> Madrid Fire Re-opens 9/11 Questions: Why did the twin towers fall so fast?
15 February 2005, 17:00
Did I hear a skeptic talk about thousands of gallons of jet fuel...
Do you need to see the tragedy again? see that big puff of orange, that is your jet fuel. Do you see most of the fuselage coming out the other side and blowing up OUTSIDE of the building. Why did the second tower hit, go down before the first? Surely the raging inferno was hotter in the building hit first no?
How does a building free fall, if the floors are experiencing the popular tin foil hat theory of the "pancake"...c’mon. Boom, boom, boom, floor by floor, with no resistance? perfectly down straight?(which it wasn’t at first-look at the top when it first starts to fall) BOTH BUILDINGS EXACTLY THE SAME? Debris shooting out perpendicular almost 200meters. Where is the fire in the building? Firefighters were still climbing(listen to the audio), didn’t they know about the raging inferno? NO, because there wasn’t one, so they kept climbing.
Take a look inside that hole, do you see an inferno?...and if it went down the elevator shaft, how did people use those to go down?(watch the naudet video) Surely someone on the first floor would of turned on an air conditioner if it was as hot as they say? Everyone looks fine to me, no fires. All of this, in less then a couple of hours? The WTC was built to withstand the impact of the largest plane at that time...I believe it was a 737...but not something slightly larger?
More importantly though, one does not need to look at the twin towers, but WTC7, that is a building similar to both the venezuelan tower(with building codes not updated for decades) and madrid building.
Where’s the raging fire in WTC7? surely you don’t believe it melted just like the others and FELL IN IT’S OWN FOOTPRINT, just like the others. WOW, HOW CONVENIENT FOR THE CLEANUP! POP goes the bush mythology bubble. But even more telling, is silverstein himself, ordering to pull it on national tv. What a dumb phuq. Not to mention the command center they had just built in WTC7(lots of taxpayer money spent-poof, up in smoke).
Same with the towers, allot of paperwork involving corporate crime(enron, worldcomm, etc) went up in the fbi offices in there. If it was retrievable, like the hard drives that were, that show trades being done minutes before the towers went down, we would have some evidence. Where are those hard-drives? The company that had them was bought, and the information recovery was halted...my my, what a wicked web we weave.
Fema doesn’t even want to assert it melted, it’s just a theory for them too.(because they know what a lawsuit and treason is) Oh, now I see why Bush has a hard-on for "frivolous class action lawsuits"...do you? Ellen marianni, sibel edmonds, mary schneider, william rodriguez, and on and on.
Did you watch the video at that link, see the squibs?(smoke tubes shooting out). That looks like a demoltion to me and so does WTC7.
Murder investigation, ask any detective: Motive, Means, Opportunity
Suspect: Bush crime family
Motive: yes. blind nationalism, money, and pre-planned wars(pnac)
Means: Your kidding right? Hell ya.
Opportunity: yes. Bush sits in a chair while patsies do the dirty work.
Suspect: bin laden
Motive: yes. he hates us because our freedom? or because we support imperialism?
Means: NO. 19 hijackers, who never flew 757s, barely had training on cesnas, and intelligence to subvert our billion dollar war machine? No means.
Opportunity:NO. Access to some planes?(most of the hijackers are not even on the flight rosters), dodging ground radar, possible interception from jet fighters, flying off course, and then with no radar(they shut if off remember), they were able to navigate by looking out the window? While bin laden is in a cave somewhere? No opportunity. (oh yeah, don’t forget the dangerous boxcutters they had)
You are either with us or against us. It’s time to draw the line in the sand. You are either part of the coverup or your not. I don’t care either way, I know where my line in the sand is, it’s been crossed and I’m pushing back. I’m a republican, whatever that means anymore, not some wussy liberal, "well, I’m not sure, I mean, it could have, no it can’t be"....face your fears head on, or get behind those who have no fear, be the american you claim to be. Stand up.
The truth was not told to us, we just had the CIA report stating 50+ warnings. sen. Dayton called the norad timeline a lie, because it is, and so on, and so on...there is more evidence against bush then bin laden...and where is bin laden? Making videos I suppose, while we kill in Iraq. I am ashamed and I will never back down untill homeland security makes me dissappear too. I know your listening, I don’t care, because I have nothing to hide...YOU DO.
WTC victims will not die in vain, I don’t care about the victim’s families and "how they feel", we are all victims because of that tragedy. Especially everyone in Iraq. They are dying for a lie.
LIHOP:let it happen on purpose (possible blackmail)
MIHOP: made it happen on purpose
Take your pick, we will never know without an INDEPENDENT investigation. I refuse to live my life in fear and allow a militarized police state to control my destiny. Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness, THAT is the american way, Not death, fear, and sorrow across the globe.
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me."
Martin Niemoeller - concentration camp survivor
Is this where you want to wind up as an "enemy combatant":
Did I hear a skeptic talk about thousands of gallons of jet fuel...
Do you need to see the tragedy again? see that big puff of orange, that is your jet fuel. Do you see most of the fuselage coming out the other side and blowing up OUTSIDE of the building. Why did the second tower hit, go down before the first? Surely the raging inferno was hotter in the building hit first no?
How does a building free fall, if the floors are experiencing the popular tin foil hat theory of the "pancake"...c’mon. Boom, boom, boom, floor by floor, with no resistance? perfectly down straight?(which it wasn’t at first-look at the top when it first starts to fall) BOTH BUILDINGS EXACTLY THE SAME? Debris shooting out perpendicular almost 200meters. Where is the fire in the building? Firefighters were still climbing(listen to the audio), didn’t they know about the raging inferno? NO, because there wasn’t one, so they kept climbing.
Take a look inside that hole, do you see an inferno?...and if it went down the elevator shaft, how did people use those to go down?(watch the naudet video) Surely someone on the first floor would of turned on an air conditioner if it was as hot as they say? Everyone looks fine to me, no fires. All of this, in less then a couple of hours? The WTC was built to withstand the impact of the largest plane at that time...I believe it was a 737...but not something slightly larger?
More importantly though, one does not need to look at the twin towers, but WTC7, that is a building similar to both the venezuelan tower(with building codes not updated for decades) and madrid building.
Where’s the raging fire in WTC7? surely you don’t believe it melted just like the others and FELL IN IT’S OWN FOOTPRINT, just like the others. WOW, HOW CONVENIENT FOR THE CLEANUP! POP goes the bush mythology bubble. But even more telling, is silverstein himself, ordering to pull it on national tv. What a dumb phuq. Not to mention the command center they had just built in WTC7(lots of taxpayer money spent-poof, up in smoke).
Same with the towers, allot of paperwork involving corporate crime(enron, worldcomm, etc) went up in the fbi offices in there. If it was retrievable, like the hard drives that were, that show trades being done minutes before the towers went down, we would have some evidence. Where are those hard-drives? The company that had them was bought, and the information recovery was halted...my my, what a wicked web we weave.
Fema doesn’t even want to assert it melted, it’s just a theory for them too.(because they know what a lawsuit and treason is) Oh, now I see why Bush has a hard-on for "frivolous class action lawsuits"...do you? Ellen marianni, sibel edmonds, mary schneider, william rodriguez, and on and on.
Did you watch the video at that link, see the squibs?(smoke tubes shooting out). That looks like a demoltion to me and so does WTC7.
Murder investigation, ask any detective: Motive, Means, Opportunity
Suspect: Bush crime family
Motive: yes. blind nationalism, money, and pre-planned wars(pnac)
Means: Your kidding right? Hell ya.
Opportunity: yes. Bush sits in a chair while patsies do the dirty work.
Suspect: bin laden
Motive: yes. he hates us because our freedom? or because we support imperialism?
Means: NO. 19 hijackers, who never flew 757s, barely had training on cesnas, and intelligence to subvert our billion dollar war machine? No means.
Opportunity:NO. Access to some planes?(most of the hijackers are not even on the flight rosters), dodging ground radar, possible interception from jet fighters, flying off course, and then with no radar(they shut if off remember), they were able to navigate by looking out the window? While bin laden is in a cave somewhere? No opportunity. (oh yeah, don’t forget the dangerous boxcutters they had)
You are either with us or against us. It’s time to draw the line in the sand. You are either part of the coverup or your not. I don’t care either way, I know where my line in the sand is, it’s been crossed and I’m pushing back. I’m a republican, whatever that means anymore, not some wussy liberal, "well, I’m not sure, I mean, it could have, no it can’t be"....face your fears head on, or get behind those who have no fear, be the american you claim to be. Stand up.
The truth was not told to us, we just had the CIA report stating 50+ warnings. sen. Dayton called the norad timeline a lie, because it is, and so on, and so on...there is more evidence against bush then bin laden...and where is bin laden? Making videos I suppose, while we kill in Iraq. I am ashamed and I will never back down untill homeland security makes me dissappear too. I know your listening, I don’t care, because I have nothing to hide...YOU DO.
WTC victims will not die in vain, I don’t care about the victim’s families and "how they feel", we are all victims because of that tragedy. Especially everyone in Iraq. They are dying for a lie.
LIHOP:let it happen on purpose (possible blackmail)
MIHOP: made it happen on purpose
Take your pick, we will never know without an INDEPENDENT investigation. I refuse to live my life in fear and allow a militarized police state to control my destiny. Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness, THAT is the american way, Not death, fear, and sorrow across the globe.
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me."
Martin Niemoeller - concentration camp survivor
Is this where you want to wind up as an "enemy combatant":
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