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31 December 2004, 14:32
As an American, I do understand the perception that we are attempting, as a nation, to be world dictators and I’m sensative, as are most non-government affiliated Americans, to these concerns by others. I have respect for those who make their points against our actions...though I will admit it is difficult to respect comments when nothing substantive is mentioned in the reasoning. But what should be understood, I feel, is that what we’ve done as a nation lately has been little more than reversing our mistakes from recent history. I’m going to get off topic here a bit, but I’d really like to say what needs to be said...take the UN, for example. This is an organization put together to supercede the needs and wishes of the world’s super powers in an effort to dissuade countries from attempting to run roughshod over the world. While the principal idea behind this is a good one, in recent years, this organization has not done its job. If, as many suspect, the US’s circumvention of the UN had been an effort to allow for more control in world matters for the sake of domination, one could assume that we’d have pulled away altogether from the organization. Rather, we’ve decided that the status quo, as it was, could not be tolerated any longer. Sanction after sanction came down on Iraq, but there was no accountability. Reason: because lots of people, mostly in the UN, stood to lose a lot of money if Iraq was legitimized. This is corruption of the grandest scale...a world body charged with defending all the world’s peoples becoming puppets to a despotic regime for the sake of the almighty dollar. As with most other beurocracies, this top-heavy organization has become overrun with corruption, special interests and in-fighting. Unfortunately, this has led to an decreased sense of accountability to all those criminals and rogue regimes out there...they now have nobody to answer to. Well, the US has simply said that this is not the case. A leap of faith may need to be taken to understand that the US has no sights on world conquest. Fostering democracy is a totally different animal than acquiring foreign lands. No leadership structure has been put into place outside of the US military in either Afghanistan or Iraq. In fact, if you look at the Afghan situation, we have little if any influence on the government process as it is today. I reckon Iraq will be the same way, if and when we ever get the nation stabilized. We’ve learned lessons from the past....Russia’s mishandling of their Afghan war led to a power vaccuum which indirectly cost thousands of free human beings their lives....previous mistakes made in the first Iraq war led to the slaughter of thousands of Muslims who had railed against Saddam. This had to be done right, and it has been, by-in-large. Unfortunately, it is a tough decision and a rough situation. Clinton, if y’all remember, was too concerned with public opinion to make these tough decisions in the best interest of the world at large. For 8 years he threw money and misinformation at his problems...he just wanted them to go away, but was not willing to make them do so. Bush has been willing to put his neck on the line without wavering...his message is and has been consistent with his actions, and this should not be lost in the translation. We have no visions of world domination...we have visions of world freedom and world peace. To those who say they don’t want freedom, I say they’ve never truly experienced it. I’m no right-wing zealot nor am I a conservative Christian...but I voted for Bush, because as far as politicians go, he does what he says he’s going to do REGARDLESS of public backlash. If he breaks the laws, international or otherwise, he should be punished. But he hasn’t yet, which should tell y’all something.
Back to the point of this discussion thread....your theory about Russia’s motivation for a very accute display of force are good. While I maintain that I believe this was a natural earthquake, it is interesting that Russia has been very silent on the matter. I would wager a good amount of my salary that the Pentagon is busy discerning geologic evidence leading up to the earthquake to ensure themselves that this was, indeed, a natural occurance. It is clear that the technology has been in development and that there is intent from both the US and Russia in creating these types of weapons, but, as I said, I hesitate to accuse either side of such atrocities since neither has a history of such cold-blooded murder, regardless of what is said by the America-haters out there.
As an American, I do understand the perception that we are attempting, as a nation, to be world dictators and I’m sensative, as are most non-government affiliated Americans, to these concerns by others. I have respect for those who make their points against our actions...though I will admit it is difficult to respect comments when nothing substantive is mentioned in the reasoning. But what should be understood, I feel, is that what we’ve done as a nation lately has been little more than reversing our mistakes from recent history. I’m going to get off topic here a bit, but I’d really like to say what needs to be said...take the UN, for example. This is an organization put together to supercede the needs and wishes of the world’s super powers in an effort to dissuade countries from attempting to run roughshod over the world. While the principal idea behind this is a good one, in recent years, this organization has not done its job. If, as many suspect, the US’s circumvention of the UN had been an effort to allow for more control in world matters for the sake of domination, one could assume that we’d have pulled away altogether from the organization. Rather, we’ve decided that the status quo, as it was, could not be tolerated any longer. Sanction after sanction came down on Iraq, but there was no accountability. Reason: because lots of people, mostly in the UN, stood to lose a lot of money if Iraq was legitimized. This is corruption of the grandest scale...a world body charged with defending all the world’s peoples becoming puppets to a despotic regime for the sake of the almighty dollar. As with most other beurocracies, this top-heavy organization has become overrun with corruption, special interests and in-fighting. Unfortunately, this has led to an decreased sense of accountability to all those criminals and rogue regimes out there...they now have nobody to answer to. Well, the US has simply said that this is not the case. A leap of faith may need to be taken to understand that the US has no sights on world conquest. Fostering democracy is a totally different animal than acquiring foreign lands. No leadership structure has been put into place outside of the US military in either Afghanistan or Iraq. In fact, if you look at the Afghan situation, we have little if any influence on the government process as it is today. I reckon Iraq will be the same way, if and when we ever get the nation stabilized. We’ve learned lessons from the past....Russia’s mishandling of their Afghan war led to a power vaccuum which indirectly cost thousands of free human beings their lives....previous mistakes made in the first Iraq war led to the slaughter of thousands of Muslims who had railed against Saddam. This had to be done right, and it has been, by-in-large. Unfortunately, it is a tough decision and a rough situation. Clinton, if y’all remember, was too concerned with public opinion to make these tough decisions in the best interest of the world at large. For 8 years he threw money and misinformation at his problems...he just wanted them to go away, but was not willing to make them do so. Bush has been willing to put his neck on the line without wavering...his message is and has been consistent with his actions, and this should not be lost in the translation. We have no visions of world domination...we have visions of world freedom and world peace. To those who say they don’t want freedom, I say they’ve never truly experienced it. I’m no right-wing zealot nor am I a conservative Christian...but I voted for Bush, because as far as politicians go, he does what he says he’s going to do REGARDLESS of public backlash. If he breaks the laws, international or otherwise, he should be punished. But he hasn’t yet, which should tell y’all something.
Back to the point of this discussion thread....your theory about Russia’s motivation for a very accute display of force are good. While I maintain that I believe this was a natural earthquake, it is interesting that Russia has been very silent on the matter. I would wager a good amount of my salary that the Pentagon is busy discerning geologic evidence leading up to the earthquake to ensure themselves that this was, indeed, a natural occurance. It is clear that the technology has been in development and that there is intent from both the US and Russia in creating these types of weapons, but, as I said, I hesitate to accuse either side of such atrocities since neither has a history of such cold-blooded murder, regardless of what is said by the America-haters out there.