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The London-Washington Axis Called Into Question

by : fidelista
Saturday January 7, 2006 - 03:15
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> The London-Washington Axis Called Into Question
Saturday January 7 - 04:33 - Posted by a669440ce22632b9...

Fidel, what is the point of this far too windy diatribe? What if Great Britain wants to be an ally of both Europe and America? That is possible, you know. There are no sides to choose here.

We live in a unilateral world Fidelista. This idea that the entire int’l community is moving in lock step and America is out there on it’s own is complete rubbish. The foreign policy of China and Russia is far more unilateral than Americas. You think China’s going to go to the UN and ask for a vote if they decide to invade Taiwan? Most recently China threatened to abolish the sister city status of Liverpool with Shanghai. What was Britain’s crime? They allowed the Dalai Lama to come visit their country. But Britain got off easy, simply because of their importance in the world. Smaller countries get much rougher treatment from China for the same infraction in the form of official economic sanctions and denial of access to China’s markets. Hmmm... using economic sticks to threaten countries into submitting to your way of thinking — one would almost call that a bully, wouldn’t they?

Then there’s Russia that has racked up a body count in Checheya that’s impossible to count at this point. What was the date that Russia went to the UN to ask for help in dealing with Chechneya, Fidelista? I forget.

Oh, and most recently it was EUROPE that balked at a multilateral trade agreement at the WTO, wasn’t it? This coming from the pontificating Kyoto Treaty signers themselves.

Sorry, Fidel, your artithmetic doesn’t add up. Britain is and will continue to be a staunch US ally, and the US will continue to be a staunch ally of Europe. We’ve got tens of thousands of our dead soldiers over there to prove our loyalty to the Continent. Europe (including Britain) and America need each other, and we’re going to need each other even more in the coming years. So, let’s all stand around the campfire and sing Kumbaya. Enough with this side-choosing nonsense.




> The London-Washington Axis Called Into Question
Sunday January 8 - 00:04 - Posted by 949979e7a386d267...

Your views are not held by a large number of Britons. They would be ridiculed by an even larger of Europeans who are fed up of the continued US occupation of their sub-continent.

The pretence of the "special relationship" is upheld by the two-party (really one-party) Labour-Tory oligarchy and is coming increasingly into question by Joe Public. The days when the Yanks were seen as ’liberating’ heroes are long gone and you had better get used to it.

When the present economic crisis becomes so serious and the US dollar is in its final, mortal struggle, Britain’s nation of shopkeepers will have to decide whether it is going to allow itself to go down with its precious ally or allow the Europeans to throw it a life-saver.

During that time don’t expect the Brits to hold any further romantic illusions about where its future lies!



> The London-Washington Axis Called Into Question
Sunday January 8 - 02:58 - Posted by a669440ce22632b9...

Your comments aren’t backed up by any op polls I’ve seen in Britain, Fidel. Britain is the largest investor in America right now, and Europe is certainly in the top 5. Our economy’s are interdependent, so you better be careful in wishing ill for the American economy. The trade surplus Europe enjoys with America that helps fund the generous welfare programs would evaporate. Then who would Britain turn to to "bail them out" as you put it?

My prediction is the growing economic power of Asia and uncertain military power of China will create a challenge for the West — not necessarily a threat. While economic ties will be forged with Asia, the cultural, historical, and political ties for Europe will gravitate to America. The main issue is the values we share. China is run by a corrupt oligarchy of authoritarian leaders. Europe will find it difficult to form extremely close relations with them, regardless of economic interests.

So a lot of Briton’s hate Bush. So what? They hated Reagan too, and all the same things were said about him. European and British leftists have historically demonstrated an intolerance for American conservative politicians. It’s not enough to disagree, they have to demonize, insult, and vilify. In America, we call that intolerance, and Eurolibs are guilty as charged.

The alliance is bigger than Bush or Blair. I have nothing but contempt for Jacques Chirac and French politics in general, but France has proven to be a valuable ally in Afghanistan and the war on terror in general.

Brook

P.S. Kumbaya from America!!!






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