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Conyers to Object to Ohio Electors, Requests Senate Allies

by : William Rivers Pitt
Friday December 31, 2004 - 02:09
7 comments

Representative John Conyers, ranking minority member of the House Judiciary Committee, will object to the counting of the Ohio Electors from the 2004 Presidential election when Congress convenes to ratify those votes on January 6th. In a letter dispatched to every Senator, which will be officially published by his office shortly, Conyers declares that he will be joined in this by several other members of the House. Rep. Conyers is taking this dramatic step because he believes the allegations and evidence of election tampering and fraud render the current slate of Ohio Electors illegitimate.

"As you know," writes Rep. Conyers in his letter, "on January 6, 2005, at 1:00 P.M, the electoral votes for the election of the president are to be opened and counted in a joint session of Congress. I and a number of House Members are planning to object to the counting of the Ohio votes, due to numerous unexplained irregularities in the Ohio presidential vote, many of which appear to violate both federal and state law."

The letter goes on to ask the Senators who receive this letter to join Conyers in objecting to the Ohio Electors. "I am hoping that you will consider joining us in this important effort," writes Conyers, "to debate and highlight the problems in Ohio which disenfranchised innumerable voters. I will shortly forward you a draft report itemizing and analyzing the many irregularities we have come across as part of our hearings and investigation into the Ohio presidential election."

There are expected to be high level meetings with high ranking Democratic officials next week to coordinate a concerted lobbying effort to convince Senators to challenge the vote. The Green Party and David Cobb, as has been true all along, will be centrally involved in this process, as will Rev. Jesse Jackson.

The remainder of the Conyers letter reads:

3 U.S.C. §15 provides when the results from each of the states are announced, that "the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any." Any objection must be presented in writing and "signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received." The objection must "state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof." When an objection has been properly made in writing and endorsed by a member of each body the Senate withdraws from the House chamber, and each body meets separately to consider the objection. "No votes...from any other State shall be acted upon until the (pending) objection...(is) finally disposed of." 3 U.S.C. §17 limits debate on the objections in each body to two hours, during which time no member may speak more than once and not for more than five minutes. Both the Senate and the House must separately agree to the objection; otherwise, the challenged vote or votes are counted.

Historically, there appears to be three general grounds for objecting to the counting of electoral votes. The language of 3 U.S.C. §15 suggests that objection may be made on the grounds that (1) a vote was not "regularly given" by the challenged elector(s); and/or (2) the elector(s) was not "lawfully certified" under state law; or (3) two slates of electors have been presented to Congress from the same State.

Since the Electoral Count Act of 1887, no objection meeting the requirements of the Act have been made against an entire slate of state electors. In the 2000 election several Members of the House of Representatives attempted to challenge the electoral votes from the State of Florida. However, no Senator joined in the objection, and therefore, the objection was not "received." In addition, there was no determination whether the objection constituted an appropriate basis under the 1887 Act. However, if a State - in this case Ohio - has not followed its own procedures and met its obligation to conduct a free and fair election, a valid objection -if endorsed by at least one Senator and a Member of the House of Representatives- should be debated by each body separately until "disposed of".

A key legal aspect of this is the second clause referenced in the letter. Rep. Conyers and the other House members involved do not believe the electors have been lawfully certified. They believe that there has been too much illegal activity on the part of Blackwell, other election officials, and Republican operatives on the ground and therefore, as stated in the letter, the electors were not "lawfully certified" under state law. Next week, the House Judiciary Committee Democratic staff will release the report referenced in the letter, which is now still in draft form, and which led Mr. Conyers to this decision.

The Senators who shall receive the greatest focus from Conyers in this matter are Biden, Bingaman, Boxer, Byrd, Clinton, Conrad, Corzine, Dodd, Dorgan, Durbin, Feingold, Harkin, Inyoue, Jeffords, Kennedy, Kerry, Lautenberg, Leahy, Levin, Lieberman, Mikulski, Nelson (FL), Jack Reed, Harry Reid, Rockefeller, Sarbanes, Stabenow, Wyden and Obama.

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> Conyers to Object to Ohio Electors, Requests Senate Allies
Friday December 31 - 05:11 - Posted by 558275d79cbc6320...

Most of democrat senators seems to chicken out. Barbara Boxer seems reluctant. Let’s see who can stand up. Kerry may not have the courage or may be ’politically incorrect’, I do not know.

Well write to your Senators.

Senators Info:
http://www.senate.gov/general/conta...

House of Representatives:
http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWW...




> Conyers to Object to Ohio Electors, Requests Senate Allies
Saturday January 1 - 19:59 - Posted by ed65b3ee739bf8a5...

In my opinion the focus should narrow to Obama and Durbin of Illinois and Feingold of Wisconsin.
Forget about Lieberman, Kerry, and other DNC puppets.

David Johnson
Champaign, IL



> Conyers to Object to Ohio Electors, Requests Senate Allies
Saturday January 1 - 22:10 - Posted by a76047084e7b3b61...

The election is over, Bush won as he should have, get over it.



> Conyers to Object to Ohio Electors, Requests Senate Allies
Sunday January 2 - 04:12 - Posted by 27d621ecda67e3c6...

The election is over, Bush cheated as he always does, go fuck yourself.



> Conyers to Object to Ohio Electors, Requests Senate Allies
Sunday January 2 - 07:42 - Posted by 1056d54b699cad69...

NO... WE WILL NEVER GET OVER "IT"



> Conyers to Object to Ohio Electors, Requests Senate Allies
Monday January 3 - 23:02 - Posted by d4402e8ab2f988c9...

the people of germany 1935- 1940 got over it and look what happened



> Conyers to Object to Ohio Electors, Requests Senate Allies
Monday January 3 - 19:51 - Posted by fc5a2be817d90a72...

Yes, I certainly agree that now is the time for our Senators to call for investigation into illegal activities regarding the election. At least in the state of Ohio. Of all of the Senate, surely there is one good person who is willing to stand up for what is clearly right. I will always question this lection, as will millions of others around the world. In order to hold any appearance of integrity, our government must show a willingness to follow through on possible election problems.

I would suggest also that attention be given to certain Republican Senaors: Specter, Hagel, Maccain . . . those who seem to know that something smells rotten in Denmark.






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