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Letter Sent to Joe Lieberman who said Democrats have got to change their ways

by Open-Publishing - Wednesday 18 October 2006
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Wars and conflicts Parties USA Mary MacElveen

Dear Folks,

Below is an email sent to Joe Lieberman. His fax is not working at the present moment, so I will be mailing him this letter. As you will see, I did provide his email address, please feel free to email him too.

Mary!

Joe 2006

Campaign Headquarters

10 Columbus Boulevard

Hartford, CT 06106

Phone: 860.244.2006

Fax: 860.727.9911

Email: info@joe2006.com

To Joe Lieberman, October 18, 2006

I wish to address your comments to the Democratic leaders in Washington, D.C., the day after and with your help, America died. What I am referring to is when Bush signed into law, ‘The Military Commissions Act of 2006’ which will allow him to decide if someone is to be tortured, and arrested without due process of law. It also protects people like him from war crimes. All of this happened with your help, so don’t you dare lecture Democrats.

You stated that they have got to stop ‘partisan politics’, but in the words of your friend, George W. Bush, I say “Bring em on!” Let us see the real differences between candidates and hopefully and with God’s mercy on all of us, Democrats will retake both houses and will show a clear difference between both parties. You see, the GOP is the party of the rich and powerful and the Democrats if they have learned anything is the party of John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. who focused on the poor and working class Americans. The latter group has been left out for far too long and we scream out for our voices to be heard in this despotic dictatorship.

We also want yours and Bush’s illegal invasion of Iraq by an occupying force to stop period! Notice that I did not call it a war, because there was NO formal declaration of war, only a resolution which is similar to a poll being taken. How many more must die for you and Bush, Joe? The casualty rate for our soldiers is now over 2,770 soldiers and the death count suffered by the Iraqis is now being reported at 655,000 which your friend rejected, but a number I believe to be true.

When you stated “It won’t represent a progress that is real” should the Democrats take back control of congress, exactly what progress has your friend, Bush and his party given America? It has given us all the death and destruction of what once made us the land of the free and the home of the brave.

My Democratic congressman, Tim Bishop has shown to me and others what true leadership is all about. He has never once compromised his values which are my values. He has consistently voted in congress as he promised in his previous campaigns. He has demonstrated the clear difference and that is why I support him. The other night at a campaign debate, I was proud of him in demonstrating this difference. I know, Tim Bishop and in these last few weeks, he will get my help.

If anyone is the problem, it is people like you, Joe who just do not get it and never will. I truly hope and pray to God that Ned Lamont trounces you at the polls. Then with a Democratic congress, we can reclaim what is left of America which is not much at this point.

Rest in peace, America,

Mary MacElveen

PS: This letter to you will be going out to others and will be posted on my blog at http://www.marymacelveen.com

http://www.marymacelveen.com/blog/_archives/2006/10/18/2425837.html

Forum posts

  • Writing to Lieberman, hahahaha, good luck, why exactly would he want to "change his ways"? Do you have several hundred grand to spend? Millions perhaps? I would love to see the Democratic party become the party of The Constitution, an area where the Republicans by and large (with a few exceptions) have sold out. Including "the poor", however one defines that, is fine, but why not champion JUSTICE and true freedom, at the same time, things the Middle can relate to, and Independents, and honest Conservatives. AS an Independent who believes these oil wars have been set up illegally, I could easily support a Constitutional Democrat, like perhaps a Feingold ticket if the left could muster a TRUE constitutional Populist that respected the rights of those who have sacrificed much to get where they are, with the rights of all.

    • Yes, of course, and after the Democrats’ miraculous transformation from cowardly syncophants to brave protectors of the Constitution, from parasitic opportunists to Knights of the Republic, we will soon see pigs flying out of Lieberman’s ass.

      The likelihood of either two-faced party’s leadership changing their ways is as remote as anyone of us winning Power Ball.
      If we truly are the great nation we pretend to be, then there should be tens of thousands of Americans out there who can fill this vacuum of leadership that this two-faced party system has left us with. To call what these vermin have done to our country ’leadership’ is to betray total ignorance of the word as well as total ignorance of how much our nation has been ruined by them.
      If we cannot fill this vacuum of leadership very soon, then we don’t deserve to be called great and we don’t deserve to have a democracy which for all practical purposes no longer exists here in the USA.

      This isn’t Rocket Science, there is no physical law in nature that demands that an American must adhere to one of these corrupt and TREACHEROUS parties. But before we can go any further we really need to flush these worms down the tubes come November.
      Keep track of the faithful few Congressmen, the Ron Pauls, and Senators like William Feingold and a mere two dozen others after them.
      The rest are fucking game, as far as I’m concerned, and should be treated like the traitorous vermin that they have so amply proven to the world, time and time again, to be.

    • Just because you disagree with Joe Lieberman calling him and his fellow congressmen traitors is way over the line. This is the sort of overheated rhetoric that most Americans deplore and it is why I continue to support George W. Bush and continued Republican contol of Congress because the alternative you propose is so unpalatable.

    • There is NO DOUBT 9-11 was AN INSIDE JOB! ANYONE Dim or REpug who hides this obvious MURDER of over 3000 of their fellow citizens is a TRAITOR PERIOD!!! Lieberman KNOWS and is as gutless as those other INSIDERS. America deserves better!!!

    • You need to have your head examined. This isn’t rhetoric, moron, it’s the truth. Pull your head out of your ass.

    • To 70.119. This is not overblown rhetoric, dear camp follower of Senator Lieberman. May I suggest to you that you re-read the Bill of Rights and the definition of Habeas Corpus that follows. Then read the link I’ve provided for you below that describes this betrayal of our freedom: the Military Commissions Act. Hey, if you’re too lazy to do your homework, I’ll help you out. You need to be re-educated about your own civil liberties.

      Unpalatable, huh? You write like a staff member of the Senate, a brainwashed goon with a timid mind and no imagination. Unpalatable only to the powers that be, unpalatable to the talking heads on CNN and MSNBC, unpalatable to the frightened. There are millions like me, sir or madam, so I highly suggest that you pull your gullible head of your godforsaken ass.
      Read and weep:

      Bill of Rights

      Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression
      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
      Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms
      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
      Amendment 3 - Quartering of Soldiers
      No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
      Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure
      The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
      Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings
      No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
      Amendment 6 - Right to Speedy Trial, Confrontation of Witnesses
      In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
      Amendment 7 - Trial by Jury in Civil Cases
      In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
      Amendment 8 - Cruel and Unusual Punishment
      Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted
      Amendment 9 - Construction of Constitution
      The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
      Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People
      The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

      Habeas corpus
      Lat. "you have the body" Prisoners often seek release by filing a petition for a writ of habeas corpus. A writ of habeas corpus is a judicial mandate to a prison official ordering that an inmate be brought to the court so it can be determined whether or not that person is imprisoned lawfully and whether or not he should be released from custody. A habeas corpus petition is a petition filed with a court by a person who objects to his own or another’s detention or imprisonment. The petition must show that the court ordering the detention or imprisonment made a legal or factual error. Habeas corpus petitions are usually filed by persons serving prison sentences. In family law, a parent who has been denied custody of his child by a trial court may file a habeas corpus petition. Also, a party may file a habeas corpus petition if a judge declares her in contempt of court and jails or threatens to jail her.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act_of_2006#Applicability_to_U.S._Citizens

    • Because I disagree with you I need to be called a moron and told to pull my head out of my ass? Thanks for proving my point, people can disagree civilly without overheated rhetoric. I’m sure you are a lovely lady just incredibly uncivil and uncollegial.

    • Take off your pink glasses, fellow friends Americans. You can only support Bush living where you live, without looking at what happens in the ’other’ world. Come back to reality please, and leave rhethoric to the politicians, who will always have something to eat, a place where to sleep, means of transport, the best of comforts, money to spend.... and a couple of tears in the pocket to show up when needed.
      The world needs you, if real peace (peace for all) is what we are all after.

      Love,

      Antonia

    • 70.119: It is because of your congenital gullibility that you remain a moron. Your type believes in any transparent lie as long as the powers that be package it in the red, white and blue.
      A person that incredibly gullible cannot possibly value their own intelligence, their freedom or their very lives. In a word you are a garden variety moron, I am quite sorry to say.

      Apparently you belong to the remaining moronic 8% percent of the American population that still believes in ’staying the course’ with this demented and treacherous President you so obviously worship.

      By the way, there is another reason why I call you a moron, sir. Apparently you are confusing me with Mary MacElveen. This is typical of fascist morons who cannot find their way around a blog, if their lives depended on it.
      You won’t look the way I look, either, you stupid son of a bitch, unless you like very ugly, good sized (6’1", 230 pounds) grizzled, male US Army veterans, who know their way around sad sacks of shit like yourself.

      Let’s just say that most Americans like myself find gullible, empty-headed cheerleadiers like yourself to be revolting and disgusting, and leave at that.

  • What I see it that the EU will be under Islamic Law in about 10 to 20 years. By then the Euro Trash will get what they deserve. By then everything you think will be proved meaningless.

    • In 10 to 20 years however, unless U.S. citizens act to stop this fascism that the Neo-Con Nazis are imposing on America, Islamic Law may seem tame comparitively. The Bush Cheney Fascists and their criminal followers and cheerleaders have one agenda really to secure the middle east oil fields at ALL costs and they have shown they will destroy and kill anything and everything that gets in their way if they are not stopped.

    • Where is all this hatred for the ’Euro Trash’ coming from, mon ami?
      Is it because you are All-American ’White Trash’ and so powerful that we lowly Europeans must tremble and pay tribute to you are your other White Trash hordes? Apparently all of us Europeans are non-white nations to your pathetically small mind.
      If so, did you powerful Americans invent the ’white’ race?
      Also, mighty member of the All-American White Trash tribe, are you itching to kill Europeans now that your ’little’ war in Iraq is going so badly for you and your fascist friends?
      Do you and your white trash kind wish to have a war with Europeans as well as Muslims?
      Good hunting, asshole.