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Priests to Purify Site After Bush Visit

by Open-Publishing - Saturday 10 March 2007
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Mayan priests will purify a sacred archaeological site to eliminate "bad spirits" after President Bush visits next week, an official with close ties to the group said Thursday.

"That a person like (Bush), with the persecution of our migrant brothers in the United States, with the wars he has provoked, is going to walk in our sacred lands, is an offense for the Mayan people and their culture," Juan Tiney, the director of a Mayan nongovernmental organization with close ties to Mayan religious and political leaders, said Thursday.

Bush’s seven-day tour of Latin America includes a stopover beginning late Sunday in Guatemala. On Monday morning he is scheduled to visit the archaeological site Iximche on the high western plateau in a region of the Central American country populated mostly by Mayans.

Tiney said the "spirit guides of the Mayan community" decided it would be necessary to cleanse the sacred site of "bad spirits" after Bush’s visit so that their ancestors could rest in peace. He also said the rites — which entail chanting and burning incense, herbs and candles — would prepare the site for the third summit of Latin American Indians March 26-30.

Bush’s trip has already has sparked protests elsewhere in Latin America, including protests and clashes with police in Brazil hours before his arrival. In Bogota, Colombia, which Bush will visit on Sunday, 200 masked students battled 300 riot police with rocks and small homemade explosives.

The tour is aimed at challenging a widespread perception that the United States has neglected the region and at combatting the rising influence of Venezuelan leftist President Hugo Chavez, who has called Bush "history’s greatest killer" and "the devil."

Iximche, 30 miles west of the capital of Guatemala City, was founded as the capital of the Kaqchiqueles kingdom before the Spanish conquest in 1524.

– http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...

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  • Why does the anti christ, the facist, the murderer and slaugtherer and the symbol of inhumnanit dare to visit us.

    • bush is all that and more, however, lest we forget the Maya have an incredibly blood soaked and savage history that can NEVER be washed clean.What is that quote about casting the first stone? I must take issue with the "migrant brothers" BS though. We have MILLIONS of people who are here illegally, full stop. If you don’t respect a country’s laws, you have no respect for that country. They’re NOT immigrants. They don’t plan to live here. They simply want to loot my country six ways from Sunday and split with the cash. As for bush being against their "migrant brothers", that a*&hole has done everything he can to roll out the red carpet for them!

    • "The the Maya have an incredibly blood soaked and savage history that can NEVER be washed clean"? Oh let me guess; this must be a Christian speaking. As for casting the first stone, please see:

      http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible3.htm

      http://dim.com/~randl/tinq.htm

      http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm

      Christianity has an incredibly blood soaked and savage history that can NEVER be washed clean. Two thousand year history of intolerance and oppression and it is time for us Pagans to fight back, and send the genocidal Asian god back to Asia, where he belongs. I’m sick to death of hearing it from self-righteous and self-flagellating Christians with their pathetic sob-story about being born in sin. Hey, if you’re born in sin, please feel free to crucify yourself, and bloody good riddance.

    • ewwww....good job! ^5

    • For the record, I’m Wiccan not that it is gemain in any way to what I said. I cannnot stand bush, but the Maya are just as bad in their own way.

    • LOL,,!!!

      That beats all a Mayan talking about killing....LOL

      This was a great one///

      USA is number one...always

      Bush did it!!

  • I respect the Maya a great deal more than I respect bush OR christianity. The Mayan people had been victimized by christianity for since Colombus got lost and wound up in this hemisphere.

    Give that site an extra blessing for the future. Perhaps you could invoke Tlaloc to rain on bush’s 98,000 acre ranch in Paraguay for the next 10 years.

    • 'Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience. . . Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem.'--Howard Zinn

      Can George W. Bush Be Purged?
      Mayan priests purified their sacred land after Shrub scurried off. Can we do the same?
      By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

      Friday, March 16, 2007

      Sage is always good. Or maybe lavender. Pine is nice, too. Dried, bundled, tied with string, burned with hot, divine intent. Would it work? Do we have enough to go around? This is the question.

      I speak, of course, of ritual. Purging and cleansing and purifying and, truly, burning a nicely dried, blessed smudge stick can be a terrific slice of personal magic, to rid a space (or perhaps even your own body) of negative juju or vicious spirits or just to make way for the new and the moist and the good. You can smudge a room. You can create a divine smoldering cloud and then move through the smoke, invoke change, purge the negative, invite hot licks of yes. It is a thing to do.

      But here’s the thing: Can you smudge an entire nation? Do we have enough lavender for 300 million? It is, all things considered, a big goddamn country. Windy. Rocky, in places. Could be tricky. Not to mention, you know, hazy. From all the smoke. Think of the potential traffic accidents. Coughing.

      Important considerations, really, because it is becoming increasingly evident that a great national purifying ritual is just about exactly what we need. We are, after all, almost at that point. The Great Bleakness is nearing its end and you can veritably feel the swarm of uptight BushCo demons and malicious energies swirling around the country like happy karmic leeches, like a giant intellectual rash, like black raindrops of dank sweat from Karl Rove’s evil mealy thighs.

      To make matters worse, these dark energies, these base spirits were actually invited here by the Powers That Be, by those quivering, shivering, terrified armies of evangelical right-wing neocon bonk jobs and attorneys general and sour Supreme Court justices and scowling defense secretaries lo these past half-dozen years, and this means they shall not leave easily, despite how it is quickly coming time for them to be shoved back down into the bowels of fear and shrill egomania whence they came.

      We must, therefore, do like the Mayans do. We must follow their divine and entirely appropriate example, set just recently.

      Apparently, George W. Bush — famed warmonger, despoiler of lands, despiser of gays and women and science and earthly resource, hapless fascist-wannabe — it seems George just visited Guatemala, where he happily trod upon a holy Mayan site or two and shook hands with wary diplomats and blinked a lot and mispronounced a hundred different names. You know, same old, same old.

      But then something interesting happened. Seems Bush left behind huge steaming piles of banality wherever he went, and therefore the first thing Guatemala’s holy guardians of the sacred did as soon as Air Force One’s wheels lifted off the ground was, of course, to purify the hallowed ground our president’s shockingly low, nefarious energy had infected.

      It’s true. Those Mayan priests rushed in right after George left and cleansed the sacred archeological site upon which Dubya had trod, shooed away the snickering hordes of bleak spirits that trail behind America’s Great Embarrassment like a sickly fog of ignorance and misprision and shockingly humiliating grammar.

      Yes, we need a grand American ritual. We are, after all, far more deeply infected than that Mayan site. Does it not seem entirely appropriate? Does it not make perfect sense? Of course it does.

      Ah, but maybe you scoff. Maybe you say what those highly regarded Mayan priests did was just quaint tribal nonsense, a little savage, silly, pagan. Truly, most Christians tend to sneer at such things, mock and deride and denounce even as they kneel before giant gruesome crosses and flock to pieces of suspiciously burnt toast and make Mel Gibson insanely wealthy.

      Christian rituals, if they exist at all, are largely tepid and bland and might involve, say, a little rosary bead here, a little sip of wine there, maybe a quick bologna sandwich followed by 4,000 Hail Marys and a bunch of blind fervent prayers to some grand unhappy deity because, well, most Christians don’t really understand the notion of spirit guides or negative energies unless it looks really sexy in red leathery skin and black boots and sharp pointy horns.

      I bring this up only because an estimated 75 percent of Americans at least vaguely identify with the Christian faith, and we can safely presume that only a wizened handful know how to burn, smudge, cleanse with anything resembling deep laughter and honest pagan intent and the understanding that Bush has been more toxic to this nation than Adam Sandler and MySpace and cheap piss-water domestic beer combined. Would this fact be an obstacle? Can we please try, anyway?

      We could try water. Sacred baths. Not-so-sacred baths. Any sort of bath, shower, divine scrub-down involving divine intent and maybe some candles and a little dish of salt and some blessed soap and the prayer-full idea that you are sloughing off skanky Bush demons and old skin and past loves and idiotic politicians.

      Can we bathe each other? Hose each other down? We do, after all, have a lot of water laying around. Bottles and bottles of it stacked to the rooftops of the nation’s Costcos and Wal-Warts like wet plastic kindling. Would this be sanitary? Do we have proper drainage? Enough soap? Ah, logistics.

      Ah, but wait. There is another fabulous possibility. There is, of course, fire. I love fire. Fire is God’s own enema. Fire is the devil’s dental floss. It is beautiful and powerful and dangerous and obvious and fun. As purgatives go, it can’t be beat. Ritualistically, you can burn it all: incense, candles, locks of hair, photographs, bedsheets, foreign policy documents, Dick Cheney’s black charcoal heart, Jenna Bush’s beer bong. Fire is good. Fire kicks serious spiritual butt. This is what they say.

      Sure, it won’t be easy. We will have to get around the law. Skirt the federal fire marshal’s implied edict that we cannot really have, say, a National Day of Fire, a grand torching of the toxic memory that is eight miserable years of the Bush administration.

      No matter. It’s still worth a try. It is, in fact, mandatory. And this being America, we can just keep it simple. Obvious. Keep the metaphor so clear that even celebrities and teenagers and recovering born-again Christians will understand.

      Here is what we can do: We shall burn a bush. Ten thousand bushes. Maybe a million. Bushes laced with sage, lavender, pine, incense, with eight years of warmongering and intolerance and those beady squinty vacant eyes. We shall gather in parks or street corners or fire pits at the beach sometime next year, and ignite.

      We will burn bush. We will burn away Bush. We shall purify and rinse and cleanse the nation of this horrific and banal poison, once and for all, and it shall be Good. And those Mayan priests? Why, they’ll simply look over and nod, smile knowingly. They understand completely.

      'Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience. . . Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem.'--Howard Zinn

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      Email: president@whitehouse.gov

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  • Give the man a break...he is only looking around for possible refuge in exile when impeached.

    • he won’t be impeached and he doesn’t need refuge. he’s got a 98,000 acre ranch in Paraguay.

  • And I thought Americans were dumb? I guess Mayan priests are dumber. I know they can’t support Bush openly because it’s not cool. But the truth is Bush and his evil corporate buddies are doing all they can to open the boarders up. How else can they suppress the wages for American workers? The third world peons are good for the investor class criminals, cheaper labor means more profits. Because corporate clowns don’t pay taxes why should they care at all. So I don’t see how anyone that says they are for working people can say they are for open boarders. Oh that’s right they are only for working people out side of the US what bunch hypocrites…..

    • Do you mean borders?

    • That’s right those things (BORDERS) that elites don’t believe in. Mayan priests are fooling themselves and are on the same side as those who oppress a world without "borders". As they devouring a world without borders just that much faster..The holy Mayan priests think that’s a good idea, how about you are you on the same side as Bush and the Mayan priests? You act like it!

  • In the"good" old days they would cut out the heart of victims.
    Chimp would have posed a problem.
    GWBUSH HAS NO HEART & NO GUTS.

    POLITICIAN FORMER MEMBER OF HUMAN RACE.

    John Cameron.oz.