> Larry King bumps military mom from show- Are the "news" networks afraid of the truth?
4 February 2005, 02:30
Yes, this would be me. I am the poster and I am very interested in this specific issue. I am not ashamed to question the transitional moment when the attitude changed.
That moment is worth understanding and documenting for future actions and our safety — to try to ensure and realize the decision of that initial moment that led to her grave personal loss.
As the flip side of this coin, had her son came back alive, she would have celebrated. But it still would have left no understanding of the lethal actions and misery that was inflicted onto the opponent. [A whole set of circumstances to document and learn from... Sadly.]
But let me say that I disagree with you on why her son went and because of his going that I didn’t have to go, etc. I don’t believe this is causal; that is, it is independent sets of circumstances that found the poor lad there and dead and why I am here, or my family or my firends or my enemies. It could have been none of us had to go...
It is a mistaken belief that somehow the troops in Iraq are proctecting me here or protecting other [all] Americans. Those chaps are no more than pawns in a deadly game being played for resources and extended conflict with another civilization/population.
As an aside: I am finding that this cobflict will be extended and other families will experience such losses from playing into this "cheerleader" [if you will] thinking.
Getting back to my two opening sentences: Had Mrs. Sheehan and her son [et al] had not looked upon this with a certain amount of cheer and mistaken belief of doing good, it may have prevented this death and other deaths — Both Iraqi and American. And who knows, Mrs. Sheehan’s son may have gone to land on Mars as the first human. But whatever potential this young man had will be no more. Ever.
So, in some respects, in a meta-physical sense, her and her son’s early cheerleading [if you will] contributed to her [and our] curret state. It is a shame that we cannot back track in time and take another path from the point that led to failure. Had they not found "comfort" in the lies that were presented then; had they looked not only to the lies but the underside of those lies, then certainly things may have been different.
My intent is to understand this and write about it and perhaps have others understand it and also teach me of their understanding, then perhaps, we may not find ourselves doing the bidding for those responsible for such loss of lives.
And yes, I am sure my question(s) will sound callous. But it is a point that I think is worth exploring to better understand the human situation — lest we repeat. Collectively, far into the future, some humans may start to understand and take more a critical view of what their leaders are saying as a result. It is, however, only a small, small, chance that this will happen. But, I believe, we must try.
Thank you for your contribution. If you care to, please refine my thinking with follow ups.
Yes, this would be me. I am the poster and I am very interested in this specific issue. I am not ashamed to question the transitional moment when the attitude changed.
That moment is worth understanding and documenting for future actions and our safety — to try to ensure and realize the decision of that initial moment that led to her grave personal loss.
As the flip side of this coin, had her son came back alive, she would have celebrated. But it still would have left no understanding of the lethal actions and misery that was inflicted onto the opponent. [A whole set of circumstances to document and learn from... Sadly.]
But let me say that I disagree with you on why her son went and because of his going that I didn’t have to go, etc. I don’t believe this is causal; that is, it is independent sets of circumstances that found the poor lad there and dead and why I am here, or my family or my firends or my enemies. It could have been none of us had to go...
It is a mistaken belief that somehow the troops in Iraq are proctecting me here or protecting other [all] Americans. Those chaps are no more than pawns in a deadly game being played for resources and extended conflict with another civilization/population.
As an aside: I am finding that this cobflict will be extended and other families will experience such losses from playing into this "cheerleader" [if you will] thinking.
Getting back to my two opening sentences: Had Mrs. Sheehan and her son [et al] had not looked upon this with a certain amount of cheer and mistaken belief of doing good, it may have prevented this death and other deaths — Both Iraqi and American. And who knows, Mrs. Sheehan’s son may have gone to land on Mars as the first human. But whatever potential this young man had will be no more. Ever.
So, in some respects, in a meta-physical sense, her and her son’s early cheerleading [if you will] contributed to her [and our] curret state. It is a shame that we cannot back track in time and take another path from the point that led to failure. Had they not found "comfort" in the lies that were presented then; had they looked not only to the lies but the underside of those lies, then certainly things may have been different.
My intent is to understand this and write about it and perhaps have others understand it and also teach me of their understanding, then perhaps, we may not find ourselves doing the bidding for those responsible for such loss of lives.
And yes, I am sure my question(s) will sound callous. But it is a point that I think is worth exploring to better understand the human situation — lest we repeat. Collectively, far into the future, some humans may start to understand and take more a critical view of what their leaders are saying as a result. It is, however, only a small, small, chance that this will happen. But, I believe, we must try.
Thank you for your contribution. If you care to, please refine my thinking with follow ups.