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The most ominous transformation in American life since our nation’s inception
by : fff Thursday July 21, 2005 - 20:23 5 comments
The most ominous transformation in American life since our nation’s inception Editor’s comment. In my opinion, one should be damn afraid of the miltarization happenning around us. I’ve recently come across direct personal experience of a miltary matter that raises serious concern for us. I’m looking in to it. If my suspicions are correct we are in deep shit, correction, as we are already in deep, let me use the word plunging into the deepest shit. — Thursday, July 21, 2005 Hornberger’s Commentary The government’s arguments at Court of Appeals hearing in the Jose Padilla case confirm the extreme dangers that we here at FFF have been warning about for the past three years. The government lawyers told the 3-judge panel that the entire United States is part of the worldwide battleground in the government’s “war on terrorism,” entitling U.S. military forces to seize any American (or foreigner) anywhere in the United States and treat him as an “unlawful combatant.” Now, combine that with the recent D.C. Court of Appeals decision (Note: pdf) (in which new Supreme Court nominee John Roberts ruled in favor of the government), where a 3-judge panel unanimously (1) upheld the government’s “unlawful combatant” denomination; and (2) held that the protections of the Geneva Convention don’t apply to suspected terrorists; and (3) upheld the government’s power to punish suspected terrorists through the use of military commissions (despite the fact that their kangaroo Soviet-like procedures bear no resemblance whatsoever to trials under the U.S. Constitution in U.S. district court). What does all this add up to? As we’ve been saying ever since Padilla was arrested, a ruling in favor of the government in the Padilla case would mean: The U.S. military, which claims to be subservient to the American citizenry, would now have the power to seize any American, lock him away incommunicado, ship him to Gitmo or Uzbekistan or Egypt, torture, rape, sexually abuse him, or murder him, or execute him after a kangaroo military proceeding whose only purpose will be to cloak the murder with the trappings of judicial proceedings. And without any fear of federal court interference or application of the U.S. Constitution. As we have been repeatedly stating, such power, if ultimately upheld by the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in the Padilla case or by the U.S. Supreme Court when the Padilla case gets there, would constitute the most ominous transformation in American life since our nation’s inception, [Snip] The future of freedom foundation http://www.fff.org/blog/index.asp CCNWON http://www.livejournal.com/users/mp...
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Friday July 22 - 03:49 - Posted by 752c9a12e276f2cb...
Apparently, the new saying is "All your rights are belong to us."
Friday July 22 - 12:07 - Posted by 6719107fb27b4d2e...
Putting it another way: 1984 is arriving 21 years late.
Friday July 22 - 21:27 - Posted by 4eb570d4c488caf2...
i sure would hate to be a terrorist these days. it sounds to me like they could arrest you and haul you away.
Sunday July 24 - 06:23 - Posted by 9e976687ed4ce970...
The whole point is that you DON"T HAVE TO BE A TERRORIST to get arrested or hauled away. Or, as in the case in Britain, you don’t have to be a terrorist to have five shots pumped into you while you’re pinned to the ground. But this is the New World Order we have been promised. It doesn’t matter that most "terrorist" atrocities since and including 9/11 have a stink of doubt enveloping them as to who really did it. We should just shut up and obey our leaders. Sound familiar ? Isn’t that what Russia was all about ? Well, this freedom we enjoy in the West also carries with it the responsibility to question our leaders when they seek to limit our freedom "to protect us from terrorists who hate our freedom." If terrorists hate our freedom and our leaders want to limit our freedom , then who’s the real terrorists?
Thursday July 28 - 08:31 - Posted by c05fdec049d7e466...
"Isn’t that what Russia was all about ?"
That’s what they "said" Russia was all about.