Burn in hell, Mr. President

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• 15 November 2005, 00:22

  I thank you for expressing thoughts regarding GWB and his gang of thugs, who have raped this country, lies, stole the lives our young men and women and murdered thousands in Iraq.

  Used WMD on those people, including the results will show up on our own
  as the weapons they used were toxic and will destroy health of those who come home with wounds that resulted from invasion of Iraq.

  bush makes his little trips to hurricane sites, makes his trips around the world trying to smirk his way into making us believe Iraq was a removal of Saddam for to free the Iraq people, We all know its OIL< Bases to be built so he can control and strike other countries on his phoney god trip.

  God will punish him, what goes around will come around and he will feel the wrath of hell. bush and his phoney group will all be there for the fire of hate that will be brought upon them
  their own deeds of lies, cover ups.

  Hail to a New Born Again America may we have leadership that we can have respect for.

  It will not be Guilatini , McCain, for sure not rice who has proven she lies also to cover bush.

  Democrat party if they want to be elected they better stand up and have a plan of action to bring this rotten war to a end.

  Its not the party name is the people who sit in the part that make the policies, from where I sit, the republicans have done a grand job of destroying what they use to stand for.

  Dem. lets get a life and start showing you mean business.

  • 15 November 2005, 02:28

    As publisher of this article, here at Bella Ciao, I so agree with your sentiments. What the US needs, now, is nothing less than another revolution: non-violent (despite all the violence used by the state) and democratic. Not only the USA but the whole planet.

    It seems that it is the Americas that are giving the rest of us the inspiration. What Bush and his sidekick Blair represent are very likely to be among the final obstacles to a world which is desperate for revolutionary change. And by revolutionary I mean spiritual as well as material.

    Even according to the laws of the capitalist world both Bush and Blair are war criminals. If the capitalist world should choose to ignore their transgressions just because they happened to be the ’victors’ then it will be undermining its own laws and weakening its own legitimacy.

    Just as the Simon Wiesenthal Centre continued to track down Nazi war criminals decades after the end of WWII both Bush and Blair should be pursued to the end of their days; not only that they should be impeached but that they should find themselves in the dock as the world’s greatest terrorists and war criminals.

    Let that day arrive soon!

  • 15 November 2005, 03:01

    I agree a revolution is needed. This government was taken over a looooong time ago. Don’t look for the Democrats to bail us out. The political parties Repub. and Demo. are really one party to the Elite. The Hegelian Trap they give the illusion of a 2 party system when in reality it’s one party. The left / right paradigm.
    "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegence and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government , to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt buisness and corrupt politics is the first task of the statemanship of today." Theodore Roosevelt 1906

    " The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profit, or so dependent on its favors, that there will be no opposition from that class. The great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending, will bear its burden without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests" Rothschild.
    NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM

  • 15 November 2005, 14:46

    You people are clueless beyond belief.

    President Bush is in place because the American public wants him to be there. He is conducting the war because the American public wants war. There is a viseral need for war to satisfy the blood-lust that is part of most every White American against Muslims and Arabs. This core hatred is ringed by other hatereds for the Africans, Indians, the French, and so on, but it is never anything but hatered.

    It does not matter that a few might extend the hand of friendship to other nations and other peoples.

    What this leadership is doing is no less and no more than what other American past leadership has done — going to the founding of the nation, if you like.

  • 15 November 2005, 16:07

    If there is justice, let it be so that Bush and his handlers and minders suffer and perish like Mussolini and his ilk, publically and the sooner the better.

    Bush is not there because some Amerikkkans wanted him. Elections are rigged and people like Bush are in power as long as they do the bidding of their true masters, the super elite who own and operate the banks, the corps, the media, the defense industry, in other words the post industrial neo-con neo lib complex. Amerikkkans who think they voted for him are hopelessly deluded.

    You are right about the hatred though. Many Amerikkkans get off on it, cross race,cross ethnicity with whites leading the pack. It is the divide and conquer game burned into the brains of all children everywhere from the first invasion into the USA by Euro trash militaries, their colonizing scum pilgrims and their intelligentsia. Lie, kill, cheat and steal is the Amerikkkan way.

    GG

• 15 November 2005, 16:46

  This is the most vile website I have ever visited! I’d like to see you spew these sentiments in the face of those who lost loved ones in 9/11. We are in Iraq because we were attacked and the worst possible thing that could happen is a terriost getting his hands on a nuclear weapon. If a dictator acts like he has weapons of mass destruction he better be prepared for what could come next!

  • 15 November 2005, 18:45

    You are a fool. Iraq did not attack you or yours. Perhaps some Saudi’s did or perhaps your own government did. History will tell. Your rulers want all resources of the middle east and the wealth that comes with controling the Middle East.
    The dictator with WMD’s of whom you speak is your prez & co and his minders.

    Grow up boy, these things must indeed be said to those who have been duped into serving in the imperialist military and their families.

    JBD

  • 15 November 2005, 22:38

    I agree that BushCo reflects a lot of what America (or anybody with unchecked power) is about. Our system of checks and balances failed. Asking for a revolution now is suggesting there is a quick solution. There isn’t. It might be better if we try to change things around starting from the current situation. If we succeed we’ll have strengthened our institutions of democracy and civil liberties. I say this while at the same time being utterly dark minded about what is going on. But maybe I can see light at the end of the tunnel after having accepted the worst:

    Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989 the USA is by far the strongest guy on the block. People like Cheney, Perle, Bolton realized this and felt they had to take advantage. In 1997 they organized in the PNAC, Project for the New American Century. Their stated goal is to dominate the world by military means. In 2000 they grabbed power. From American Free Press:

    The 90-page PNAC document from September 2000 says: “The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.”

    “Even should Saddam pass from the scene,” the plan says U.S. military bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will remain, despite domestic opposition in the Gulf states to the permanent stationing of U.S. troops. Iran, it says, “may well prove as large a threat to U.S. interests as Iraq has.”

    A “core mission” for the transformed U.S. military is to “fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars,” according to the PNAC.

    The strategic “transformation” of the U.S. military into an imperialistic force of global domination would require a huge increase in defense spending to “a minimum level of 3.5 to 3.8 percent of gross domestic product, adding $15 billion to $20 billion to total defense spending annually,” the PNAC plan said.

    “The process of transformation,” the plan said, “is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.”

    American Free Press asked Christopher Maletz, assistant director of the PNAC about what was meant by the need for “a new Pearl Harbor.”

    “They needed more money to up the defense budget for raises, new arms, and future capabilities,” Maletz said. “Without some disaster or catastrophic event” neither the politicians nor the military would have approved, Maletz said.

    So far American Free Press.

    They were in a hurry and dead serious and so created their own Pearl Harbor, i.e. 9/11. It took me four years to get convinced, but a mountain of evidence that 9/11 was an inside job is out there: 911truth.org stopthelie.com. I am a physicist and seeing those towers perfectly pancaking down is on first sight mysterious. This is especially the case for Building 7.

  • 16 November 2005, 07:35

    Well if this is the most "Vile website’ you have ever visited, I would suggest you go to one that shows burned and broken bodies of children that have been murdered for oil, Empire and Israel there should literally be TENS OF THOUSANDS!!!

    Iraq NEVER attacked us, they never would have, everyone on earth seems to realize this (but apparently you,) the WMD were bullshit forged eveidence to enact a plan of new american century "values" on the world of the 21st century planned way BEFORE 9-11 (which incidentally was hatched from forces wanting to get INTO Afghanistan and Iraq. Wake the Hell up. Vile my ass. Truth apparently hurts.

    A worse thing that could happen is that the SAME people who wanted the U.S. to go into Afghanistan and Iraq for resources and bases and heroin, and that fomented the anthrax attacks for crushing oppostion to that through the anti-patriot ACT may need more cover to commit even more crimes and may well ATTACK AGAIN. Their polls are at rcord lows and they will do ANYTHING to promote their fascist Agenda over freedom loving Americans and the world. You have been CONNED. NEo-CONNED to be more specific.

  • 17 November 2005, 01:57

    Wake up, you ignorant soul! People who think the way you do, are a minority. We, the USA , are the terrorist nation of the world, but you will never know.

  • 17 November 2005, 13:38

    The people who lost loved ones in 9/11 hate this demented President more than these journalists, lobotomite. Many are still battling wrongful death lawsuits against the US government, over 4 years after the attacks. More & more evidence is coming out that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job, making this President the most vile, treacherous leader in US history. You need to pull your head out of your ass, now, and truly look at what’s happening. Americans want the truth, and what this administration has been doing throughout its tenure is very much the opposite. If there is any world leader who has proven that he can do whatever he wants with weapons of mass destruction its your ’beloved’ piece of shit Bush, who has allowed the use of napalm, white phosphorous and depleted uranium on innocent Iraqis. Bush has killed as many Iraqis as Saddam Hussein. So much for exporting ’Democracy’.
    Who’s the greater evil? Someone who pretends he is a moral leader that respects the rights and lives of others, but back stabs those same rights and lives every chance he gets, [like your ’beloved’ piece of treacherous shit] or someone who is totally upfront with his depravity, such as Saddam? Give me honest scum any day, at least we know who are up against when we fight honest scum.
    America is finally sick and tired of the murderous hypocrisy that is represented by you and your neofascist ilk. It’s about time.

  • 20 November 2005, 06:11

    Dear Friend

    No its you dim wit who is mistaken, 9/11 was carried out by your own Government there is plenty of proof to back all of us up, its you who is the fool. Iraq had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 go on prove it did, where did all them suicide bombers come from? none from iraq thats for sure.

    As for what you have to say about ths site, we wont miss you if you dont come back :)

  • 22 November 2005, 00:53

    Dear Conspiracy Theorists,

    In reality, there is not a single shred of evidence to back up the concept of 9/11 being an inside job. All of the "evidence" is easily countered with logic, common sense, and a basic understanding of physics and engineering. Indeed, much of the evidence consists of anecdotal material harvested from emails and blogs, and retold again and again until it becomes "fact". A perfect example of this phenomenon is the often repeated story of Mohammed Atta’s passport being found intact in the 9/11 rubble. It wasn’t. But you can’t keep a good conspiracy theory down, and so the Atta myth continues to be treated as fact and "evidence". My notes contain 248 9/11 conspiracy myths effectively countered.

    Larry

  • 22 November 2005, 05:28

    What you may fail to realize is that the majority of ’conspiracy theories’ are what are spun out of the types of tax payer supported propaganda endlessly streaming out of Washington.

    For some reason Sheeple are trained to believe every lie the Fed tells is ’fact’ and every thing contrary to that as ’conspircay theory’. Nothing could be further from the truth. GOVERNMENTS CONSPIRE CONTANTLY as does ORGANIZED CRIME! Never forget that.

    The conspiracy theory that fewer and fewer Americans are buying into goes something like— some depraved bearded nomads hiding out in caves in Afghanistan (who just conveniently are living next to Caspian oil and gas resereves, that groups like Unocal etc. have lusted for for years) came to America and trained at facilities in JEB Bush’s state, couldn’t even fly a light plane well, but managed to do a maneuver that would make any expert pilot jealous, crashing into the first floor (but not disturbing the lawn) of the most WELL protected building on the face of the earth The Pentagon, while leaving no wings no major evidence, all the while conveniently leaving a Koran and a flight manual in their trunk (gotta love that one) while some spooks were betting on which airline to sell short, Why brother Marvin Bush was making sure that *security* was right on time at the twin towers and just to make sure he was going to hire a head FBI investigator that was looking too hard at the terrorist network and had to be removed from that job and placed in a job as head of security the Day of 9-11, only to be found dead in the rubble.... etc. etc. etc. We could go on for hours here.. Visit Alex Jones at Infowars or prisonplanet

    That someones wanted to get INTO Afghanistan and Iraq to control OIl (PNAC CRIMINALS) and get Iraq back on the Euro is much more plausibale than Al-CIA-da done it ’cuz they hate our freedum". BUllshit. BUSH hates our freedom, with his anti_patriot act fascism, he is going to stage another attAck if his polls dont go up and AmericA THIS time will be READY!!!

  • 24 November 2005, 17:00

    An interesting rant but incorrect nonetheless. Your list of anomolies supports my previous assertion - most of your points have already been countered with logic and reason. The Pentagon tragedy is one of my favorite examples. So many "experts" to tell us there wasn’t enough wreckage. Such utter nonsense - it perplexes me when I think of otherwise intelligent people falling for these delusions. Conspiracy theories are fun, I suppose, and that’s what keeps them fueled. It’s more fun, for example, to believe that alien spaceships are visiting the Earth, than not. I confess - I wish it were true. My point is, alien visitation + 9/11 coverups = the same thing. Of course, you’re not "with it" unless your hating George Bush, the Republican party, and America in general. And that’s what makes the 9/11 delusions a whole lot more fun.

     Larry

  • 24 November 2005, 17:44

    The only delusions now are the constant stream of lies and conspiracy theories spewing from the Oval Oriface and all of the criminals that reside there. Bin Laden ’did it’ cause he "hates our freedom.’ Hahahahahahahahahah. what a conspiracy theory. Few thinking people buy into that one any more. Clearly WTC 7 was imploded. Why was Silverstein working for the ’terrorists" when he attacked his own building by pulling it? And was that spaceship the one that left the copy of a Koran and a flight manual in the trunk of the alledged hijackers car.(gotta love that one) BUSH MURDERED HIS OWN PEOPLE and no amount of conspiracy theories that the White House can use can cover for this OBVIOUS crime! Arrest this man and let’s stop allowing terrorists to run America.

  • 24 November 2005, 19:38

    Are your conclusions based on original first hand research? Field investigations? Forensics analysis? Witness and survivor interviews? If so, then you have my admiration and attention. Or was your knowledge of the subject collected from websites, blogs, and cocktail parties? If so, then you are indirectly stressing my point.

    Happy Thanksgiving! (or am I supposed to say that sort of thing here...?)

  • 24 November 2005, 21:55

    You are a big fool. let me guess male, white, republican, and age 55 to 65 years old. STUPID beyond belief. Get your head out of your ass and look at the mountain of evidence DUMBASS.

  • 24 November 2005, 22:55

    Larry Silverstein who had lease control of the WTC complex is quoted in the 2002 PBS documentary America Rebuilds as saying:"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire, and I said’We’ve had such a terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.’ And they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

    This news footage still exists on the net and one shouldn’t have too hard a time finding it. Also one can find at the site I link to much much more info. You seem though to have already made up your mind no matter how much direct evidence there is out there of WTC demolitions that like many simple minded Sheeple whatever the Fed BS story is at the moment anything else must just be "conspiracy theory". Nonsense. WTC7 was DEMOLISHED and logically if it fell at the same speed as the twin towers and had preexisting charges placed then that should alert any astute investigator to the Big Fed Lies surrounding the whole 9-11 Deadly Charade on The American People. But for some reason I get the impression you already know all of this and you are here simply to obfuscate. Regardless. I’m sure other readers would like to follow the links, learn more, and come to their OWN conclusions regarding how forces INSIDE or own government were COMPLICIT in the Attack on THEIR OWN PEOPLE. We can though simply take the lies One by one by one and see where they go, shall we, perhaps it can be a great learning procedure for all. Let’s just take the case of WTC7. If you have different evidence as to why WTC7 just ’fell down’ please present it, I would enjoy hearing YOUR ’coincidence theory’.

    Let’s take a look shall we: (Oh and by the way Happy Thanksgiving, hope your enjoying your Turkey) ;)

    http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread9875.html&sid=dcf32724d6c3890884675c5f1895d392

  • 24 November 2005, 23:00

    Instead of losing control, and playing into my hands, read my post again and think about it....where does your information come from? Firsthand investigation or blog? It’s a simple question can you answer it?

     Larry

  • 24 November 2005, 23:30

    So let’s say WTC7 was demolished with intent. It begs the question - why? Why not stop at the north and south towers? Why take additional chance destroying the smaller building when the spectacular destruction of the twin towers would be cause enough to enable President Bush to embark on his "evil" rampage of conquest? On another note, if the FDNY did decide to demolish WTC7 for safety reasons, where does that fit into a federal conspiracy plot? If anything, it points to a local coverup of a local decision.

    If I see an object in the sky that I cannot identify, should I automatically assume it’s an alien spacecraft? Of course not - it’s simply an object that I cannot identify. But it’s this same tunnel-vision logic that is driving this laughable 9/11 conspiracy nonsense.

     Larry

  • 24 November 2005, 23:46

    "can you answer it?"

    Possibly. But then you have to agree to answer a question. Can you do it?

  • 25 November 2005, 00:16

    I don’t really think anyone’s laughing ,Larry about the 9-11 devastation. Vist the 9-11 Truth Movement site and LEARN. You simply take the Bush/Cheney LAUGHABLE account of 9-11 and claim it’s somehow the truth just because Bush decreed it so. It is SO full of obvious bunk I don’t see how any reasonable person cannot SEE they have been NEO_CONNED! Take some time to visit that link I posted.

    You have to keep asking the question WHO really were the ones to gain financially. Silverstein definately benefited and is going to collect a HUGE profit on his investment— And brand new buildings without having to pay for asbestos cleanup from the former ones.The Energy companies that wanted to get into Afghanistan for the Caspian oil and gas, and had just months before 9-11 been locked by failed negotiations with the Taliban--- are now going to have many of our friends and family as military protectors for these interests to open up a new market. The Neo-Cons definately gained political power just as they so openly predicted with their "New Pearl Harbor". The military industrialists will rake in BILLIONS, the Israel Lobby will be delighted as most likely cut in on the OIl deals. WHO BENIFITS?

    Who didn’t benefit? Obviously the Taliban and supposedly Bin Laden they had the very LEAST to gain from any 9-11 attack and it makes no strategic sense that they would (or even COULD fly a jet airliner into the first floor of the most highly protected building on the planet) giving their enemy the PERFECT excuse to invade and ’coincidentally’ be able to steal their gas and oil resources as was ’coincidentally’ even planned way BEFORE 9-11.

    BUt the list is endless to fully support this False Flag thesis and if you were really interested you would have done your own homework. You REALLY have to be a coincidence theorist to think all of these illogical things just happened to give the forces INSIDE this country just exactly what they had been lusting for openly for some time. A real coincidence theorist.

  • 25 November 2005, 00:27

    Fair enough...

  • 25 November 2005, 02:01

    Thanks for the generous post. I think what you’re doing though is plotting geopolitical points to fit the theory that George Bush did it. This is the same phenomenon behind the ridiculous Bible Code hoax. The Bible "code" will work with most *any* book because of the sheer number of possible word combinations. What I’m trying to say is that you can take any event or, in this case, tragedy, and build a story to fit. Using this concept, the trail of guilt could lead anywhere you desire.

    Understanding the relationship between coincidence and random events requires an understanding of the Law of Very Large Numbers. I remember seeing a cute little list - maybe you saw it too - of things surrounding the 9/11 event that added up to 20 (9+11) and other 9/11 number coincidences. There were so many of these number coincidences that it seemed almost supernatural. But, of course, it was the Law of Very Large Numbers at work.

    While some 9/11 conspiracy points are well made, it is not reasonable to use as evidence of a conspiracy the idea that "Bin Laden had the least to benefit". Not really a fair debating point due to its vagueness and assumption of Bin Laden’s motives. Did he gain from his other terrorist attacks? He thinks so. I’m sure he was flabergasted when the towers fell. To paraphrase his own words - "I expected a portion of the buildings to collapse, I never expected a complete collapse". The full context of that remark and other obvious admissions of guilt can be seen and heard on a videotape released in 2002. Similarly, the point made regarding items found in a terrorists car trunk, as noted in a previous post, is also unacceptable as evidence. To be a valid conspitatorial point, it would have to be *impossible* for these two items to have been found in the trunk. While I’m on the subject, the idea that UBL and his organization could not have carried out the attacks makes the assumption that it would be *impossible* for them to carry out the attacks. Difficult, yes - very. Impossible though?

    So I’m saying, yes - there is a lot of coincidence involved. There’s also a lot of misinformation and misinterpretation. Combine all that with point plotting to fit the story and a segment of people who really *want* to believe, and we have George Bush, Evil Conquerer of the world.

    I know you think I have a closed mind. But remember, the burden of proof is on the conspiracy theorists. I have less obligation, in this exchange of words, to have to prove my point to you - that 9/11 was carried out by known anti American terrorists - which is, from a logical standpoint, the more likely scenario. You, on the other hand, believing the more outlandish and complex story - that 9/11 was carried out by the government in order to clear the way for imperial conquest - need to present genuine evidence to make your case. Saying "there were no airliner parts at the pentagon crash site" would not be an example of genuine evidence since there *were* airliner parts at the pentagon crash site. Or maybe my vision is failing me? No, I’m not old enough for that - they were airliner parts.

    Instead of referring to me as "dumbass", try to understand that I believe, with great conviction, that there are serious holes in the 9/11 conspiracy as currently presented. I’m not trying to make enemies here, and I apoligize if my previous posts were sarcastic in tone - I wish only to present an opposing viewpoint.

    Enough for me tonight - I’m going to shower and relax on the couch with my lovely girlfriend. Tomorrow is Black Friday, and being the retail capitalist pig that I am, I’m going to need my rest.

    Goodnight all from New York Larry

  • 25 November 2005, 02:29

    Larry said" Remember the burden of proof is on the conspiracy theorist".

    Sure, but remember Bush’s ’bin laden did it cause he hates our freedom’ conspiracy theory is no more valid than the George Bush did it because he hates our freedom conspiracy theory, or military industrialists, or Zionists or etc. If one starts with the assumption that just because some in our government claim their own innocence (falsely perhaps like Watergate or Iran Contra) we see and can expect that much info is often suspect. One has to approach a crime scene like a crime scene and ask the right questions, like who had the best motive, the best opportunity, the most to gain, what does the actual physical evidence say, pictures wreckage etc. was it examined or kept from being examined, were officials cooperative about really getting to the bottom of 9-11 or did they highly evade and fail to examine the most important evidence, what are the ties to any possible acomplices of 9-11 who were invloved in investigating it ,did they stand to gain or lose by getting to the bottom of 9-11. ec. etc.

    Do you know the answers as you have weighed all of the evidence yourself? Or you just believe what spews out of FAUX News state-run media.

    So what is the mountain of evidence you have that Bush’s account is so believable? His *honesty* perhaps persuades you such as with his brilliant WMD lie???

  • 25 November 2005, 02:39

    Oh, and no offense but perhaps your vision IS failing you, I don’t recall myself calling you or anyone else a ’dumbass’, but I think I did see a post next to mine that did. Anyway... as you say better get some rest, and take it easy on the ’eyestrain’. :) Outa here....

  • 1 January 2006, 05:03

    logic and common sense are the tools of fascist lackeys. power to the peepul!

• 20 November 2005, 19:43

  I don’t believe a revolution is in order. Justice is in order. If you read the constitution and go back to its principles (with the readjustments as to slavery -13th amendment), you have a very rightous piece of work. It’s the complete lawless behavior of the powerfull elite that has caused a Federal Reserve to steal your money by printing worthless paper whenever they please, and the falsely ratified 16th amendment allowing taxing the labor of our citizen’s (though the supreme court has continually ruled the 16th didn’t change the constutution’s taxing authority) that funds an out of control federal government’s fancy for going to WAR. The constution specifically gives the federal government and not the states the sole right to "coin" money, and only gold and silver shall be legal tender. There has never been an amendment to change this so the Federal Reserve (a private elite-not gov. agency) is illegal. Your federal taxes were necessary to pay the interest on the (worthless paper) the government borrows from these "bankers". The issuing and borrowing of worthless paper money has put us all in debt (to the private bankers) so that the pork barrel in the fed gov. never runs out. We say we are a society built on the rule of law and then issue patriot acts that nullify the constitution, have supreme court justices (scalia, et al) bribed to install a president, hide a real investigation of a president’s assination (JFK), his brother’s assination (Bobby K.), his son’s assasination (JFK jr.), an investigation into 911 (a coverup), Enron, School of the america’s (a terrorist training camp in georgia), Bush senior and Clinton,s Drug importing and selling, the Cia’s selling drugs (Gary Webb’s book), Iran Contra conspiracy and Bush senior involvment (as well as Raegan’s). The list goes on and on and the common thread is a conspriracy by the media to remain silent and a judicial system that refused to hear cased and or rules without regard to the law. If we refused to pay taxes, demanded the Federal Reserve be elimated and not pay any debt to them, get rid of media who refuses to honor the public trust by not giving all the news and get rid of corrupt judges (dawson in irwin shiff’s trial) maybe we could hold our heads high. Humanity is flawed and the US is full of unconsious people who think killing someone who has never done anything to us is ok simply because the media says they did (without any proof whatsoever). W.C. Fields said it, a sucker is born every minute. The evil is everywhere but so is the good. It’s sad that a few rotten apples spoil the bunch.

• 20 November 2005, 21:21

  67.***.76.*** You are why Bush gets away with it. Now the people of the world know how Bush was reelected, it’s because of people like you that America is in this mess in the first place. You believe everything those liars say. Walter Cronkite spoke of you when he said "the republic is in danger because the people are too dumb to vote".. Well something like that. I think he was talking about you. I would like to thank you for ruining this country. Why are there so many retards around here?
  Gigi, knock it off you know that only in America are all races part of the whole, nowhere else on earth is like it....But you choose to make everything about race when it’s not. We don’t like foreigners just like you....lol
  GLB

  • 25 November 2005, 18:14

    Karl Rove, Big Ol’ Fag Conspiracy Planet - Media s - Karl Rove Seen at Homosexual Orgies in Washington Walter Storch, editor of the Barnes Review News reported three weeks ago that "Karl Rove was seen by one of my people entering a private homosexual orgy at a five-star Washington hotel over the Mid-Atlantic Leather (MAL) weekend last year." [2004] A Barnes reporter told Storch that "Karl greatly enjoyed the supervision of a certain hairy 350-lb. Leather Dominator who had won the Miss Virginia Daddy Bear title at the MAL festivities."

  • 26 November 2005, 22:33

    IMO if one is to be TRULY honest, as an American, one has to give up any illusions that their own nations government acting at the will of Fascist or other equally totalitarian minded groups, once out of the control of The people, won’t attack it’s own citizens. History simply shows over and over and over "absolute power — corrupting absolutely." The only question in my mind is not now if Bush and the Cabal knew (or even participated) (I’m absolutely convinced every scrap of evidence when weighed as a whole shows what we might call the PNAC Alliance and their promoters to have been the MOST likely force behind 9-11 attcks on NY).

    The question rather I am simply left with now is: Was it simply or MAINLY for BushCheney/Neo-COn oil/gas/industrialist/military bases/ Euro -stopping/ Israeli interests at the EXPENSE of America???
    OR----
    Is America REALLY now in ECONOMIC DANGER from market forces and was this percieved or sold(to the Insiders) as a way to SAVE America? And if so not to DEFEND this but does this have any validity if one was thinking along the lines of Greenspan and "war as economic stimulus) If the latter it’s hard to believe,because when one looks at the economic forces it seems they REAL Banksters The Reserve Folks and their backers would love nothing more than to try and CASH IN like they do every so many decades. This potential coming ’downturn’ seems to be a RESULT of this Administrations policies added I might add on to the back of policies fo the last 75 or so years, IMO.

    When thinking about these Neo-Con (and their backers) Wars for resources and power one should keep these things in mind, if one only looks at the WMD excuses or "promoting freedom/capitalism" reasons— I don’t think they will be able to really put all of this lust for WW3/4 in perspective.

• 18 December 2005, 21:22

  Communists are alive and well I read.