"and obviously believe we should be following the lead set by Western Europe. These governments are largely socialist in the nature of their social programs, though guardedly capitalist in their economies."
You’re right - those commie countries like Switzerland and Sweden are just horrible places with their humane social programs, socialized medicine, legal pot and no massive military industrial complex sucking off the teets of their tax payers. They’re just a bunch of stoned-out hippies I’m sure most Swiss citizens are just dying to get out of that hell-hole and come to America where your Neo-Darwinian-Capitalist vision of the future will make them feel alive and competitive again. Perhaps they can even join in on our "war on terror". By the way, in case you missed it, Iraq had nothing - let me repeat that word - nothing to do with 9/11. Besides, it’s quite obvious that King George would’ve gone in there regardless.
It sounds as though you’re just like most republicans - you’re all for socialism as long as it’s in the form of the US military. Only in the US military is the Marxian cradle-to-grave security setup just fine for republicans. You spit out the words "socialism" and "liberal" without thinking that in many cases, they are two very good things. Can socialism be abused? Absolutely. But so can the unbridled capitalism especially the kind brought on by the Bush administration that you obviously espouse. Enron, with Bush’s close, warm, personal friend "Kenny Boy" is a good example of common capitalist abuses of power. By the way, Kenny Boy’s still not in prison, is he? Wonder why. Nope! No corruption here! Move on now everyone, move on . . . Nothing to see here.
"The tragedy of Vietnam was the loss of will the public experienced to continue to fight against a terrible and dedicated enemy, "
So what you’re saying is we should’ve stuck it out in Vietnam, right? You and Pat Buchanan. The South Vietnamese puppet government we set up wouldn’t fight for their own country. Why should we? This is not a personal attack, but an observation: You *are* insane. Look at Vietnam today - it’s probably got more "capitalism" per square mile than anywhere in the US. Look at the Soviet Union. Oh, that’s right - there is no Soviet Union, and despite you and Ronald Regan taking credit for that, the system did a terrific job of falling apart on its own, thank you.
Are *you* ready to go fight and die in Iraq? How about donating a son, brother, sister or daughter to the cause? Why is it that the people fighting that war - just like the Vietnam war - are the poor families, the ones who can’t find a job in Bush’s deficit-driven, tax-cuts-for-the-rich economy? You first admit - admit!! - that it was a bad move to go into Iraq, and then turn right around and say we should support this bad move? Alright then where can YOU sign up - put your money where your mouth is, pal.
"But seriously, folks, do you people really think you’re the tolerant ones?"
Well, well, let’s look at the right’s record in terms of tolerance. A Christian, white-majority, anti-gay government. Well as long as you fit that criteria, sure. The right’s very tolerant. The republicans running the show now impeached a president because he lied about a question that should never have been asked in the first place. The same bunch of pious, right-wing whiny wind-bags want us to now stop asking questions of this president altogether and just "trust him". Right.
"This hatred of Bush is the only thing the left can seem to actually get behind. "
As if that didn’t happen in reverse when Clinton was president? You’ve GOT to be kidding me. Nice try. You sir, are a hypocrite.
"and obviously believe we should be following the lead set by Western Europe. These governments are largely socialist in the nature of their social programs, though guardedly capitalist in their economies."
You’re right - those commie countries like Switzerland and Sweden are just horrible places with their humane social programs, socialized medicine, legal pot and no massive military industrial complex sucking off the teets of their tax payers. They’re just a bunch of stoned-out hippies I’m sure most Swiss citizens are just dying to get out of that hell-hole and come to America where your Neo-Darwinian-Capitalist vision of the future will make them feel alive and competitive again. Perhaps they can even join in on our "war on terror". By the way, in case you missed it, Iraq had nothing - let me repeat that word - nothing to do with 9/11. Besides, it’s quite obvious that King George would’ve gone in there regardless.
It sounds as though you’re just like most republicans - you’re all for socialism as long as it’s in the form of the US military. Only in the US military is the Marxian cradle-to-grave security setup just fine for republicans. You spit out the words "socialism" and "liberal" without thinking that in many cases, they are two very good things. Can socialism be abused? Absolutely. But so can the unbridled capitalism especially the kind brought on by the Bush administration that you obviously espouse. Enron, with Bush’s close, warm, personal friend "Kenny Boy" is a good example of common capitalist abuses of power. By the way, Kenny Boy’s still not in prison, is he? Wonder why. Nope! No corruption here! Move on now everyone, move on . . . Nothing to see here.
"The tragedy of Vietnam was the loss of will the public experienced to continue to fight against a terrible and dedicated enemy, "
So what you’re saying is we should’ve stuck it out in Vietnam, right? You and Pat Buchanan. The South Vietnamese puppet government we set up wouldn’t fight for their own country. Why should we? This is not a personal attack, but an observation: You *are* insane. Look at Vietnam today - it’s probably got more "capitalism" per square mile than anywhere in the US. Look at the Soviet Union. Oh, that’s right - there is no Soviet Union, and despite you and Ronald Regan taking credit for that, the system did a terrific job of falling apart on its own, thank you.
Are *you* ready to go fight and die in Iraq? How about donating a son, brother, sister or daughter to the cause? Why is it that the people fighting that war - just like the Vietnam war - are the poor families, the ones who can’t find a job in Bush’s deficit-driven, tax-cuts-for-the-rich economy? You first admit - admit!! - that it was a bad move to go into Iraq, and then turn right around and say we should support this bad move? Alright then where can YOU sign up - put your money where your mouth is, pal.
"But seriously, folks, do you people really think you’re the tolerant ones?"
Well, well, let’s look at the right’s record in terms of tolerance. A Christian, white-majority, anti-gay government. Well as long as you fit that criteria, sure. The right’s very tolerant. The republicans running the show now impeached a president because he lied about a question that should never have been asked in the first place. The same bunch of pious, right-wing whiny wind-bags want us to now stop asking questions of this president altogether and just "trust him". Right.
"This hatred of Bush is the only thing the left can seem to actually get behind. "
As if that didn’t happen in reverse when Clinton was president? You’ve GOT to be kidding me. Nice try. You sir, are a hypocrite.