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The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose

by : Ernesto Cienfuegos
Wednesday September 14, 2005 - 21:13
86 comments

Los Angeles, Alta California - September 7, 2005 - (ACN) There were numerous incidents that occurred during and immediately after Katrina struck that point to the "unthinkable". It now appears that a sophisticated plan was implemented that utilized the "cover of a hurricane" to first destroy and than take over the City of New Orleans?

As the world watched the events unfolding, one could not help think that something was terribly afoot concerning the rescue by FEMA of the city’s poor and predominate Black population. It seems that a well laid out plan was put into effect to grab valuable real estate from well established but poverty stricken Black families of New Orleans? What is being implemented now is nothing less than a sophisticated scheme to purge and ethnically cleanse what Whites have termed "Black and ’welfare bloated’ New Orleans".

Among the most telling anomalies pointing to something terribly afoot is the gun battle, killing 5, that occurred at the breached levee between the New Orleans Police Department and, what have now been identified as US military agents. An Associated Press report, which has now disappeared, stated that at least five USA Defense Department personnel where shot dead by New Orleans police officers in the proximity of the breached levee. (Please Note: The original media reports concerning the shootout are now being changed or "cleansed" in a cover-up. We found one original report at http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlate... ...
La Voz de Aztlan has a mirror page of this report at http://www.aztlan.net/police_kill_f... in case this report gets changed or deleted as well)

A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said later that those killed were "federal contractors" on their way to "repair" a canal. The "contractors" were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain, in an operation to "fix" the 17th Street Canal, according to the Army Corps of Engineers spokesman. Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley of New Orleans later reported that his policemen had shot at eight suspicious people near the breached levee, killing five or six.

Who were these "military agents" that were killed by the police near the 17th Street Canal breached levee and what were they doing there? Why did the New Orleans police find it necessary to shoot and kill 5 or 6 of them? No one is saying anything and it appears that the news story has now been swept under the rug. Were these US Department of Defense personnel a Special Forces group or Navy Seals with top secret orders to sabotaged the levee? There are verifiable reports that at least 100 New Orleans police officers have disappeared from the face of the earth and that two have committed suicide. Could these be policemen that died defending the levee against sabotage by "federal contractors"?

Another telling incident that points to a "nefarious plan" is what New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said at the height of the crisis. He said publicly, "I fear the CIA may take me out!" Mayor Nagin, a Black, said this twice. He told a reporter for the Associated Press: "If the CIA slips me something and next week you don’t see me, you’ll all know what happened." Later he told interviewers for CNN on a live broadcast that he feared the "CIA might take me out." What does Mayor Ray Nagin know and why does he fear the CIA?

In an interview by WWL TV, Mayor Nagin complained vociferously that Louisiana National Guard Blackhawk helicopters were being stopped from dropping sandbags to plug the levee soon after it breached. There is evidence that no repairs were allowed on the levee until after New Orleans was totally flooded!

Many civilian groups who were attempting to aid people trapped in their attics, on their roofs and at the Superdome are reporting that FEMA, other federal agents and the US military essentially "stopped" them from doing so. Convoys that were organized by truckers and carrying "food and water" were blocked by agents of the federal government on the highways and roads leading to New Orleans. The American Red Cross, in addition, encountered numerous incidents and has made formal complaints.

A private ham radio network that deployed throughout the hurricane ravished region reported that the airwaves were being "jammed" making it impossible to communicate emergency information. Churches, hospitals and other essential community groups reported that the first thing that the US military did, when they arrived, was to cut their telephone lines and confiscate communications devices. We all witnessed news reports and heard statements by flood victims concerning the behavior of the US military. Many Black families complained that military vehicles did not stop to assist them but just drove by. One news report showed military personnel playing cards inside a barrack while Black citizens were dying of thirst and hunger.

Today, it is very revealing how the federal government is handling the disaster. They want every Black out of New Orleans and those who insist on staying in their homes will be removed by force. The government, through some media, is utilizing scare tactics to cleanse New Orleans of all Blacks. They want no witnesses and this will make the "land grab" a lot easier to undertake. One scare tactic is calling the flood water "a horrid toxic soup of feces a rotting flesh of corpses". The military thugs are now getting tough with Black families that have owned their old but beloved homes for many generations. Mr. Rufus Johnson, a family patriarch who lives in the French Quarter, said in an interview, "The army has given me an ultimatum to leave or suffer the consequences of a forced eviction. I do not understand . My entire family and I survived Katrina and now they want to throw me out of the home we have had for generations". Mr. Johnson lives in a neighborhood where the flood has subsided and his home is not heavily damaged yet FEMA wants him out!

The fact that Vice President Dick Cheney is heavily involved in the FEMA operations from behind the scenes is very troublesome. Cheney and his cronies at Halliburton are in line for the lucrative contracts to "reconstruct a New Orleans". Deals are already being made with a Las Vegas business group to construct multi-million dollar casinos in the Big Easy on prime real estate that was owned by Black families. Whites throughout history have been notorious "land grabbers". In the USA they first confiscated land that belonged to American Indians. Most of the Indians ended up in worthless tracts of land called "reservations". The largest "land grab", however, was the theft of Aztlan. This occurred soon after the Mexican-American War. In Alta California , vast "Ranchos" were stolen from the Californios through a variety of scams. A favorite ploy was to impose extremely heavy land taxes on the Mexicans and then foreclosing on the properties. The land was then given or sold at very low prices to the Forty Niners who came in large hordes to Alta California during the so called "Gold Rush" of 1849.

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COVERUP: The dynamiting of the New Orleans levee system

by
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan

Los Angeles, Alta California - September 11, 2005 - (ACN) New evidence is surfacing concerning the sabotaging of the New Orleans levee system that resulted in the flooding of primarily Black neighborhoods. A significant number of New Orleans residents have come forward to say that the levees were breached on purpose by the authorities.

Also, this publication has located the original Associated Press article that reported on a gun battle between the New Orleans Police Department and US military contractors near the vicinity of the breached levee along the 17th Street Canal. The original report states that New Orleans police shot and killed 5 armed US military contractors in a gun battle. The original AP report was confirmed by a US Army Corps of Engineers spokesman. The AP story has now been deleted on pretty much all news websites and a different version substituted. Our publication was forwarded a link to the original report by one of our subscribers after reading our article, "The Great New Orleans Land Grab" This article argues that the gun battle was an attempt by the New Orleans police to stop further sabotaging of the levee system by US military saboteurs under high level secret orders. We have also provided a mirror link to the original AP report on our server in case the forwarded link gets deleted or the report is changed. The original AP report is at http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlate... Our mirror link to the report is at http://www.aztlan.net/police_kill_f...

Our article, "The Great New Orleans Land Grab" proposes that the sabotaging of the levee system had already been planned. They were just waiting for the right hurricane to implement it. Katrina provided just the right cover. The ultimate purpose is to rid New Orleans of poor Black folks and take their valuable land away. We are already seeing the plan take fruition. Banks and mortgage companies are now foreclosing on homes and properties because poor Black in diaspora are unable to make mortgage payments. Also, Black families in New Orleans who owned their homes outright could not afford damage insurance and do not have the money to rebuild. Most likely, their properties would be taken away for failure to pay property taxes. Developers, and contractors stand to make a lot of money in the new New Orleans. Vultures are already hovering over the devastated city. Dick Cheney was recently in town to survey the possibilities for Halliburton and deals are being made with a Las Vegas group to build multi-million casinos in the Big Easy.

Many of the Black families in diaspora already suspect the worse. Resident Andrea Garland, now re-located to Texas, said, " I also heard that part of the reason our house flooded is that they dynamited part of the levee system after the first section broke - they did this to prevent Uptown (the rich White part of town) from being flooded. Apparently they used too much dynamite, thus flooding part of the Bywater. So now I know who is responsible for flooding my house - not Katrina, but our government." There are also claims by intelligence expert Tom Heneghen that 25 earwitnesses heard explosions immediately before the levees broke. The Washington Post, in addition, interviewed John Mullen III, an African American retired schoolteacher now staying at the Houston Superdome. John Mullen III lived in the Lower Ninth Ward, an all Black neighborhood. John Mullen told the Washington Post that he believes that the levee breaks had somehow been engineered to keep the wealthy French Quarter and Garden District dry at the expense of poor Black neighborhoods like the Lower Ninth Ward — a suspicion the Washington Post has heard from many other Black survivors.

http://www.aztlan.net/new_orleans_l...



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> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 05:03 - Posted by fe33461be893753b...

There are much easier ways to get other peoples land than flooding it and less costly. What makes land that is below sea level so valuable. New Orelans was a disater in waiting. What if Katrina never came along, the bad guys had every thing in place for 40 years waiting for a super storm. I guess they used the left over explosives to demolish Biloxi, Gulfport and all the other towns ravaged by Katrina. You conspiracy people are the ones that scare me.
The internet has made it much easier to spread BS rapidly. By the time FEMA gets through passing out the cash the poor people of New Orleans will probably wind up with more money than they ever had.
There has been more than one AP wire story that was totally bogus.
One more thought, the gobal conquest conspriacy that will enslave all Americans so the rich can get get richer. Does any of the conspriacy world conquest crowd understand how the rich and powerful got that way. Here’s a clue, because they provide goods or services that millions are willing to pay for. Car, gas, bank loans credit cards, etc. Now if the masses suddenly become slaves and work for nothing where is the money going to come from to purchase all the things that made the super rich. How much money would Britnay Spears have if there was no money to buy her CDs. How much money would Citi Bank have if no one had any money to repay the loans.
I’m retired and a long way from being rich but I survived becase some one with money financed the company I retired from.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 06:26 - Posted by 7a148d1d6a14e189...

"There are much easier ways to get other peoples land than flooding it and less costly"-EC

REallly? WEll, say if you had been planning to rid the New Orleans coast of as one congessman put it "god did what we couldn’t do for the public housing problem in NO" and wanted a "clean slate" without the mostly poor black neighborhoods taking up valuable space what would you do?

It’s no secret now mafia type gambling and hotel interests and their bankers are going to decend on the poor black’s neigborhoods like flies on ....honey. Weather modification is real and now openly discussed. Plenty of witnesses testify they heard explosions as the levees broke.

Face it. Perhaps this was another terrorist attack by the same forces that have profited from the former ’attacks’. What is so hard about understanding that ’organized crime’ especially when it comes to billions of dollars and almost unchecked political power is able to manipulate even the highest recesses of government. Who profits? We’ll see.

SmT



Conspiracy Facts! Do Some Research, There’s No doubt About It!!
Friday September 16 - 06:38 - Posted by a02eded45abdb336...

It is ridiculous that you are so uninformed and therefore wrong and but your mind is made up.
If one wants to really know what is happening, check out www.cloakanddagger.de for multiple radio shows per week that "scrape the BS off the truth". Read the stories www.rense.com posts and links to. Read Jon Rappoport’s www.nomorefakenews.com site and the archives. He maintains that seven cartels run everything and he is right. (GIMMMME. Government, Intelligence, Military, Media, Medical, Money, and Energy.) www.takingaim.info for audio reports. Read David Icke’s books. The elite have clearly stated their goals and wishes. www.takingaim.info for audio reports.

It is not conspiracy theory, it is conspiracy fact. People that say they can’t see the conspiracies are asleep and brainwashed. QUIT WATCHING TELEVISION!

Ancient Chinese proverb: "There are none so blind as those who will not see".

Some people are proactively fighting against this evil ruling class and rich by spreading orgonite aka "gifting".
Gifting is a growing powerful movement. Read more about this at www.educate-yourself.org and www.warriormatrix.com



> Conspiracy Facts! Do Some Research, There’s No doubt About It!!
Saturday September 17 - 00:50 - Posted by dd9520089c52e169...

Thank you for attempting to provide proof to the ’Doubting Thomases’ of North America. Okay, folks, we’ve exhausted the propraganda about the USA being the richest, most prosperous, most wholesome country in the world! The other countries are so sick of hearing it, yet we don’t realize that to them we look like a psychotic ’problem child’ (with bombs and Weapons of Mass Destruction [WMDs that we claim only unsavoury dictatorships would use on innocent people])! The truth only seems to come out in times of crisis, that we are at the mercy of a government that doesn’t give two tosses about the people in thi country!

The only good thing about the gulf coast hurricane tragedy is that people finally came together to accomplish more than photo opportunities. This time celebrities led the way to allow these poor abandoned people to speak up. Now, if only the people of Iraq could have the same opportunity, to speak about this unnecessary occupation of their country. Do you think the results would be the same if oil was not involved!

This morning on a TV talk show, the host spoke about how poor survivors in New Orleans were herded onto a bridge and told to head out of the city by the sheriff. On the other end of the bridge, police had mounted an offensive against these people and actually opened fire on them as they tried to leave the city! This is not Beirut or Iran, but indeed the USA! It is time to expose the corruption that runs rampant by the politicians and ’elected’ officials from the president on down. Another website that could be mentioned is www.montelshow.com, which is still trying to help survivors find loved ones and a new direction in dealing with their losses.

You have mentioned the creme de la creme of informative websites. One other that should be mentioned here is www.whatreallyhappened.com.

Luther



> Conspiracy Facts! Do Some Research, There’s No doubt About It!!
Sunday September 18 - 17:58 - Posted by 33a3bbb1fb710431...

Since you are a David Icke fan, you must agree that planet earth has been taken over by alien shape shifters that take on human shape at will. Nice theory. It explains everything going on here on tiny space ship earth. Everything is corrupt because the ruling elite is out to rape, pillage and destroy all in the mad rush for profits. Bush and Clinton are alien shape shifters. Cheney and Rove are alien shape shifters. Yada, yada, yada.


"I believe in Reptillian shape shifters because I have met a few. They control all the wealth on this planet . . . " and Princess Di said, "The Royals all are reptiles." Yada, yada, yada.



David Icke Theory
Monday September 19 - 04:43 - Posted by 36381423da55f366...

I’ve read EVERY Book by David Icke.

It definitely opened my eyes to the possibility of his theories.

What other books have you seen by other authors that are similiar in beliefs?



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 07:55 - Posted by 447c38a4044d3ac6...

good article and so true, people wake up and see what’s going on!



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 09:47 - Posted by 00ee473a533b6674...

I find those who deny and condemn critics or defend the official timeline as suspicious as the MMedia, since their only purpose is to cover up, twist, deny, distract, confuse and spread deceit. Ask my father, investigative journalist in Vietnam era, followed by FBI, home confiscated by IRS...I´ve worked many, many years for very high ranking military Generals recently (90´s )overseas, I could tell you stories unrelated to NO that would leave you sputtering babble and drooling decayed teeth on your bib. Get off the internet unless you are real jack!



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 13:24 - Posted by c2b5998bddf8a46b...

Yes, in some respect there may be easier ways, but none of them assumes legal possession as clearly and quickly through the laws of "abandonment"; i.e., allowing for a taker to capture title to the soil regardless of the adverse claims by previous owner. Tally in the Kelo decision and other federal and state "taking" statutes and you have an almost impervious solution for the rebuilding of NO.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 16:37 - Posted by 921064c6ab9c07f8...

You mean you NEVER heard of rich people also get rich by thef?. Ever hear of something called BCCI or Enron? Rich eople also get rich by dealing drugs. Ever hear of the Iran-Contra affair? Rich people also get rich by selling weapons to....well to just about anybody. It’s called war profiteering.

You can’t POSSIBLY be that naive so you must be stupid or you work for the FBI/CIA. Aren’t you just so proud of yourself?



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 19:29 - Posted by 9dcfa9c0df14c92c...

I can’t help but wonder if the numbers add up, has anyone taken the time to see if all the people in shelters are indeed evacuees.
Now the Government is saying that we are going to have an Avian Flue epidemic, coincidence, "really"
and they haven’t got enough vaccines, or Tamiflue to treat it, their main concern "HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DISPOSE OF THE BODIES" of the thousand killed by it>



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 22:30 - Posted by fad6e753585a3ac8...

I try to take everything with a "grain of salt." Having said that, if you do not know about HAARP and weather manipulation here is your chance to take the "red pill." - http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n11... The U.N. was so concerned that they created an order persuading nations from using Weather Warfare against each other.

It seems to me that technology advances are wonderful when adding to our toy chest, but are so lame when it comes to our health (Western diagnosis is great, but its cures are few), environment, and our spirituality.

I am born Catholic who became and Atheist at 13, and then turned Agnostic around 35. The more I learn about life the more I realize I know very little. What I have learned the hard way is that ignorant people come in all forms. The saddest bunch is people who do not open their minds to the infinite possibilities of humans’ creativity. However, this ingenuity is not always used for good or moralistic reasons. To many elitists, “The end justifies the means.”

Get away from the TV and major news outlets and do read the works of Antony Sutton, Edward Griffin, Mantak Chia, David Morehouse, Zecharia Sitchin, Nicola Tesla, Lloyd Pye, Ayn Rand, Ludwig von Mises, Richard Daugherty (Mogambo), and Bill Bonner. This will give you just a small idea of what I am talking about. Some are very popular authors with massive credentials and some are not. If only popularity and credentials are what you’re seeking, stay watching the “boob tube” and continue reading the NY Times my friend.

The only biblical saying that I consider worth repeating is, “God helps those who help themselves.” Either get involved or not at all, but don’t damn those for trying.

Carl



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Wednesday September 21 - 06:31 - Posted by 563927894db4b59b...

The quote you gave is not from the Bible. It is attributed to Benjamin Franklin.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 23 - 02:32 - Posted by 27ba5947138b71b0...

dear carl, thank you for your informative insights.. i have a thing or two to say that you may or may not beleive, but i know them to be true. recently on "discovery times" was a show which showed me an actual "earthquake machine’ the soviets built. it wasn’t initially designed to BE an earthquake machine, but after they ran some kind of test, there was a very powerful earthquake which seismologists determined started 6700 meters below ground thats a very deep quake i think. (almost 4.5 miles down) anyway, the camera that was filming the experiment the soviets were conducting was still rolling about 30 seconds later, and the whole building shook like it was a toy boat in a hurricane! the show then went on to say that after the fall of the soviet union, they sold the machine to the american govement, and nobody knows where it is today! kind of makes you wonder just what they wanted it for, huh?, also, concerning darpa, and the haarp experiments, i used to work in a place called "climatronics" in bohemia, long island, as an electro-mechanical assembler. they made "weather monitoring systems" for various (mostly u.s ) gov’t agencies. the f.a.a., the army, navy, marines, air force, airports, ect. we shipped these systems all over the world... i only worked there a short time, thankfully, but one thing i will never forget is the "system" being tested out in the back parking lot one day..(several days actually) it looked like a big search light, and it swung back and forth on a single axis. (where this thing came from i’ll never know, i was the only qualified machinist there and i didn’t help build it!) anyway, the top was about 6 foot in diameter, flat, made out of some kind of ceramic...metal...something, and it was dark grey. it was hooked up to immense power cables, diesel cable i think they call it, and all types of computer equipment. many men in suits were hanging around tweaking, testing, reading results.., and they all looked very important, and "intelligent" if you get my drift. anyway, on a break that first day, being curious about what they were up to, i started to ask questions about what this thing was. i was told it was a new doppler radar machine. seems plausible to me, who am i to second guess these guys, they’re the engineers! (many of which i’d never seen before) but i can only say that as this "radar" swept back and forth over the sky, clouds started to form overhead, and for the next three days, it drizzled constantly! i was also sternly instructed NOT to get in it’s way, as it would cook me like a hot dog in a microwave! since that time, i have heard about darpa, and haarp projects, from my old landlord in virginia beach, and told myself the woman was waaayyy out there. only much later did i learn that she was telling the truth about these things, and that’s when i started to become scared. after looking back to that day in "climatronics" and that mysterious "system" they were building,( which left before the week was out, never to be seen again...) it finally started to dawn on me that this gov’t is up to something we should not be messing with!! i’ve always considered myself a bit of a weather buff, and understand a few things about the worlds climate systems, and the basic fundemental changes i’ve seen over the past decade are not possible without some kind of outside interference...period. global warming is a good cover story , but i think that by doing all the nuclear tests in the ’50’s and ’60’s, our country and others..and friggin’ around with ionosphere heaters, that they’ve finally pushed past this planets boiling point, and the results are the devastating storms we see today. not to mention all the other devastating things like floods, tsunamis, earthquakes, glacial fractioning.. i can only hope that the aftereffects of all these "studies" doesn’t totally kill this planet, which is what i really think has happened,(and that mother earth can heal itself if left well enough alone) and that these storms will teach people that "IT’S NOT NICE TO FOOL WITH MOTHER NATURE"!"
thanks for your time....richard delaney



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 23 - 03:30 - Posted by de08233c9845bc39...

HEY CARL, I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS, AND IT REALLY SCARED ME. IF, AND I SAY IF, THE DEVICE THEY WERE MAKING AT "CLIMATRONICS" WAS DESIGNED TO ’HEAT THE IONOSPHERE", AND IT’S 70 DEGREE SWING AT GROUND LEVEL COULD THEORTICALLY "SCAN" A THIRTY MILE WIDE AREA OF SPACE FOR A DOPPLER IMAGE, HOW BIG AN AREA OF THE WORLD COULD IT COVER IF THE FRIGGIN THING WAS 220 MILES OUT IN SPACE? I’D ASSUME IT WOULD BE THE WHOLE PLANET. ALSO, IF THIS WAS THE CASE, THE AMERICAN GOVERMENT COULD TRUTHFULLY SAY " WE HAVE NO WEAPONS IN SPACE.." BECAUSE TECHNICALLY, IT’S NOT A WEAPON.. OOOHH I COULD WRITE A BOOK. I HOPE I DON’T SOUND LIKE A DOOMSAYER, BUT I WOULDN’T PUT ANYTHING PAST THIS GOVERMENT, AND ALL THE GREEDY, RICH CRONIES. I SINCERELY HOPE I’M JUST A PARANOID WITH AN OVER ACTIVE IMAGINATION... RICH



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 23 - 08:22 - Posted by b2f96783dc593490...

If so-called conspiracy theorist exist to exploit views against the "powers that be", can it also be true that the "powers that be" would have a interest in counter propaganda to spin their opponets? Today, to be intelligent and not fall for BS, is to be an independent thinker. That’s now political incorrect. Those who oppose the so-called conspiracy theorist as merely paranoid, disallusive, or anti-government extremist are themselve’s conspirators. You don’t beleive that anyone, any-group or any government can be human and do wrong. What’s wonderful about America (if people would practice it) is the FREEDOMS we were guarantied under the Constitution. Under the constitution, while it still exist, you do have the right to dissent (believe it or not).

Name calling like leftist, liberal, conservative, those-people etc., makes it easy for those who don’t question to just dismiss the seriousness of investigating claims that may be true. Lay hold to the TRUTH! Ask questions. Investgate info. FREE THINKING IS NOW DANGEROUS TO THE POWERS THAT BE. So YOU who always what to SPIN the so-called conspiracy theorist, do so with facts. And, like wise conspiracy theorist, "Just the fact ma’am, just the facts". Please post your sources or references so we can also check them out. Many people can’t aford knowing the TRUTH because they can’t handle the responsibility that comes with it. You MUST ACT or lay down and do nothing once you know. My question of recent events is, did the powers that be laid down or acted in a timely manner for "those-people" who were suffering in New Orleans from the recent disaster? Just the facts please!!!

Al



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Sunday September 25 - 18:33 - Posted by c66807d0c70b19ff...

The only biblical saying that I consider worth repeating is, “God helps those who help themselves.” Either get involved or not at all, but don’t damn those for trying.

Sorry sir but that quote is not scriptual...altough I do understand your intent.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 23:55 - Posted by b06b20bcfab85470...

You are right. Those who finance large operations are vital, and not to be easily smeared by the wishful "have-nots".

You are also wrong. Consider and compare the morality of the Roman citizens 400 B.C. and 200 A.D. Historically, all freedom has deteriorated into luxury (the proper results of a free people), which then deteriorates into Empire, as those who can "add house unto house" (i.e., amass more wealth than they can use) become intoxicated by the process and can no longer stymie the process. This then becomes what anyone who has read a modicom of the Fall of Rome, provides the pattern which the USA seems hell-bent upon imitating.

It works to a point. Back to morality; I see in the eyes of Joe on the street how confident/guilty/hopeful/loving his morality will allow him to be. Yes, great men with great means are vital to our country. The signs are seen in the condition of the gutters.

And the great men today? Where are they?

Do not support what you do not know, and you won’t have to defame what you do. A wise man is silent in a time of evil.

peace,

ducq

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> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Saturday September 17 - 00:27 - Posted by 99953e577c80c889...

There are many, many facts that so called conspiracy theorists are basing these arguments on. Before rash judgements are made in order to protect the thin veil, I suggest doing some bloody research. It is all there... explosive particles on the levee walls, etc... just look and you will find. Don’t expect those who control the whole scene to give you the outtakes. They are making a movie and you are an extra. Get used to the fact that you are being lied to and then it becomes easier to swallow.

We are not victims! We create our own reality, whether we like it or not. So you have two choices. 1: start actively creating a positive future. OR 2: Let your victim mentality keep you from your birthright; "FREEDOM"

There are enough excuses made, and blame and judgement... it all just perpetuates the cycle.

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY and DREAM A NEW DREAM

Peace
A



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Saturday September 17 - 04:23 - Posted by a286f1b62e75232e...

You stinking bush boot lickers are all alike,

The truth is in your faces this storm was enhanced by HARRP those levees were indeed blown...

There are eye witnesses you ignorant pigs let the bush regime get away with there crimes you never question nothing your so ready to lap there worthless asses...

It wasn’t so much the lad grab as it was getting rid of the low income mainly blacks they are now in other parts of the country...

Now! for the big reason population reduction from 6 billion to about half how will they do this plague yes, bubonic plague how will it get in to the population easy look at New Orleans a waste a sewer in most cases these people lived it for a few days now, those same people area where they are every where...

This can be put in the food, water, etc. more like injections that these people got for any diseases that may have gotten to them though the filth they lived in...

Just yesterday stuff that can cause the plague was stolen from the CDC nobody knows how now we have more security at the 7-11’s then they had at that place...

This is how it starts mass confusion people are willing to do anything to be safe and are all to willing to give up they liberty’s for well in the case food, water shelter etc.

It’s all part of the neo con nazi Zionist Jew pigs that have taken over Washington bush is only a puppet a stooge a fried brain low iq idiot that is a phony he is a psychopath a Hitler wannabe...

First they the neo con did 911 so they could roll out there quest for there new world order and invade two countries that had nothing to do with 911, those towers were take down with explosives they blamed on Bin Laden one hell of a guy this little guy out smarted everyone and did it from a cave 9,000 miles away...

He not only fooled everyone but had fema go to New York the night before 911 and had Norad stand down and had all the so called terrorist train in our military installation but, yet non of the so called terrorist names were on the manifesto of any of the planes...

FBI never came forward to say the 8 of the so called terrorist are alive and well and have proven they had nothing to do with 911 did the FBI tell the public of course not it would blow a hole in there lie who and why 911 happened...

Bush the nazi sympathizer want the people the bush boot licker that they did it because they hate our freedoms and they want to come here and kill us all only the dumbed down ignorant bush boot lickers would believe a crock of lies like that...

It’s time to wake up and realize you bee had scammed lied to big time and still lying I have always said they would pull another 911 but it would be a lot worst welcome to Katrina 911 number two...

Get ready for number three the big one that will make Katrina look like a Sunday outing and got caught in a storm...

This time it will be and earthquake somewhere in California close to a coast San Francisco it will kill tens of thousands then the plague will start but will hear of the plague before that I’m sure...

I sure as hell hope I’m wrong but from my research and top incredible people with knowledge believe we are in for one hell of a ride...

They are trying to keep the people confused as to really going on in this country like we are broke as a nation and it’s been getting worst and they have put billions in the stock market to keep it a float it’s a bubble about ready to burst along with the dollar it’s been dropping the euro keeps rising most of the good paying jobs are leaving being sent to China, India etc.

They fudge the real numbers for unemployment these rats will stoop to anything to stay in power that includes plundering our nation for all it’s worth just before 911 Rummy come out an says we can’t account for 2.3 trillion from the Pentagon they knew about 911 and they knew that would be buried in the 911 confusion when they said 2.3 trillion you damn well know it was more like double well they had to pay for 911 the pay off the murder and what ever it took they have getting away with so far...

But, the window is closing and the truth will out in the end people are starting to wake-up and see these scum the only reason they are beefing up the states is not because they fear terrorist are coming here no it’s because they know if the people ever find out the truth they will take the country apart not to mention the neo con nazi pigs in Washington they will revote against the corruption that has taken over and destroying America to mention other countries and the mass murdering of innocent people that are defending there country and bush calls them terrorist when in all accounts they are freedom fighters and don’t want to be occupied and have there 700 trillion dollars of oil stolen and they get nothing...

The phony war on terror has cost us 300 billion so far and no end in sight you bush boot lickers condone this because you think bush is doing this because of terrorist you people are pathetic...

Bush loves people like you, you’re dumbed down, drugged out, head up ass crowd that just don’t give a damn as long as you can get your next fix you ignorant damn fools deserve bush and his neo con nazi Jew Zionist pigs...



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Monday September 19 - 08:15 - Posted by 69c87a132bd4fec9...

This guy writes like a high school dropout, but his point is correct. There are people out there who want us all dead, and since they’re at heart, a bunch of scurrying cockroaches, they do all their dirty work in the shadows. Our technology is now at a point where we can’t take anything for granted, even controlling the weather and earthquakes. The Bible itself says that the reason God set the human life span at 120 years is because, if we all lived forever, then we would someday reach a point where there would be nothing we couldn’t accomplish. And if anyone knows what’s going on inside our sinful little minds, it’s God!.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 23 - 05:26 - Posted by de08233c9845bc39...

IF THIS GUY IS ONLY HALF RIGHT, I CAN ONLY SAYTHAT WE’D ALL BETTER MAKE PEACE WITH OUR MAKER. THE THING ABOUT THE PLAGUE WHEW. FIRST THEY COULD CONCEIVABLY BE INFECTED, AND THEN TRASNSPORTED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, BUT AS MUCH AS I THINK THIS GOV’T IS A SNAKE PIT, THEY WOULDN’T GO THAT FAR, WOULD THEY. I HOPE NOT, BUT THEN AGAIN, WHY ONLY HAVE 2 MILLION "BIRD FLU" VACCINES ON HAND WHEN CONCEIVABLY EVERYONE COULD BE AFFECTED. IS THIS GOVERMENT REALLY THAT SINISTER? I WOULD HATE TO THINK THAT CAPTAIN TRIPPS IS ON IT’S WAY



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Saturday September 17 - 04:40 - Posted by aabdba7b4bc1a9ae...

Citibank is one word, as is someone. Since you have the time time try to learn the english language. there are other errors as well but I won’t take the time to edit your comments for you. If you want to be seen as intelligent please learn to write correctly.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Saturday September 17 - 11:49 - Posted by d93067e72b75c435...

Speaking of errors.........do you ever proof read? And, sentences begin with capital letters, etc.....since you have the time...blah, blah, blah.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Saturday September 17 - 16:48 - Posted by 92e016ed768de008...

The word is "proofread"—one word, not two. Yeesh. I have to admit that I didn’t even get as far as the two-word "Citibank" bit, as the errata and lack of concern for clear communication drove me from it.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Monday September 19 - 16:12 - Posted by 14a6a8f650e68f9a...

Citibank is a made up word by a large company, you idiot. If all you got out of the writer’s comments were some spelling Errors, read it again. There was a point to be made, wheather or not you got the point or even agree with it, you added alot to the conversation. (Fool)

City is spelled with a Y, not an I. Why don’t you write this large company and tell them the error of there ways.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 23 - 05:38 - Posted by de08233c9845bc39...

hey......grow up



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Monday September 19 - 03:59 - Posted by 513afda60b87628e...

I wonder if you have heard of the federal reserve bank is a private bank?
I wonder if you ever heard of norad never being shut down except on 9/11?
I wonder if you ever heard of the project for a new american century?
I Wonder if you ever heard of your great presidents grandfather being arrested for aiding and
abetting the enemy....nazi germany
I could go on and on and on with this so called "BS" with all the credible and documented
literature how you can be so blind to the obvious. Does an osterich really stick it’s head into the
sand?



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Monday September 19 - 07:17 - Posted by 69c87a132bd4fec9...

Good point. I can’t believe that all the rich people in America got that way because they stole from the poor. As Ayn Rand used to say "It’s impossible to get rich by stealing from the poor. They don’t have anything of value, that’s why they’re called "the poor!" A country full of slaves won’t make anyone rich, just look at North Korea for a handy example. At the most, it might make a very few comfy, but the energy expended, keeping three hundred million of us enslaved, would not make it worthwhile. It would make much more sense to enrich and empower a capitilist ecomony, in order to ensure a never-ending stream of consumers. Remember that the American dollar has been backed by the governments’ ability to tax Americans ever sinse we went off the gold standard seventy years ago. Without taxpayers, our currency would be worth zero, and if that happened, then the "rich" will lose everything.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 23 - 06:52 - Posted by de08233c9845bc39...

well said, but wrong....wrong...wrong. you seem to forget that this country is 7 trillion dollars in debt, our currency is already worth zero, the money these people (bush\cheney and friends..)are spending hasn’t even been earned yet, and has already been spent, to continually spend money in excess of "predicted future revenues" i.e, the taxes the gov’t is gonna’ collect in the future, is lunacy. lets not forget that 250,000 wage earners just went on unemplyment. and rita hasn’t gotten here yet. we’re in deep doo-doo here folks, deep doo-doo. also, to think you can’t get rich from stealing from the poor isn’t true, if you steal a little bit from alot of people over a long period of time, pretty soon you’re talking real money, and concerning your comparison to north korea, that’s just sick.. but i can say that those people moved out of new orleans who have nothing left...absolutely nothing, will most certainly look like starving koreans before too long.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Wednesday September 21 - 21:54 - Posted by 96097822b07752cd...

look, i can’t confirm or deny much of anything. But i can say that in West Texas we recieved some of the evacuees. Several of them report seeing men in military uniform near the levee’s as the storm approached. One person stated that they went up to them and was stopped at gunpoint and redirected with a brief explanation of "nothing to see here, you need to leave the city."

Later explosions were heard by these individuals. they stated that they came from the areas around some of the levees. After these explosions, the city began to flood because the levees were gone.

Is everything being said true? No, history shows that there are elements of all races that seek to finger point and cry foul. the poor black people in new orlean are no different. but, does that mean that everything they say is untrue? once again, no. too many people with a similar story.

did something happen? yes, i think that the government tends to do things that they deem appropriate for one reason or another, even if it hurts individuals. We as Americans, needless to say, find it offensive to sacrifice the few for the many.

However, those of you who think that American Gov’t doesn’t commit atrocities forgets about all the black military men that were infected with STD’s for experimentation.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Wednesday September 28 - 09:34 - Posted by 42b089259b4c6e26...

You need to do some homework pal. My mothers home was completely destroyed by flooding in upstate NY. FEMA made its appearence, as there were many homes in ruin. Cash was NOT what they were giving out! Loans were! " Low interest " they said but.....not a fixed rate. Most of these homeowners, our neighbors, could not possibly think of yet another morgage. Try to imagine Your home in complete ruin and no way to pay such a loan in order to keep it? FEMA actually did offer some $. My mother was given $500. Hardly what I would call "Passing out cash". While this tragedy was taking place, I inquired as to the reason FEMA is so hugely funded and obviously offers only additional home loans. Well my answer was given! The funding for FEMA is for administrative purposes. There you have it. My heart goes out to these good, poor people as I know first hand what they are feeling. Betrayed and mislead. Please do your homework before you tote such a rash judgement. For all its huge funding, FEMA is an ultimate, tax sucking, failure.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Thursday October 13 - 17:46 - Posted by 9d87511fb13509c9...

What a load of crap...some of the people on this site need to get their medication adjusted. If you think there are government conspiracies then you don’e know government. Our government is not able to committ conspiracy becasue it would take teamwork and and effective system of communication that would prevent leaks. It is our own government policies on freedom of information that allows for information to be released. Most would think that the information is redacted to hide facts, however, it is only to take out personal information on people and businesses. There will never be any proof, or any witnesses to support these alledged conspiracy theories because they don’t exist. If people live in poverty it is becasue that is the way of life they choose not because the government is responsible. The only responsibility the government has is that it created a system (welfare) that enables people to rely on free money...no efforts have been placed on getting people back into the workforce. I think if everyone took responsibility for thier own actions this country would be a better place to live. Unfortunately, relaxed immagration laws and wefare are turning our countyr into a third world. That is the problem with New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina...people were out for themselves...not to help each other. So to all you conspiracy theory folks...get back to your unsupported, unsubstatiated BS and don’t bother the working class who make this country livable.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday October 14 - 06:17 - Posted by 74fc47ed0be1d094...

your answer is in your own question oh wise one



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Tuesday December 27 - 02:02 - Posted by ad15cab82adb56e5...

I have no doubt in my mind that the Katrina catastrophe was actually a well planned terrorist attack on the black people of New Orleans.It’s obvious that it was man-made just like the tsunami of last year.These horrible acts are just a few of the numerous plans carried out by Bush and his evil illuminati masters. Examples of these include the AIDS , drugs, civil wars, famine ,wmd’s, third world poverty, crime and other prevalent epidemics. Thank God, these things were not able to have their intended full effects.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 06:06 - Posted by 16e892fc448f0004...

These conspiracy people in particular or what scare me. They turn everything into a race issue when it is clearly the federal government that is the source of nefarious activity. The only video I saw of people being forcibly evicted was an old white lady so it’s clearly the government against poor people, NOT rich white people against poor black people. I wouldn’t be surprised if these race mongers are agencies of the federal gov’t.. PRETENDING to be "pro atzlan" mexicans.. Just like the Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center.. all agencies of the federal gov’t spreading their brand of hate. Using Hegelian Dialect against the people.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 06:36 - Posted by 7a148d1d6a14e189...

EC did you read my former post.

"Conspiracy people"??? Hey, hey, everything your right shouldn’t be turned into a race issue, probably better in many cases to understand the conflicts come from economic issues and only race as a product of that.

The Neo-CON Fascists have a definate Agenda. Intentionally breeching the levees wold simply allow the opportunists liie Haliburton to decend on the corpses for the picking of the bones. Cheney reminds me of something out of the Night of The Living Dead.

SmT



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 21:10 - Posted by 2d1dc651beb27c46...

NeoconFascists, et al indeed have an agenda-and they have not been shy in letting the world know about it.
 the bush family mafia and their varied international biz partners have been in the biz of either assisting (alot) and certainly setting up illegal profit schemes for almost 100 years now—DO THE RESEARCH on this family (aka the Kennebunkport Corleone’s as they have been addressed in some books/articles) the FACTS are there—material on this has been suppressed, obsfucated (by various threats/means..HWbush has been connected to D.C., headed the CIA, been president for MANY decades now) or re-routed over the decades. These ’folks’ are perfectly capable of facilitating THOSE that DO THE ACTUAL DIRTY WORK-they are MASTERS at it.
All of HWbush’s friends are back in power via his boy, Georgie, the current prez—HW practically HAND PICKED his boy’s inner circle...now add ALL this obvious POWER, MOTIVE and MEANS to the current situation facing N.Orleans and the oil rich Gulf Coast - along with Casino $$$—
then stir in those that will be ’appointed’ (see: Halliburton, et al) to the ’redevelopment’ effort in NOrleans and the Gulf...the massive $$ to be made—starting with funds GIVEN to these
’developer friends’ from CONGRESS - meaning your $$ and my $$—(corporate welfare) — how brilliant is this scheme?! It is now known that the breach in the levees caused the massive flooding in NOrleans—the inundation...NOT the winds/blowing rains of Katrina.
Do you really think God and Nature did all this damage simply to bless the bush family and friends yet again with a fantastic new development project (again, MORE $$ for the bush family & friends) in NO and the Gulf Coast? Come on, get real, pollyannas! All the African-American families (a huge portion) are now scattered to other cities—will they get THEIR LAND BACK?!
Will they have a SAY is what happens to NOrleans or their neighborhoods in the re-building process?! This is America-and the bush family&cronies have assumed a monarchesque ownership-game over.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 23 - 05:14 - Posted by de08233c9845bc39...

HELLO, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I’VE EVER WRITTEN TO A "BLOG" I THINK THEY CALL IT, AND BOY HAVE I BEEN MISSING ALL THE FUN..I WROTE ONE EARLIER ABOUT "CLIMATRONICS, A LITTLE FURTHER UP THE PAGE, TO A GUY NAMED CARL; THIS IS FUN, BUT IT’S ALSO DEADLY SERIOUS. IT IS STARTING TO DAWN ON ME THAT YOU’RE RIGHT, IT IS A MATTER OF THE WEALTHY AGAINST THE POOR, AND IT DOESN’T MAKE A DAMN BIT OF DIFFERENCE WHAT RACE YOU ARE. I AM A 44 Y/O, WELL EDUCATED HIGHLY SKILLED AMERICAN WORKER, WHO THROUGH VERY LITTLE FAULT OF MY OWN, HAPPENS TO BE POOR. TRUE, A VAST MAJORITY OF THE POOREST PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE BLACK, AND THAT’S BECAUSE MOST COMPANIES PRACTICE ECONOMIC WARFARE BY DENYING QAULIFIED WORKERS JOBS, AT A PAY RATE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES, (NOT TO MENTION FURTHERING THE SITUATION BY LETTING THE SCHOOLS FALL APART, AND HIRING SUBSTANDARD TEACHERS FOR LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT THEY ARE WORTH), MOST KIDS TODAY JUST WANT THE 3 O’CLOCK BELL TO RING BEFORE THEY’RE SHOT, THE HELL WITH TRYING TO LEARN ANYTHING BUT THERE ARE ALSO QUITE A FEW HARD WORKING, LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK WHITES, HISPANICS, ASIAN, AND OTHER NATIONALITIES OUT THERE,WHO ARE 2 WEEKS AWAY FROM HOMELESSNESS WITHOUT A PAYCHECK. I KNOW THIS FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I SPENT QUITE A LOT OF TIME HOMELESS, EVEN WITH A GREAT JOB, I DIDN’T HAVE A ""RENTAL HISTORY"" SO NO ONE WOULD RENT ME A PLACE. THE HOTELS WOULD RENT ON A NIGHT BY NIGHT BASIS FOR ABOUT $100.00, BUT WHO CAN AFFORD THAT FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME? 2 WEEKS, AND THEY’RE IN SO DEEP, THEY’LL NEVER GET OUT. IT’S DISASTERS LIKE KATRINA 3 WEEKS AGO THAT PUT IT ALL INTO PERSPECTIVE FOR US...AND AS RITA APPROACHES "NEW ORLEANS PEOPLE...NOT TEXAS" ( SEE.. EVEN THE WEATHER CHANNEL WILL LIE TO YOU. (PROPBABLY DIDN’T HAVE THE GUTS TO TELL US IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ALL OVER AGAIN, BUT WORSE THIS TIME) 2 MILLION PEOPLE EVACUATE THE WRONG STATE. NOW THEY ARE STUCK IN 10 HOUR LONG TRAFFIC JAMS, WITH LITTLE OR NO FOOD, GAS, WATER, AND MEDICINE, IN A TRAFFIC JAM!! AND NO SHELTERS ANYWHERE NEAR THERE, AND WHO’S GOING TO COME HELP THEM?. THE BUSHES AND CHENEY’S OF THE WORLD? SPARE ME.. IT’LL BE THE NATIONAL GUARD, (WHO ARE IN IRAQ!!) THE RED CROSS, AND OTHER FINE FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS WHO RELY PRIMARILY ON VOLUNTEERS AND DONATIONS (WHICH AGAIN, LET’S THE RICH PASS THE BUCK) THE REAL DISASTER IS GOING TO BE WATCHING THOSE LEVIES FINALLY GO COMPLETELY... PEOPLE BLAME THE PRESIDENT, WHO IS LIABLE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, IN CASES SUCH AS THIS, BUT IT’S THE PEOPLE WE DON’T SEE, THE CHENEY’S OF THE CORPORATE WORLD, WHO ARE BEHIND THIS ECONOMIC WARFARE. THAT’S HOW I SEE IT, ECONOMIC WARFARE, GET RID OF THE POOR, THEY’RE A DRAIN ON MY POCKETBOOK. THAT’S WHAT I SEE. THEY WANT TO DO AWAY WITH ALL FORMS OF HELP FOR THE POOR, HOPING THEY WILL DRY UP AND BLOW AWAY, AND THEN THEY CAN ALL GET BACK TO THE BUSINESS OF "MAKING MONEY" WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE...THE LOSS OF HEALTH BENIFITS, SKYROCKETING PRICES ON BASIC NECESSITIES LIKE FOOD, CLOTHES, ELECTRICITY, HOME HEATING OIL, (BOY ARE YOU GUYS IN FOR A BIG SURPRISE!!) INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT TAKE YOUR MONEY AND THEN SAY BUG-OFF WHEN YOU FILE A CLAIM, DOWN-SIZING, OUTSOURCING..TAX BREAKS FOR THE WEALTHY, (I’M STILL PAYING 24% OUT OF EVERY DOLLAR, WHERE THE HELL IS MY TAX BREAK) I COULD GO ON AND ON.. BUT WHO’D LISTEN.. WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE ARE THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, BECAUSE THEY STILL THINK THIS PLACE IS A PARADISE COMPARED TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM. THAT’S WHY BUSH JUST LETS THEM COME IN, WHO’S GONNA’ CUT THE MILLIONAIRES LAWNS, OF RAISE THEIR KIDS, (GOD FORBID THE PARENTS SPENT ANY TIME WITH THEM) WHO’S GONNA’ COOK THEIR FOOD, DO THEIR LAUNDRY, CLEAN THE HOUSE? THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS... WHO WILL BE FORCED TO ACCEPT THE UNACCEPTABLE WAGES, WITH NO BENEFITS, AND 12 HOUR DAYS, BECAUSE THEY’LL BE TOO AFRAID TO RAISE THEIR VOICES. YES, IT’S GUYS LIKE CHENEY WHO SCARE ME, BUT WHAT SCARES ME MORE IS THAT WE LET THESE PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH IT. WHERE DOES THE PRESIDENT GET OFF TELLING THE POOREST PEOPLE OUT THERE, WITH NO PLACE TO LIVE, OR ANYTHING, THAT WE MUST NOW ACCEPT CUT RATE WAGES TO PERFORM THE DIRTIEST WORK IMAGINABLE. IF YOU’D LIKE TO START A REAL ECONOMIC REVOLUTION IN THIS COUNTRY, DON’T TAKE THE JOB, LET THOSE SUMBITCHES CLEAN IT UP THEMSELVES. BESIDES, IT’S COMPANIES LIKE HALIBURTON AND BECHTEL* WHO WILL OWN THE LAND, AND THEN THEY WILL COLLECT THE RENTS FROM THOSE PEOPLE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE FOUND A WAY TO BEGIN TO RECOVER-. IT HAS TO STOP!!. LET THEM CLEAN IT UP, BECAUSE YOU’LL NEVER BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE THERE!! I WAS NEVER SO PISSED OFF AS WHEN I COULD HELP BUILD A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOUSE, AND MADE GOOD MONEY DOING IT, AND BE DENIED HOUSING BECAUSE I HAD NO "RENTAL HISTORY. I’LL SAY A PRAYER FOR YOU ALL
PEACE...OUT...RICH



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 06:42 - Posted by 742ab1fe38cd5ab7...

I agree with the wording of many authors being wrong. Yes (King) George Bush may be racisist along with alot of white America, but the incident in New Orleans is about class. Funny how when an issue comes about people dwell on the surface issues and not what problem really is.
The facts are that someone has committed a crime. The whole country will see this all unfold and what will the people do?.... Nothing.
If the truth about 9/11 is that the twin towers were really brought down by planned explosives... The flood in New Orleans being a "Land Grab". So What... no one is crying for anyone to be on trial. The people, even the conspiracy mongers are all sitting on their butts, placing articles and blame. The biggest issue of all are the first of the last two elections... Forget about bush or Gore, the right to vote was comprimised, the premise of democracy and what did the (sheep) people do... Notrhing be bend over and take it up the butt... Maybe If action by the people would have taken place, There would not have been a 9/11 or a Levee breach.
No one is talking about what needs to be done to prevent more crimminal acts from happening. If even 20% of the info being listed about conspiracy in government is true... I don’t see any grand jury indictements. No one is in jail, and even if the conspiracy’s are throughout government. I don’t see the people up waving their fist.
If I were in a government where the people were like sheeo, I’d continue to do whatever I had to do to rape America (Who would stop me).
FACE IT... THE PEOPLE ARE COWARDS AND WHATEVER HAPPENS TO AMERICA (FROM WITHIN THE GOVERNEMENT), THE PEOPLE DESERVE EVERY BIT OF IT.... WOW! AND HERE EVERYONE IS WORRYING ABOUT RACIAL ISSUES... YOU FOOLS.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 23 - 05:42 - Posted by de08233c9845bc39...

i just wanted to ask you , do you know who "owns" the american goverment, the rich own it, and push bush and friends around like wimps on a school playground



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 06:36 - Posted by 3f38e2e74bd6cd03...

I instinctively knew that the levee was blown using explosives by ’Black Ops.’ I also knew that
there would be witnesses and undoutably firefights between local ’Home Boys’ and the stink’n
Federal agents resposible. Most people thought I was crazy and still do, but these reports now
being posted at sights like this only verify the veracity of my gut instincts. Feds are always
’HELPING’ us at the end of a barrel. They got away without any real flack in Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City, Waco Texas, 911, etc. Does this really suprise any of us who still can think for
ourselves and don’t need the Orwellian Boob-Tube to do it for us?




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 16:09 - Posted by 075dbec50a242f57...

Moreover, no one should be surprised if/when a large deposit of recoverable crude is discovered below the flooded land in East N.O. (by a Halliburton subsidiary.)



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 23 - 06:18 - Posted by de08233c9845bc39...

you may find this interesting, a few days ago i heard a report that scientists have developed a way to force natural gas out of rock, through some type of new process. the gulf coast has one hell of a huge natural gas deposit that has primarily been depleted. the ability to now force gas out of the rocks which "trapped" all that natural gas in the first place, means billions and billions of dollars in petro dollars to be scooped up, just as soon as they get all the people out of the way. interesting huh? especially the timing



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 17:41 - Posted by 65f057cef4538ddf...

all of you are misguided and wrong...

the situation is complex and so can not be adequately summarised simplistically without leaving out essential points...

it is not about race

it is about money and power

this is nothing new

this behaviour from those who rule is as old as the hills

they are in power because they think differently

if you want to change all this then you must change and become that which you hate - except that you will have become identical to that which you hate and so will change nothing



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 23 - 06:36 - Posted by de08233c9845bc39...

regarding your statement "the behavior of those that rule is as old as the hills.. i must remind you that WE THE PEOPLE who started this great country 230 years ago didn’t do so thinking the american people were ever going to have to put up with being "ruled" again. the goverment is supposed to be working "for" us, unfortunately, somewhere along the way, we forgot that. to speak up this late in "the game" and raise any kind of opposition to the criminal behavior of our elected officials and all of their cronies and "allies" (like saudi arabia? who’s kidding who) would be considered subversion, and you’d be subjected to jail for "treasonable activities during wartime". the fix is in boys and girls, even if we wanted to "take back this country" we couldn’t possibly succeed, we’d be branded as traitors, and terrorists, and shot on site. i especially feel bad for all those poor soldiers over there getting killed for doing what they beleive in, unfortunately, no-ones had the heart to tell them the whole thing started with a lie.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 19:34 - Posted by dbc35e8a5c073058...

This is certainly believable as this group of Cheney et al. will do anything to get what they want. Cheney is always M.I.A. when things happen, probably behind the scenes getting Haliburton rolling.
I think that Haliburton may be having lots of workers in Iraq complaining and wanting to come back to US to work, now they can. This IS w. and Dick’s "Perfect Storm", lots of money to be made by the already wealthy (Haliburton), And lots of poverty to spread (especially important before the new bankruptcy laws).
One should ask WHY are these people being forced to leave, especially the ones whose neighborhoods were not flooded?
Watch the counts of the dead...they are also under contract of a W. friend’s business and the numbers are being fixed!
Face the facts...NOTHING is beyond this group of crminals in their quest for money, power, elitism!!



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 06:48 - Posted by 9661e4c64f28d4c6...

I understand that the levees were breeched by the federal government in order to displace the African American population in order to confiscate New Orleans in a plan to turn the property over to illegal aliens as a new capital in Noth America called Nuevo Orleans.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 08:19 - Posted by 864d928adc39b610...

One must not forget a few simple facts. Last month’s landgrab law through Supreme Court. Katherina was a Category 1 over Florida and went up to Category ???, well they dont say much about real strenght execpt it’s the worst one yet. The extreme slow response and red tape occurences, the 5 defence "contrators" shot down by the police near the levee break point and the killings and suspicious suicides of police force units. The last one, GWB in his speach tonight told the use of federal lands to relocate the poor black people and looking ahead to a bright future.. Strange that a few cuts in the budgets (under $200 millions) might cost the tax payers a thousand times more.

Add to that the majority of the Media Outlets hazing the whole story, you can only come to one conclusion. Never in history has so few benefited from so many. If it is what they call New World Order, then let’s look for a different New World. Maybe one where PEACE is promoted instead of Democracy.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 08:25 - Posted by 9ef3f332aa24fac8...

will this be the turning piont for a mass wake up call to the slumbering joe public.one can only hope ,but i have seen some things come through the mianstream news about katrina.abc reported that the people on the ground heard bombs go off just as the levy broke,that one hit me by suprise.not to long ago the feds found oil reserves under new orleans,i have this feeling we will see iol fields in new orleans.if the neocons attemt to drill for oil after they evict everybody my hope is this could be the start of constitutional soul searching going back to grassroots politics and evict the constitution haters out of the whitehouse why stop thier next evict congress for not upholding thier outh to serve the people to protect then from evil creatures but dont stop thier we cant forget the justice dept for them turning a blind eye to the bushies anti american activities.so wil this be the event that wakes up joe public or will the next attack by our government be the real awakening ,i hope that katrina was the wake call.some people think that we can expect these monsters will try something soon some place els in the united states,but some other people believe bush will be impeached by time the primerys start for the next election i would like to believe the latter.it is time for us to watch them at thier every move instead of them watching our every move time to wake up america we are in a chess game for are freedom and its our move p.sgodspeed




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 09:33 - Posted by 5acdcde7a724ec49...

Lets face it Folks; The Government is merely an old fashioned Extortion Murder racket. At the top are a group of urban renewal experts who employee the tactics of arson and mass murder, and hire an assortment of "Catastrophe Engineers."

We all would already be nuclear waste except for the intervention of the "Higher level powers."

Did "ET" visit New Orleans? Did he shift the center of the hurricane 15 miles to the east?

If he did, it was so that we may get a clear look at our genocidal nuclear war criminals, and wake up and pull their plug out, before they have anymore chances to exterminate us with nuclear weapons.

http://politicsofet.com




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 16:01 - Posted by 075dbec50a242f57...

Moreover, no one should be surprised when/if after the remnants of the poor black’s housing is torn down in East N.O. and the land purchased for a penny on the dollar large quantities of recoverable crude are discovered below (most likely by a subsidiary of Halliburton.)




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 16:03 - Posted by 075dbec50a242f57...

Moreover, no one should be surprised when/if after the remnants of the poor black’s housing is torn down in East N.O. and the land purchased for a penny on the dollar large quantities of recoverable crude are discovered below (most likely by a subsidiary of Halliburton.)




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 16:36 - Posted by c431bf9ba030dc82...

Here are some links to the original article and how it has morphed, also some other interesting info to add to the cover-up.

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2005/0...




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 16:42 - Posted by 01b3dd4a37773a5d...

No one did anything when it was revealed that America’s leaders knew a week in advance about the impending attack on Pearl Harbor and let it happen. No one did anything when it was revealed, on national television no doubt, that before they could begin rescue operations in OKC they had to FIRST defuse bombs on the inside of the building that had failed to go off, indicating an inside job with a patsy frame. No one did anything on 911 when piece after piece of government fiction fell to the floor as a lie. The pattern is set. The government has found a way to kill their people and be looked at as heroic heroes who come to the aid of the survivors and get rich. What more incentive do you need? What the people need to do is re-learn what real freedom is and how REAL freedom is attained. You’re not going to get REAL freedom by going to the government over your grievances or through THEIR law. You’re only going to get REAL freedom the way it was attained recently in Romania.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 18:01 - Posted by 3f38e2e74bd6cd03...

Excellant Synopsis!
Way to go!
That is exactly what they did, what they planned.
Hell it is PsyOps straight out of Tavistock.
"If it keeps on rainin the levee’s going to break

If it keeps on rainin the levee’s going to break

If the levee breaks have no place to stay" Led Zepplin 

As much of a Tavistock Psyops as the London 7-7 Bombings!

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NO ONE HERE GETS OUT ALIVE!
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> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 19:04 - Posted by 90dc55b802de4a69...

Hello Americans;-)

S. D. Bob Plisken here! ;-) It wouldn’t surprise me a bit coming from just a two-bit crook like George Bush and his family of world thugs be given permission from his real father down below and the family of Rothchilds. They wanna play life and death in this Universe, I’m ready! It will all spit back in thier face when they soon will die anyway with their wickedness. They wanna war in this Universe, they got one! Just look up and tedemption will come from the One who made the whole Universe. Oh well, here’s one for the gipper! Judgment Day is coming anyway!;-)

S.D.Bob Plisken
Snake_Plisken2005@lycos.com




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 16 - 19:14 - Posted by 0a50fa0f3d11c30e...

Yours is the charitable view.

It’s possible that there was no conspiracy. That’s even more scary, because the response to the flood was that of a third world country. Are we really turning into a third world tin pot dictatorship? At least with a conspiracy the rich are screwing over the poor which is just business as usual.

— slaveofbabylon




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Saturday September 17 - 01:35 - Posted by a0562928c29e2fe2...

you people are out of your fucking minds...




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Saturday September 17 - 03:29 - Posted by 0568399937cf08ed...

It wouldn’t surprise me if this is true, but this will be one more thing that AMERICA will have to answer for. Believe me "WE WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR THIS", and much, much more!




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Saturday September 17 - 03:36 - Posted by fec848aba0a02b84...

This is the most rediculous article I have ever read. Where are those quotes from Nagin from? Why do you use an article from the UK to bolster your conspiracy theory? A quote you should have used was from Adam Sandler’s "Big Daddy", "everyone in this room is now stupider for listening". I would tell you to go back to Italy, but they probably don’t want you either. I heard their was some cheap land in antarctica, why don’t you go gobble it up and create a commune for ignoramuses before the government gets it. I bet when LA caves in on your head during a quake, your going to blame the government for not reinforcing the fault line. Get a job and lay off the drugs, man!




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Saturday September 17 - 12:05 - Posted by d93067e72b75c435...

The photo says it all. Look at the faces of these two evilmongers. Can anyone look at them and not see the vile thoughts written on their ugly faces. They make Hitler and Mussolini look like innocent babes.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Saturday September 17 - 17:27 - Posted by 1f5d45eddb430028...

What is the land value in North Korea? By oil reserves, the conspirators should be sending our troops to Sudan.

Or will it be a gift to Communist China? In place of Unical? Isn’t China behind most of the 90’s conspiracies?? Most favored nation? Ignoring Human Rights Violations?



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Sunday September 18 - 14:43 - Posted by 6947a3284b362b5b...

do many people read these? or is it empty arguing?



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Sunday September 18 - 15:00 - Posted by 3322d93748a6df50...

> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Sunday September 18 - 17:23 - Posted by 6e0c105a4729afb9...

ok ............... poor black people had valeuable propertys.
and thats the only sensable portion of this article.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Sunday September 18 - 20:09 - Posted by 864b09a2ff36b8fd...

THIS IS UTTERLY REDICULOUS AND...IS MEANT TO CAUSE TROUBLE AND MORE UNREST...I DON’T KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ARTICLE BUT...NO DOUBT ABOUT WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE...




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Sunday September 18 - 21:16 - Posted by a5b7a2a7cc25683d...

One need only remember in New YorK City and the South Bronx. Remember Fort Apache? Well there were no show landlords that leased broken down tenements in the South Bronx. they did not pay their taxes or keep up the homes. The City commissioned either Brookings or Rand to do a study as to the least expensive way to remedy the situation. The report came back that the City should shut down fire houses in the area. This way the house would be destroyed, and the tennants removed by the fire. No need for a lengthy court cases. All the city would then have to do is bull doze the burnt out structure.
the rest is history.
Would you put it past the thieves and murders that now inhabit the White House to breach a levy?




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Monday September 19 - 19:48 - Posted by d8d4447ebff962e9...

Almost 24 hours after Katrina, it was evident by the use of force, the with holding of relief that something was amiss. Then the levies broke (i.e. blown). Bush and cronies wanted the LA Gov & NO Mayor to sign over all control to the Feds. Haliburton given Billions in rebuilding contracts. What if anything in facts doesn’t add up to the story and witnesses reports. It was completely apparent the levies were blown and whom stood to profit.

The thugs ain’t giving anything away to the fools that believe their stinch of lies. The only plans they have for you is to waste your sorry deluded expendable a$$ for their monetary gain anyway.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Monday September 19 - 07:43 - Posted by a2f367ea75e775f9...

WAKE UP AMERICA! Open your eyes. Observe your surroundings. Are you where you want to be, or have you sleep walked yourself into a corner. If you are in that place you want to be, good for you. For the thousands of others who are in the corner, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to turn around and walk away, or are you just going to keep staring at a blank wall. The man wants us to keep staring at that wall.
I person ally would rather turn around and see the world for what it really is, and also, what it could be. I am going to take a step forward and when I see that step is good, I will take another, and another. I am going to keep walking until I find that place I want to be.
Imagine a world where there is no fighting, a world where all living things are equal, a world FILLED… with unconditional love. A world where everyone and everything can be happy and free, living in harmony with all other things.
This new world is possible, but if we never take that first step, we will never see it. If we never turn our heads than we are still looking at a blank wall, that wall is your future, my future… our future.
I am still young, I have my whole life ahead of me, I do not want to spent the rest of it in a cell. Even if that cell is seven continents wide and five oceans long. A cell is no place to live, or even die.
All over the country people are talking, talking about how corrupt this government and these corporations are, and talking about how truly wrong what they are doing is. People are talking, thousands of voices whispering in the dark, but that is all. No action, just words. There is nothing wrong with talking, but it won’t get us very far, especially when our voices are just a whisper under the screaming media.
We need to take action, action for our future, action for our children’s future. Stand up for what is right; don’t just talk about what it wrong.
This is my future we are talking about, my brothers and my sisters, and our unborn children’s future. I don’t want my family living the rest of our lives in a police state, afraid to step outside, afraid to raise our voices, afraid to live.
It is time to stand up, fight for you r rights, don’t just talk about then slipping away. Grab hold of them, pull them back inside of you and let them help guide you towards freedom, and when I say ‘your rights’, I don’t mean your rights as an American citizen, I mean the right to be human, your rights as a citizen of this planet
It is time America, for a new government. A government with no power over the people, where people have power over the government.
Its time for a revolution, it is time for us to take our lives back into our own hands, its time to take some responsibility. Its time for a new time, a time where there is no such thing as time, only now.
NOW IS THAT TIME!
I want to see a change in my life, and I’m sure I’m not the only one who wants that. Some of us don’t have as much time on this planet as others, so we need to seize that time and roll with it, become it.
That time is now, I don’t want to wait a couple more years, I don’t even want to wait a couple more months, because in a couple months, we may not be here. I don’t want to leave this planet, my home where I was seeded and where I have grown roots, where my friends and family have grown roots. Sadly in our current situation, either by the hands of the government or by the hands of nature we are headed in the direction, slowly killing this planet so that we will be forced to move on.
If we don’t want to leave than we must change directions. Let us lift our heads and seek change in what ever way possible.
Whether that means making your voice heard or making your actions seen. The time is now, we can’t afford to wait any longer because with every passing day the government and the corporations gain more power, more troops, and more sheep. When are we the people going to see this? Are we gong to wait until it’s too late, are we just going to stand by while they steal our lives away?
I’m sick watching other people handing their life’s over to the corporations. Little by little they not only take our life’s away, we give it them. And for what? A shiny new car? A new TV? Are those material things worth our lives? I say NO, and I know I’m not the only one. Your life is your soul is your body is this earth and THAT… is priceless, it can’t be bought or sold for anything.
The government way have brainwashed half of this county, but we the people, the other half are still here and we are not willing to let go. Not willing to let go of this earth, not willing to let go of our spirit.
The sooner we take a stand, the easier it will be… NOT that is going to be easy. This will be one of the hardest wars the human race has ever fought, because there is no common enemy, we are fighting against ourselves.
The people in power are ready for us to grab our guns and head to their front door, they are ready for a violent war, so let’s not give them that, let’s give them peace… and show them how to use it. Let’s keep our protests peaceful, let’s share our love, not our hate. Love is the bringer of life, hate brings only death. Hate is what started this war in the beginning, hate will not stop it.
We must show love – unconditional love, even towards those we hate. We must show love for this planet, and love for the spirit or humanity. Only with love will we win this war and live to tell about. And it is with that love that we must stand up, it is with that love that we must face those that we hate. It is with love that we will see peace, and with peace comes freedom.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Monday September 19 - 23:41 - Posted by f95df0abf9aa8aef...

This is very interesting. Many of the pictures that I saw on Yahoo that showed the broken levees made mw think that they did not look like storm dammage. The levees bay the Garden district would be just as vulnerable to breaking but they did not. I also noticed that the satalite immagery that I was able to find on the net did not show certain areas of uptown. I had a family member there in the unsown area at the time, who’s phone miraculously did work, when verry few other phones did work. I will also remark that it is verry suspicious that manny 504 area code cell phones do not work, when all they should need is a good tower and a signal. The only thing is I don’t know if you can say this is only about Black people - perhaps it is about poor people, but not just blacks. Unfortunately the majority of poor people in New Orleans are blacks. They are also under educated, and New Orleans’ public school system was underfunded and really sucked. I know this because I used to live there. I moved because I didn’t want to live in a city that was below sea level. I rather think we would be better off if Katrina had hit harder and turned New Orleans into a lake. At least then it would be able to support wild life and the government couldn’t f* with it so much.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 23 - 07:28 - Posted by 42402eeb80fec84b...

you think it is unfortunate that katrina didn’t completely destroy n.o? well, rita’s coming to finish the job!!



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Tuesday September 20 - 02:59 - Posted by 03b39d01724f44c2...

First things first, anyone who STILL cannot in this day and age SEE’ past that damned idiot box and into what is REALLY going on, might as well find some HIGH GROUND’ and jump the fuck off!. PLEASE OPEN YOUR MIND AND YOUR HEART!. get educated and prepare yourself mentally and you should be alright. AND TURN OFF THAT DAMN TELL LIE (TO YOUR) VISION!!!!




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Thursday September 22 - 03:21 - Posted by c1391105c8555600...

I’ve never seen such a bunch of crap before. First, get your facts straight - the areas that were flooded were inhabited by both blacks and whites. If you look at the demographics of all the areas flooded in the New Orleans metro area - including Chalmette in St. Bernard Parish, there are probably more whites displaced and without homes than blacks. Additionally, there were many areas of the city that were not flooded, and guess what? Poor blacks live in those areas as well.

As far as contractors being shot, that is not true. What did happen is that a car load of black looters tried to hold up a van of contractors to the Army Corps of Engineers who were heading to the Industrial Canal to work on the levee breach. The LOOTERS not the CONTRACTORS were shot by police. The incident did take place on the Danzinger Bridge, and if you bothered to look at a map of New Orleans, goes over the Industrial Canal, not the 17th Street Canal. If you checked the facts, there were several levees that failed, including the 17th Street Canal, the London Canal and the Industrial Canal. The Danzinger Bridge is nowhere near the 17th Street Canal, and the 9th Ward is on the other side of town from the 17th Street Canal.

And of course people heard explosions. What kind of sound do you think occurs when a levee breaks, a "snap".

Blowing up levees to save New Orleans DID occur during the 1927 flood. Now every time there is a flood or a levee break people come up with these theories that it was done on purpose. But guess what? In 1927 poor whites were flooded our of their land in St. Bernard and Plaquemines Parishes.

But you don’t care about the facts do you?




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 30 - 04:54 - Posted by 74f9a558338c59fa...

The 17th street canal levee breach flooded Lakeview.........an area of New Orleans that is about
95% WHITE , not black. I should know....i grew up there and have many friends still living there. The houses where flooded up to the roofs. This conspiracy theory is crazy. The Industrial Canal breach flooded the predominately African American lower ninth ward district AND St Bernard Parish whose population is about 75% WHITE. So not only is this theory absurd, the writer doesn’t even have the facts about which canal breach flooded which area. It seems as long as we can encourage suspicion, paranoia, and hate, then facts don’t really matter. PEOPLE died......of all races and ethnicities.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 30 - 04:59 - Posted by 74f9a558338c59fa...

The 17th street canal levee breach flooded Lakeview.........an area of New Orleans that is about
95% WHITE , not black. I should know....i grew up there and have many friends still living there. The houses where flooded up to the roofs. This conspiracy theory is crazy. The Industrial Canal breach flooded the predominately African American lower ninth ward district AND St Bernard Parish whose population is about 75% WHITE. So not only is this theory absurd, the writer doesn’t even have the facts about which canal breach flooded which area. It seems as long as we can encourage suspicion, paranoia, and hate, then facts don’t really matter. PEOPLE died......of all races and ethnicities.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 30 - 05:05 - Posted by 74f9a558338c59fa...

The 17th street canal levee breach flooded Lakeview....an area whose population is 95% WHITE, , not Black. I should know, I grew up there and still have friends living there. The Industrial Canal breach flooded the predominately Black lower 9th ward area and the predominatley White St. Bernard Parish. PEOPLE died....of all races and ethnicities.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday September 30 - 05:06 - Posted by 74f9a558338c59fa...

The 17th street canal levee breach flooded Lakeview....an area whose population is 95% WHITE, , not Black. I should know, I grew up there and still have friends living there. The Industrial Canal breach flooded the predominately Black lower 9th ward area and the predominatley White St. Bernard Parish. PEOPLE died....of all races and ethnicities.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Sunday October 2 - 01:36 - Posted by 864b09a2ff36b8fd...

OUR NATION USA IS NOT FOR HELPING BLACK PEOPLE THE WHITE MAN GOT US HERE AND DO NOT GIVE A DAMM ABOUT US.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday October 7 - 21:57 - Posted by 2fa9a10d011272df...

"Among the most telling anomalies pointing to something terribly afoot is the gun battle, killing 5, that occurred....."
I love how CT’s ignore the fact that confusion reigns supreme during a crisis, and People Sometimes Get The Story Wrong! Many of the initial reports were error filled. But then, why let common sense get in the way of a good myth huh?

"Blackhawk helicopters were being stopped from dropping sandbags to plug the levee soon after it breached."
They were stopped because they were wasting their time. The water was rushing in with more than enough power to wash the sand bags away as soon as they were dropped. They had to wait till both side equalized.

"Mr. Johnson lives in a neighborhood where the flood has subsided and his home is not heavily damaged yet FEMA wants him out!"
There is no DRINKING WATER. There is no FOOD. There is no ELECTRICITY. The HOSPITALS are closed.

Your politics are yours. I just don’t understand why you are so willing to look as foolish as you do by presenting these allegations/myths/annecdotes/ as FACTS. I would submit that you would be better off talking about how you would like to see the world work, rather than publish crap about people you oppose. This "conspiracy" you (and others) are trying to lay out here just doesn’t make sense. IF they had some sinister agenda, there are much cheaper ways to do it. Why give themselves such an international "Black Eye" with the bungled response?

You do yourself and your readers a dis-service by puting this junk online. Remember that having an agenda means that you should also keep "Okhams Razor" in mind at all times. It can be a real credibility savior.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Friday October 14 - 23:37 - Posted by 03b39d01724f44c2...

I think this is so rediculous. I can not believe that anyone would really think this. If the whites were trying to "purge" the city of blacks don’t you think they would have protected the area by the 17th Street Canal. It is primarily upper class whites that live in that area. It is not the whites fault so to say that some blacks are poor, it is their own fault for not getting up and making something for themselves. It is as if instead of doing something to better yourself you choose to let the Governament take care of you and blame your unhappiness on everyone else. Stop trying to blame what happened on everyone and start thinking realistically, it was a hurricane...a natural disaster. That is what broke the levee and nothing more....get over it.




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Monday February 19 - 04:36 - Posted by 2a949caadd5e21eb...

I don’t know what to think. People going on back and forth pointing the finger at the eachother. You have to be opened minded about the situation and look at it from both perspectives. People can’t input anything if they haven’t experienced it. It seems like the ones always having some negative comments to say aren’t the ones in the streets of New Orleans and who’s life has been affected by it. Its called ethnocentrism formally know as looking outside the box. so stop looking from the outside in, and start trying to put yourself in their shoes. And for those who don’t know the facts please leave your ignorant comments where you got them. What we all do know is since our president George Bush has been the leader of this great nation some unusual and tragic events have occured. This being one of them and 9/11 being the second. On the 2008 presidential election, make your voice heard and vote because as you know history repeats itself, and this is one history we do not want to ever witness again.



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Wednesday November 23 - 17:03 - Posted by ed578150df347697...

I lived a few blocks from the 17th street canal levee breach on Avenue A inbetween 36th & 38th streets. This area is called "Lakeview" & is one of the only completely WHITE areas of New Orleans. So, I think your theory of eliminating the blacks from the New Orleans population through this levee breach is completely incorrect! If that was the case this levee would have been spared & only the London Ave & Industrial canal levees would have been brached. I’ve got a simple idea....why don’t you do some research before you spread more rumors!




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Monday December 12 - 06:13 - Posted by 51b293d5e4d66ae2...

I wanted to write about 10 minutes ago but I had to stop laughing first. I’ve lived about a mile from the 17th Street Canal for most of my 39 years. Your theory is totally preposterous. It is factually wrong, poorly written, based on rumor and inuendo, and is simply a conspiracy-laden bunch of clap-trap.

Of the bodies that have been identified as of Dec. 10th at the temporary morgue at St. Gabriel, which has since been moved to Carville, 46% are black, 42% are white, and 12% are of other races. If you can add better than you can write a column, more non-black people have been identified among the hundreds of bodies that have gone through the morgue.

The breaches at the 17th Street Canal, no matter what side the breach would have occurred on, first affected New Orleans’ only predominantly white neighborhood. Water eventually made it’s way into Old Metairie, flooding an all-white area with the second highest per capita income in the state.

I could go on but this isn’t worth wasting any more time over since anyone with first-hand knowledge of the situation realizes this was written for urban legend purposes.

P.S. You may want to start with this sentence and work your way through with your English teacher to correct the errors: It now appears that a sophisticated plan was implemented that utilized the "cover of a hurricane" to first destroy and than take over the City of New Orleans?




> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Sunday December 18 - 06:08 - Posted by ff59c07d777383a4...

What you have said here is interesting to say the least.

"It seems that a well laid out plan was put into effect to grab valuable real estate from well established but poverty stricken Black families of New Orleans? What is being implemented now is nothing less than a sophisticated scheme to purge and ethnically cleanse what Whites have termed "Black and ’welfare bloated’ New Orleans."

Unfortunately, the Industrial Canal breach is by the lower ninth ward is where the " "Black and ’welfare bloated’ New Orleans." families are mostly located.

The 17th street canal breach is right where the most prominent white families with money reside in New Orleans. The families by the 17th street canal make up 56% of the New Orleans tax base.

I saw a news report concerning the two breaches where a resident of the lower ninth ward said that the Industrial canal breach was done on purpose, and that the 17th canal breach was fixed, but not the Industrial canal breach because "we’re poor"

Well the semantics of the situation are very diverse. This is because the 17th street canal is a drainage canal. It is not very wide and it runs into town and to Jefferson highway. It drains rain water from streets.

The industrial canal however, connects the Lake to the Missippi river and the Intercoastal waterway which connects to the Gulf of Mexico. The intercoastal waterway allows for barges and ships to traverse the lake , River and Intercoastal water way. The ships can only travel in certain areas of the lake because the lake in general is only about 15 feet deep in certain areas, except where lanes were dredged for shipping. The Industrial canal was dredged deep for shipping.

The 17th street canal was dredged to be a drainage canal, not to hold ships.

The 17th street Canal breach was temporarily eaisly fixed by using sheetpile to close off the end of the 17th street canal, which then facalitated the ability to repair the canal.

However, there is no way to close off the industrial canal with sheet pile because of it’s depth. Plus you would have to close it off at the Lake, and at the Mississippi River and Intercoastal Waterway ends of the canal. Otherwise water comes from either direction.

There is no point to flooding the richest part of the city and the poorest part of the city in essence wipeing out the upper and lower class, unless it was a conspiracy to allow the Middle class to become the only class in the city.

The upper rich white families who make up the most of the cities tax base took it just as bad in devestation as the poor people. There were people in that area that did not get out and drownd. Partly because they didn’t believe they would ever flood. I attended two churches church in that area know as Lakeview. One church Lakeview Christian Center, I attended in the 80’s to mid 90’s and the other from about 95 to 2001. Both of these churches buildings took on 15 feet of water or more. Therefore any one story houses in the area were devastated.

I have a friend who grew up in Lakeview. She curently lives in Jefferson Parish. Her Mother and brother still lived in the house that she grew up in located in Lakeview. Because their house was destroyed, the Mother and brother now live with my friend in a one bedroom condo. It’s basically a one bedroom apartment. I’ve been in my friends condo. It’s very tight and hard to move around in, because my friend collects things. So many things that it smothers theis bacically one bedroom apartment. Not much of a condo.

My Friends Mom and Son each have a suitecase with about three pairs of cloths in them. The mother sleeps in the same bed with her daughter (my friend) and the brother sleeps on the couch. No one is happy that this has happened.

I guess the Middle class justs wants to grab all of the land, or there really was no avoiding this situation that God allowed to happen.

Did the government move fast enough? Probably not, were there mistakes made? probably yes. Did anyone think that this wa going to happen after Katrina had already passed by the city? No. The first sign was that New Orleans missed the damage of the storm.

People give up the bitter fight of enuendo’s rumors and strife, and lets just focus on rebuilding New Orleans from scratch as it was done from the beginning. Obviously New Orleans was not built the way it was overnight, It can’t be rebuilt overnight either. It will take time and alot of sweat equity by people who want it to be rebuilt.

Some people are complaining that the Mexicans are comming in to rebuild and taking Jobs from the locals. Some of these people complaining were of the lower class. Well it seems that after a Jessie Jackson left the city to with two busses to bring back 200 black new orleans residents to do work, He returned with 200 blacks, but only 50 of the 200 were from New Orleans. He found that the Blacks didn’t want to come back. They don’t want to come back and get work. If they come back and work, they would have a greater impact on the city and how it will continue to thrive, and they wouldn’t be poor from returning to do work.

Rob



> The Great New Orleans Land Grab-The 17th Street Canal levee was breached on purpose
Thursday August 24 - 20:12 - Posted by b62a355b6e997365...

This is horrible and very distrubing. If the levees were breached on purpose...God help us all. The people NEED to know the truth, one thing is for sure...that which is done in the dark will come out into the light.







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