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Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids

by : Eyewitnesses in Utah
Tuesday August 23, 2005 - 01:20
24 comments

by Sean Liddell

The Military is used to shut down a rave. The military is used on US soil. Anyone else have a problem with that? This is crossing the line into full on fascism- hired thugs that will go anywhere, brutalize anyone, even teenagers, no questions asked. Demand the mainstream media show this footage.

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These are first-hand accounts as posted at www.DemocraticUnderground.com

I was standing behind the second stage watching a friend of mine play records. Everyone on the dance floor was talking or dancing to my friend’s Reggae / Ragga music he was playing. Everyone appeared to be having a good time.

Up on the hill I noticed some cars that had been stopped for some time and on top of one of the bigger cars I saw what looked like ambulance lights. I commented to my friend standing next to me that the vehicle over there looked like an ambulance. He jokingly said that it was a paddy wagon.

Ironically, he was right. That was a paddy wagon from the Utah National Guard. After a little while I saw flashlights coming toward us. I leaned over to my friend at my right and mentioned how I think the cops are here. I was pretty wrong since no longer than thirty seconds had passed when we had assault rifles pointed at us. I was standing there behind the DJ booth with my hands in my pockets when they started yelling at us. They told me to take my hands out of my pockets, which I did. Then they told me to just put my hands on my head. I did that. They told my DJ friend that he needed to shut the music off. After they had said that they turned around and started yelling at us again. They said that it was an Illegal party and that we needed to fill our car with people and go. Their rifles were still pointed at us. They asked us if this was our equipment at the booth, to which we replied no. They told us that they knew we had been drinking and if we were too drunk to drive to stay there. Then another armed officer told us that we needed to leave now.

We walked back to our car and saw groups of people being harassed and being told to leave. We kept walking to the car. I counted about 9 police trucks, an ambulance and a paddy wagon on our way out the gate.

This is my account of what happened. I heard a lot more happened to other people. I feel lucky to be one of those who didn’t go to jail. Didn’t have police dogs sent after them, and most of all, I’m glad I didn’t get tasered.

- Sean Liddell.


Last night at 10:00 PM I arrived at a party in the Spanish Fork canyon. I was excited to be there to listen to the great electronic artists that had traveled for to play for the crowd.

Before coming to the event I researched it extensively. The party was %100 percent legal and legit with all permits and necessary security required by law being acquired. The event was well organized, with garbage cans, porta potties, and rope lines blocking off parts of the area that you could no go into.

Now I want you to know that many people out there consider ravers a bunch of drug taking freaks. I also want you to know that that is a stereotype that is passed down through legions of undereducated parents, politicians, and media. There are many of us who are drug free party goers who attend these events for a pure love of the music.

So on to my point. At around 11:00 I was enjoying the good vibes and great music. Then at about 11:30 pm a helicopter began circling the party. Out of nowhere huge semis filled with national guard, swat, and the police rolled up. Soldiers came out of the bushes and rushed down to the party. Carrying M-16s, Ak-47s, nightsticks, and tazers. They proceeded to attack random people and push their might around on people who had done nothing wrong.

I saw about 7 people attacked (before being forced to leave). I saw two of them right in front of me. One was a guy who was walking around with a camcorder stunned at what was happening. A soldier told him to give him the camera now. The raver said no it is my camera. The soldier then proceeded to grab the camera, throw it to the ground and then began beating the kid. In the end they threw him to the ground violently an put their knee into his back while handcuffing him. All for wanting to keep his property. When I last saw him he was knocked out and unmoving.

Another girl next to me said to one of the soldiers that she didn’t know how to get home as they had just arrested her friend. The soldier told her to walk home. My friend tried to grab her to bring her with us, but the soldier began yelling that she had touched him (which she hadn’t). WIthin seconds, five soldiers had jumped on her and were literally beating the crap out of this innocent women. She was punched in the face, thrown to the ground, and kicked while down. All for worrying how to get home safely. She is now suing.

The soldiers proceeded to attack anyone with cameras or camcorders, obviously wanting to restrict the film that got out about it. This was not a legal attack, it was a blatant violation on our rights as American citizens. And the swat, police, politicians who authorized this, and the national guard knew this. That is why they were removing potential evidence.

We were treated as terrorists, innocent kids without weapons or even violent thoughts in their minds were manhandled, treated like terrorists, and forced to stop doing what we were by constitutional rights allowed to be doing. Our rights were completely removed from us. It was if we had visited the 1960s or communist China.

- Rodan


My name is Colby and this is my account of what happened at versus. In a large clearing a mile or so up Diamond Fork Canyon near Spanish Fork, Utah, there was an outdoor electronic music show. At approximately 11:30 PM, a helicopter with a spotlight made its first pass over the main stage. It came back and hovered over the confused crowd, as National Guardsmen in full camoflauge, helmets, boots, gas masks, and armed with assault rifles and dogs swarmed into the crowd. They first made their way onto the stage, grabbing people and forcing them onto the ground to handcuff them.

I saw at least two people being beaten on the ground while barking, snarling dogs are held just a few feet from them. Weapons were being pointed at unarmed, peaceful civilians. A friend of mine was forced at gunpoint to put his hands on his head and turn around, because he asked if he could get his things from the tent. Tents were ripped open indiscriminately, and all belongings and bags were recklessly searched. I’ve heard accounts of people taking pictures, and when they refused to hand over the camera to the authorities, beaten or tasered. One sheriff said that "many people at the party had guns" and that there were "children in danger".

The only guns I saw were the rifles held by soldiers, and the only children in danger were the people being wrongfully attacked by them. They say they shut it down because of drugs. Raves are not the only musical gatherings where drugs are used and distributed. The fact is that it was a premeditated strike, more likely motivated by a vendetta against raves stemming from Sequence Five (a previous outdoor party that the police did not have the manpower to shut down) than actually enforcing drug laws.


The Following is an Account of the Actions of the Night of August 20th 2005.

I arrived at the location for an outdoor electronic music event, at around 9:25 p.m. The First thing I noticed was the structure, and the layout of the site was very well organized. Markers were placed to prevent people from wandering off the designated paths. Wastebaskets and Trash recepticles were numerous. I was assured that the promoters had obtained 100% Legal Access to the land. All in all I was looking forward to a fun night with my friends, listening to music. I consider it like any other event ive gone to (Rock Concerts, Rap Concerts, etc.) The mood was festive, people were dancing and I could even smell the meat cooking from a grill.

At Around 11:39 p.m. I noticed a bright light in the sky to the North East, which I quickly realized was a Helicopter Search light, and I saw it circling over head. I assumed that the Helicopter was only there to scout us, make sure we weren’t doing anything wrong, so I quickly dismissed it. However, it made 2 more passes and got substantially lower to the ground each time. At this time I heard a Woman next to me say "The Police Are Here, Everyone Has to Leave" Lots of people were disappointed, but noone was: rioting, fighting, or being insubordinate. People merely began to file towards their cars.

At this time I actually got a look at my surroundings. Dozens of Men in Full Camo, Kevlar Vests, Gas Masks MP5 Navy’s AUG’s and many other fire-arms. Attack Dogs, were barking somewhere ahead of me. Suddenly I saw the sight that disgusted me. A person whom I had met before was on the ground face first, 4 Reservists had their guns pointed to his head, and were handcuffing him. Their attack dog was mauling his: Shoulder, Neck and Torso areas. I was quickly shuffled along but was very disgusted. I had attempted to record the man on the ground with my Camera-Phone, but a soldier approached me and took my phone and said "move Along" I still have not recovered it.

I also was witness to the blunt beatings using shoulder rests of weapons. My friend Katie Mercer was hit in the side of the head with an MP5 because a soldier took her camera, and she was trying to recover it from him. I was witness to numerous people being held at gunpoint, people being handcuffed, Attack Dogs, Guns, Malice, Hatred.

This blatant over-use of force is not only un-moral, it is also ILLEGAL. At no time during the night did I see any person with:
-Firearms
-Knives
-Fireworks
-Drugs

While it may be true that some individuals choose to take drugs at said events like this, Myself as well as many others choose to go for the music. Just like anything, you have bad apples, but you shouldn’t cut down the tree.


Last night was one of the worst nights of my life. I am still incredibly shaken up by what happened ....enough to the point of where I’m still having problems talking about it. So i will tell you my side in a few words then link you to a more detailed version of how Knick explains it .

I was playing in Salt Lake City about 1 hour away at a massive outdoor event. 700 presold tickets, and by 11:20, there were 1400 kids there already.... all in all total expected... 3 - 4k. This was an all drum and bass event, held on private land, with an amazing view of the mountains surrounding us. This event was fully contracted with the city. They had all permits, a huge insurance policy and they were paying taxes. you have to know this is because of what happened next. And in NO MEANS is this story exaggerated. word for word this is what happened.

It was 1145... i had 30 min before my set, so i was running around lookin at the mountains and the people dancing, laughing , the crazy visiuls they even had prjecting on the mountains. i will share photos once i can see them. All of the sudden a helicopter comes in with massive spot lights .. all on the people circling everyone ... and within minutes like out of some fuckin movie , soldiers with guns (fucking rifles )come in out of the grass, like some vietnam shit. The police in full riot gear come in, big trucks ... next thing you know they are throwing tear gas at people, setting dogs on people, arresting kids. 4 big guys on one dnb fan kicking him down tieing his hands .... making kids sit in the dirt with their hands tied all in a line, now you must remember in this whole time NO ONE was resisting arrest or making a big deal, everyone peaceful started to walk out... but yet they were throwin tear gas... it gets worst ... but whats even more fucked up is hundreds of kids on drugs driving home on the freeway while they were just in major trauma.

i still cant even figure out what the hell happened, the promoter called me to make sure me knick and spor were ok and i broke down crying.. couldnt breath, i was freaking out ..... why? Is this what our fuckin country has come to .... a point of someone making a fully legal show and STILL getting busted for WHAT?????? What did 3000 kids on private land in the mountains near NOTHIING .. do to ANYONE?

The promoters have a massive lawsuit and they have so much evidence against the county that its not even funny, I will be present to testify against these fuckin pigs. And if you think this matter is a joke then all i have to say is . I didnt belive it until i had gas thrown at me. I am going to make sure i keep you all posted on this, and let you know if theres a way any of you can help.

-DJ SYZE


Alisha’s account

This is my account of events that unfolded while attending an outdoor electronic music event. I arrived shortly before 9 pm sharp. My two friends and i set up camp and headed to the stage. All was well and peaceful enjoying the music to the full extent while dancing.

Around 11:30pm or so i noticed a helicopter flying above the main stage of the event. At this point i am confused. The chopper began to come in closer to the stage with a search light focused on the crowd. I got nervous and still very confused and walked over to find my two friends I had arrived with earlier. Just as soon as i did that I looked over at my friend and asked "whats going on". That is when I was greeted by a man in full army attire, gas mask and all. He said to leave. I said what whats going on, at which point i was brutally attacked.

Thrown to the ground and in the scuffle punched in the face by swat. That was not it either. I suppose i posed some a threat as another swat member rushed over to subdue me to the ground puting his knee in my back and arresting me. At that point I am screaming to a patron "whats going on?" He is just as confused as I am. At that point another swat member came over and kicked me in the leg. Let me tell you that I also only weigh 130 pounds.

I had three grown men attack and beat me and throw me to ground for absolutely no reason at all. Not to mention being dragged to a van and violently being tossed in and taken to jail. Fined for resisting arrest and another outrageous charge. I do need to mention also that while this is all happening to me at the same time my two friends, a boy and girl were trying to reach out and stop them, at that point they were attacked and arrested as well.

That is my account. I have all the bruises to show. Our basic human rights were violated in a very bad way. We have to tell our story. Do all that you can and dont be afraid to speak up.


Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on them to promote in local shops.

So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just seemed too good to be true really. Well...

At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with. I wasn’t far off.

The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the fuck out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky.

No one resisted. That’s for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides. As they were cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop, peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.

Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth..

- One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.

- The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That’s not all though. Out of 1,500 people, there’s sure to be more footage.

- The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you don’t" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the fuck out of here right now."

Now.. let’s get the facts straight here.

This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession.

Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That’s right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own property!!!

Don’t get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation of our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so they made it happen. Even though everything about this event was legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did everything they had to to make it legit, only to have it taken away from them by a group of radical neo-con’s with an agenda.

This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person. I can’t even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that really necessary?

This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least in our music scene (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us at any time. When we’re losing the right to gather peacefully, we’re also letting the police set a standard of what we can get away with. And I think that’s BULLSHIT!

The system fucked up last night... They broke up a party that was 100% legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there at the same time. The promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their lawyers and the ACLU is already involved.

I’m sure some pictures (and hopefully some video) will surface soon. I’ll make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can see the Police State of America at work.

-Knick from Evol Intent

 http://www.democraticunderground.co...

here’s a local newspaper’s tame version of events
 http://www.harktheherald.com/module...



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> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Tuesday August 23 - 03:57 - Posted by 0b392046d4e390fd...

Kent & Jackson State come to mind (1970). At least no one is dead, but it’s interesting that this and Idaho are the two states George our President has chosen to vacate his vacation to go to defend the indefensible, his unnecessry foreign war in Iraq. Can we expect to see the National Guard of Idaho out in force tomorrow? Oh, if he had only taken these speeches out the gate and tested them out on Cindy Sheehan first! But thinking for himself is not what has gotten our Peerless Leader where he is today/ Thank God it’s a mess!
George Hayman
Ripoff Society




> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Tuesday August 23 - 05:23 - Posted by ea113a5d60cca9ed...

Excuse me but I am an old hippy who protested the Vietnam war and lived in Hate Ashberry and I think this is funny because its like you just woke up and saw reality. I hate cops and the national guard because of what I saw back then and here it is again because we the people dont learn the lesson. I wish we would have had the revolution after they killed 4 people at Kent State. But we didnt and now we are paying for it with the most corrupt government leaders in history. We were warned and you were warned if you managed to read the signs from history. We must rebel and subdue the industrial military corporations who get rich from war and who contribute to the RNC and the DNC. You young people dont stand a chance and I have pity for you in that your future is doomed to having no gas and no truth but instead a bad dream become reality. Me? I am moving out of the USA before they declare martial law. Good luck! see ya




> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Tuesday August 23 - 07:35 - Posted by 27137ac02089d7f2...

You can always tell when a Republican occupies the white house, they are violent and use the military at their whim. When did out country include the right for a military dictatorship? Because that is what we have. When Bush says he wants to set up a "democracy" for other countries just like ours, I fear for those people he focuses on knowing they are in the cross hairs of fascism.



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Tuesday August 23 - 23:35 - Posted by 1e71f3ae0bee0a47...

You’re obviously clueless, Kennedy was a democrat and got us involved in Vietnam and Roosevelt was a democrat that didn’t turn the other cheek when the japs bombed pearl harbor and got us into ww2.



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Wednesday August 24 - 02:28 - Posted by 7d648ff37fdbd36c...

The government is getting practice in for the police state that is coming. Hitler burned the Rokstiege and blamed it on the communist. then he passed legislation to strip the Germans of there civil rights. Sound familiar ? Bush orchestrated 9-11 then he passed the Patriot Act to strip Americans of there civil rights. Bush is the next Hitler. the Global elite want a facist country for us. Fema allready has military prisions set up through out the country. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO WAKE UP!!!!!



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Thursday August 25 - 08:47 - Posted by 180dd1d76817425c...

oh yes you are so right we live in a police state we have no democracy. Democracy that is a sham. every president since Andrew Jackson has been appointed by the global elite. go to www.infowars.com to learn more. This gov. is not worried about the Mexican border because they don’t want to stop there drug cartel it’s too profitable. And why would they want a tighter border when they can bring in a CIA Alqueda terrorist to transport a nuck bomb into this country to give these neo natzis a excuse into attacking Iran. Just like they staged 9-11 to give them the excuse for Iraq and the creation of a police state.



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Monday September 12 - 19:11 - Posted by dc53d8776bc2becb...

well, without getting into a stupid debate about alleged conspiracies (because i can already tell that the emphasis is gonna quickly switch to that), the fact remains: YOU DO NOT NEED MILITARY TO DEAL WITH A BUNCH OF 16 YEAR OLD RAVERS. period end dot. The people who condone this are the same people that are OK with policemen that held guns to high school kids in a drug sweep in school WHICH FOUND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

wake up, people. regardless of conspiracy theories or whatever, this is no longer the America your parents dreamt of handing down to you.



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Wednesday August 24 - 07:49 - Posted by 27137ac02089d7f2...

And you are obviously a dumb ass because it was Eisenhower that got us involved in Vietnam and he was a Republican....but you Republicans always blame your mistakes on everyone else, like the liar Bush trying to pin his Pearl Harbor 9/11 on Clinton.



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Wednesday August 24 - 09:54 - Posted by 27137ac02089d7f2...

You must have lost your mind! Republican!!!



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Wednesday August 24 - 15:15 - Posted by ca0d7b15daaf2763...

Wondering what happened to freedom and democracy in America?

Bush exported it all to the middle east in exchange for gas and oil.



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Wednesday August 24 - 22:24 - Posted by 36d5fd411316ffb4...

From An Interested Observer

No, you’re obviously clueless ... acting like VN happened in a second in a vacuum. The USG had already spent over a billion 1950s dollars "nation building" in Vietnam, such comely attractions as interrogation/torture centers where over 50,000 dissenters from empire disappeared into. Kennedy committed military advisors and a mere 11,000 US troops. The Tonkin Gulf LIE- used as the excuse for the Vietnam War - August 1964 - is when the escalation began. Kennedy had been dead and buried for a year by then.



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Tuesday August 23 - 23:52 - Posted by 61655884e7e968bb...

Heres a link to a video of the rave.

http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/.P...




> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Thursday August 25 - 04:47 - Posted by 27137ac02089d7f2...

Thank you for the video, which gives a clear view what Democracy means in America. I will publish it to major station and newspapers around the world.
Everybody should see this American shame! Believe me Americans it will be in the news!



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Wednesday August 24 - 00:38 - Posted by 6a3f0eb947ece4d7...

Isn’t it comforting to know that we have military personnel available to attack, beat up and arrest teenage ravers? When it comes to protecting our wide open borders, the military is not available, guess they must be too busy beating up the ravers. Seem’s like someone has their priorities all wrong.




> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Wednesday August 24 - 00:45 - Posted by 9d44710fb9c10713...

Thank God nobody got killed like at Waco.




> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Wednesday August 24 - 09:54 - Posted by 27137ac02089d7f2...

Americans have no citizen rights. We all knew it for a long time.

How stupid you are Americans. You let your police and the national guard abuse you? Come on what kind of democracy do you have.
We the civilized nation do not want "your democracy". But you may enforce it in Great Britain.

Sieg Heil!!!




> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Thursday August 25 - 05:46 - Posted by 21d750fe93f2612e...

About 60 people were arrested Saturday night when police officers busted an illegal rave in Spanish Fork Canyon.
Those arrested were cited on a variety of charges including the possession of illegal narcotics, weapons violations, DUI, illegal consumption of alcohol by a minor, disorderly conduct, assaulting a police officer and drug distribution.
The youngest of those cited was 15 years old, said Utah County Sheriff’s Sgt. Dan Gilbert.
Police in Utah County have monitored several raves this summer and have grown increasingly concerned about their legality and
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When detectives got word that another party was planned for Saturday, they set to work to make sure they got their point across that such activity was not welcome in their area.

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2961967

learn to read you idiot hippies. Your willing to complain about people preventing a 15 year old girl from overdosing on E ?

They raided the party becuase not only was it illeagle, but the security personell - the people who are there to PROTECT you were DEALING DRUGS. There is nothing wrong with SWAT taking down an organised drug taking party because thats what this was

quit your bitching and go back to smoking weed you fucking useless members of society.




> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Saturday August 27 - 05:50 - Posted by e673df7d95142305...

Accusations like ’useless members of society’ being handed out to people mealy because they attend electronic music events is typical of the ignorance young people are facing these days.
Lets see, a few so called disorderly people were arrested. The only disorderly behaviour I saw was the national guard beating young party goers.
A 15 year old was prevented from overdosing on E. Thats a good one, because all people that take ’E’ overdose dont they, surely thats why people take it asshole. A couple of under age people are bound to sneak into any event so I dont see armed soldiers finding one 15 year old to be a major disaster averted.
Drug use is an incredibly wide spread at all youth events, not just electronic. So you can either practice harm minimisation and education to stop people overdosing, or you can raid all youth events and arrest people further isolating young people.

Im glad I live in Australia where the last 3000+ person event I went to had police at it. But they were hired for the event as security and spent the whole night standing around being bored (one was bopping to the beat a little though). All police and security guards ive spoken to at EMF’s report its one of the better gigs as for large crowds theres seldom any violence. I know ive never seen any.



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Saturday August 27 - 06:02 - Posted by e673df7d95142305...

"Useless members of society" mearly because people attend an electronic music event is just the kind of ignorant shit that young people have to deal with today. So some arrests were made, there was disorderly conduct? The only disorderly conduct I saw was the National Guard beating up young party goers.
A 15 year old was prevented from overdosing on E. Of course because everyone that takes ’E’ overdoses, surely thats why people take it genius. At any large music event your bound to get a few underage people sneaking in, so if armed soldiers managed to find a 15 year old I dont think they have averted any major disaster.
Drug use and sale is wide spread at all music events, not just electronic. So you can either practice education and harm minimisation to prevent overdosing or you can raid events, shut them down and arrest everyone creating further resentment and alienation among young people.

Im glad I live in Australia where the last 3000+ people event I went to had cops, but they were hired for security and spent the whole night standing around looking bored (one was bopping to the beat though). All the police and guards ive spoken to at EMF’s have said its one of the better gigs, as for large crowds theres seldom any violence. I sure have never seen any.



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Friday August 26 - 01:17 - Posted by efb699d91a9f0360...

There is a movie now on DVD that came out a few years ago. It was about German teens under Nazi rule, who really liked American "Swing" music. The Fascist raided clubs where these kids were dancing and playing the "prohibited" music. I could not help but think of that movie "Swing Kids" as I have been reading and viewing the events in Utah for the past few days.

Thugs and police beating, intimidating and arresting kids for wanting to peacefully assemble to enjoy a concert. And that was the movie! Now I am watching it happen here.

I am 56 years old and have teens of my own. I remember Kent State and all the other incidences involving the goverment payrolled thugs who harrassed young people. Only now, it is a thousand times worse.

People talk of a "police state" coming to America. "Coming"...? It is here!




> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Friday August 26 - 16:54 - Posted by 37cc7818cd8ba9a3...

Unfortunate? Yes over excessive amount of fource? Possibly. However, America is about the closest you can get to perfect and fair. Nothing is perfect and you will always have people complaining about something.



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Saturday August 27 - 18:48 - Posted by ee68143fdf370563...

You hate freedom. You probably have wet-dreams about George Bush. You’re a fascist boot-licker. Get out of my country you fascist!



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Sunday August 28 - 09:20 - Posted by 587dd50408db0603...

Close to perfect? That is hilarious, unless you are a Nazi, then close to perfect just fits....perfect Nazis in a perfectly disgusting area, Utah is the asshole of the country, it shits Mormons or Morons (pretty much the same thing) all over everyone including other Mor(m)ons. Notice how close the two spellings and meanings are? The "church" decided a few years ago that they didn’t want anyone calling them Mormons (too close to Morons) so they have asked all to refer to them as LDS or Latter Day Saints.....yeah, all of those lunatics think they are saints, they swill down the booze behind closed doors, gossip and conive, molest their children, disrespect their women, and proclaim to the world that they are saints.



> Military used on US soil! to shut down Utah Rave- attack innocent civilians, photographers, kids
Saturday March 4 - 01:06 - Posted by c1155936025d003c...

To all you wimpey assed whiners, The Utah National Guard was never with the Utah County and Utah State law enforcement at this rave. You are all just looking at the uniforms and weapons an assuming that they were. I think all of you who have written your so called accounts have read the ones above and are trying to make up a better story. Law Enforcement was totally correct in the way everything was handled that night. The promoters did not have the proper permits and the event was being monitored early in the evening prior to SWAT comming in. The only attacks to the party goers were to the ones that were non-compliant to the orders of law enforcement.

The only thing else to say is that you people need to go back to school because your spelling sucks.






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