Bush cites Israel as model for Iraq

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• 29 June 2007, 07:31

  Lets continue with the list. All arab countries must give women equal rights. All arab countries must be free to worship as they wish. All arab nations combined to make it easier must contribute at least one thing to modern civilization not including a natural resource.

  • 30 June 2007, 03:34

    I would say first let’s make sure the U.S. peddles "REAL fredom" not the fake Orwellian kind we are seeing the rise of today. Let’s go back to real elections not the fake Diebold type rigged systems. Let’s show how we REALLy supoort free speech no more BS ’free speech zones’ no more government sponsored hacking of websites they don’t like, no more controlling our press and turning it into State-run tabloid trash. Let’s stop acting like Commie China spying on or own citizens, if someone wants to have a banner saying something harmless like "Bong hits for Jesus" let’s show the world we REALLY believe in free speech not just in words but DEEDS. Let’s stop attacking foreign countries to steal their resources and let’s stop killing hundereds of thousands of innocents in order to make these thefts.Lets’ stop torturing chicken farmers and blind 15 year olds, they have nothing useful to tell us anyway. Let’s get our world record prison population down to a reasonable size and stop locking up people for victimless crimes. That’s just the start of the list but if the U.S. can achieve that maybe someone someday will REALLY believe the "freedom and democracy" slogans being chanted and know they are more than just smoke and mirrors.

• 30 June 2007, 10:00

  Oh, and in Israel, based on what I’ve read from different sources anyway, only Jews are permitted to receive and therefore ever have citizenship status; NONE of the other long-term, including life-long, residents, like the Arabs or at least Palestinians in Israel, including Christian, but also whether they’re from Palestine or other countries, f.e., none of them have access to citizenship, ever. It’s regardless how long they’re residents of Israel; and while of course in addition to the fact that most of Israel today really is Palestine, fiendishly occupied and renamed, but nonetheless Palestine.

  (Don’t get me wrong on the ’including Christian’ part. Of course the Christians should not be allowed citizenship when Muslim and any other non-Jewish faith residents of Israel are not granted citizenship.)

  Mostly Arab and Muslim countries, where the other religious faiths are represented by very small minorities of the overall populations, are to be like Israel, eh. Quite an "idea" or design that is to try to impose or even to merely suggest; or even just think of. It’ll surely be a very difficult "paradigm" to sell to these countries, or at least to the populations of these countries; the states, govts always being prepared to deal, bargain with Satan, i.e., evil. The consequences of trying to do so might be explosively interesting; and am not referring to consequences to the religious minorities in these countries, but outside of them, which is where the consequences at least logically should and would be understandably applicable.

  And that’s my view regardless of religious beliefs.

  Someone should have Bush write a 3rd grade exam to see if he gets this little right, and if he does, then have him go through the next level year of schooling, one year at a time; and see when he starts to really deserve to be failed out. This must be done in total honesty, absolutely no privileging, etc. I wonder how much he’d get right on an 8th grade exam like in the school I did my 8th grade in, and with the courses I took, for I have a feeling that I could flunk him by at least 8th grade; likely enough sooner, but let’s say 8th grade. Put me in charge of the examination, for I certainly know what I have in mind; and I’ll be fair, but not easy. I would REALLY like to start Bush with a 3rd grade exam, though; but I am then the definer of the exam, else forget it.

  Of course, however, Bush did not think of becoming US president when he was in third grade, but we also should consider the family environment, to determine what a child may eventually become or try to become; and not that it can be done with absolute certainty, though while the input can nonetheless be useful. When we think of the Bush family enviroment, then we have influence from racketeering during WWII, and surely since, but while one of the prior Bush family relatives was some significant-scale Christian minister, I think in the 19th century; and that minister, if I recall correctly, not much better than the Bush familiy of today, which is ... hellbent enough.

  Anyway, Bush is NOT the real president; Cheney IS. Bush serves as convenient cover, although not perfectly, which is something we can really be thankful for, btw. And those utilizing him for cover also make it clear that he’s not really president and have therefore messed up in their criminal scheming, which is another matter or reality we can or should be thankful for. After all, if Bush is not the real president, which he’s obviously not, then someone else is; and we know both are true, if we simply know that Bush is not the real president, for it automatically tells us that some other party is, or parties are. If we can see that Bush is not really president,

  Okay, so Bush is not the real president, but he does not cease to be the mouth-piece of the real rulers.

  Lousy situation.

  Bush is not the real president, some one else is, or some other parties are, while Bush is some ... sort of puppet. Cheney is also, sure, but far less than Bush; with respect to being puppet. Cheney? How’s he puppet? I am not sure, but certainly of himself, of is own doing, ..., that is, far more knowing what he’s doing and that it’s definitely prosecutable conduct.

  Whatever it all boils down to, when Bush speaks as ruler, I question who’s putting him up to this. He’s more puppet than anything else, I believe.

  Mike Corbeil
  Canada