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Homeland Security To Confiscate Bank Safe Deposit Box Contents

by Open-Publishing - Sunday 22 January 2006
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Trade-Exchange Rates USA

BANK OF AMERICA & COMPASS BANK MANAGERS WERE TOLD HOMELAND SECURITY WILL CONFISCATE SAFE DEPOSIT BOXES

by notepad

While all the other points I mentioned in a previous post are fairly well documented and discussed elsewhere on the Internet, the bank information I reported is not. This information is from my own experience and research. I discovered the disturbing news quite by accident - and by virtue of its importance, I decided to post my findings here and on a few other forums.

What did I hear?

A family member from Irvine, CA (who’s a branch manager at Bank of America) told us two weeks ago that her bank held a "workshop" where the last two days were dedicated to discussing their bank’s new security measures. During these last two days, the workshop included members from the Homeland Security Office who instructed them on how to field calls from customers and what they are to tell them in the event of a national disaster. She said they were told how only agents from Homeland Security (during such an event) would be in charge of opening safe deposit boxes and determining what items would be given to bank customers.

At this point they were told that no weapons, cash, gold, or silver will be allowed to leave the bank - only various paperwork will be given to its owners. After discussing the matter with them at length, she and the other employees were then told not to discuss the subject with anyone.

The family member has since given her notice to quit the bank.

I found the news alarming and decided to find out more myself. On a trip to my bank here in Houston, I remarked to a young bank employee (who’s new there), "well I guess you’ve been told all that stuff by the manager and the Homeland Security about what to tell your customers" - and to my amazement, the young woman came right out and said yes she’d been through all that, then whispered to me across the counter, "but we’re not supposed to talk about - I could lose my job."

Why haven’t you heard more about this?

First of all, since maybe only banks’ upper management is privy to the new "rules", the information doesn’t trickle down so easily.

Also keep in mind that employees have been told NOT to say anything about this, that it’s a matter of National Security (with an allusion toward arrest if they do). They face possibly losing their job too. Another reason is that bank employees may not think it’s important, or they believe they’re a unique part of the effort towards curtailing "terrorism" and helping America’s internal defenses.

It is also important to realize that not everyone’s a writer, or Internet savvy - even if the employees moved beyond their banks’ warnings & constraints, most people don’t know how to get their experience published on the Web in the public domain - it’s a mystery they are not familiar with so you never hear their story.

How to get the information yourself:

Visit your bank, ask a few well-worded questions, being careful not to arouse suspicion - if that doesn’t work, talk to friends and other family members - maybe they’ve heard something - or as a last resort, just point blank call the bank manager in private and demand to know what’s all this business with the Homeland Security deciding what I can have from my safe deposit box - tell me now or I’ll close my account today.

I’ll bet if you put forth the effort you’ll get the answers you want.

What should you do with this information?

I’m not trying to "scare" anyone - just providing some news I think is relevant to Americans. Each must find his way through this dark forest - you will do with this information what best suits you and your loved ones - me personally, I see this as another indicator of how the criminals in charge over our lives intend to fleece U.S. citizens completely then dispose of them as only refuse.

Be prepared.

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Forum posts

  • That sends a clear message to all foreigners and Americans: keep your money and valueables out of American or U.S. controlled banks. Yet, it seems it is already happening - more rich Americans have transfered their money and stocks to bank abroad.

    ...it is like sitting on a tree branch and cut it off.

    Also the threat of freezing accounts may led that more countries will move out of U.S. treasuries.

    • Kind of a null argument. The fed can close all banks and keep everything anytime they want. Under martial law the prez has dictatorial power. Anybody that keeps anything they value or can’t do without in a bank should be ready to lose it. The last thing the fed would do is warn the banks in advance. If Senators can’t keep their mouths shut why would bank personnel? There is no doubt that our government is full of corruption but when they can use the IRS to steal your labor why would they want gramma’s wedding pictures from you SD box?

    • Skolnick says the bankrupt banks of the 1930s saw the bankrupt owners stealing the contents of the safety deposit boxes.

      The banks will steal any tangible asset when their cash is worthless and they are bankrupt.

      The U.S. is now over the 8 trillion dollar mark in debt and its industries are going bankrupt or being bought off by foreigners.

      They can’t even make Corvettes or Hummers that work any more — they rattle and their electrical systems fail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      VPF

    • This is another example of what America is turning into the present administration is hell bent
      on forming a dictatorship the AM radio has no stations with any view other than the right,
      Bush thinks he can get anything he wants all he has to do is say there is a terroist he is just like
      Mccarthy & the communist behind every corner in the 1950’s. Wake up America the guy running
      this country is in dire need of help he is leading this country down the wrong path. Bush needs to
      be impeached. I would have this opinion regardless of what party he was associated with.
      Between starting wars like Iraq & making statements "the constitution is just a god dammend
      piece of paper" he has proven time & time again how evil he is.

    • As the extant laws, on the books TODAY state, "If, during a time of war, the president expressly chose to restrict the hoarding of gold or silver, he could do so." Since we have declared "war without end on terror" I wouldn’t be putting ANYTHING of value in a safety deposit box. As you will see below, its not only gold and silver at risk... and this does not even take into consideration the Executive Orders.

      Treasury Dept. claims power to seize
      gold and silver — and everything else.

      12:11p ET Saturday, August 20, 2005

      Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

      The U.S. Government has the authority to prohibit the private possession of gold and silver coin and bullion by U.S. citizens during wartime, and, during wartime and declared emergencies, to freeze their ownership of shares of mining companies, the Treasury Department has told the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee.

      But gold and silver advocates shouldn’t feel too picked on. For the U.S. Government claims the authority in declared emergencies to seize or freeze just about everything else that might be considered a financial instrument.

      The Treasury Department’s assertions came in a letter dated August 12 and written by Sean M. Thornton, chief counsel for the department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control, who replied to questions GATA posed to the department in January. It took GATA six months and a little prodding to get answers from the Treasury, but the Treasury’s reply, when it came, was remarkably comprehensive and candid.

      The government’s authority to interfere with the ownership of gold, silver, and mining shares arises, Thornton wrote, from the Trading With the Enemy Act, which became law in 1917 during World War I and applies during declared wars, and from 1977’s International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which can be applied without declared wars.

      While the Trading With the Enemy Act authorizes the government to interfere with the ownership of gold and silver particularly, it also applies to all forms of currency and all securities. So the Treasury official stressed that it could be applied not just to shares of gold and silver mining companies but to the shares of all companies in which there is a foreign ownership interest. Further, there is no requirement in the law that the targets of the government’s interference must have some connection to the declared enemies of the United States, or, really, some connection to foreign ownership. Anything that can be construed as a financial instrument, no matter how innocently it has been used, is subject to seizure under the Trading With the Enemy Act and the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.

      Having just gone through a controversy about a Supreme Court decision about government’s power of eminent domain, most Americans may be surprised to learn that the Trading With the Enemy Act and the International Emergency Economic Powers Act could expropriate them instantly and far more broadly without any of the due process extended to parties in eminent domain cases. All that is needed is a presidential proclamation of an emergency of some kind — and of course Americans lately have been living in a state of perpetual emergency.

      When the Trading With the Enemy Act was passed in 1917, gold and silver formed part of the official currency of the United States and were essential to ordinary commerce, so perhaps an argument could be made then against "hoarding," even if "hoarding" could not be well defined. That is no longer the case; the United States has officially disavowed gold and silver as money and they no longer have a meaningful role in commerce. (GATA is working on that.) So gold and silver investors may want to ask their members of Congress to seek repeal of the statutes that give the government the authority to interfere with the private ownership of gold and silver, emergencies or not.

      And ordinary citizens with no particular interest in gold and silver may want to ask their members of Congress to reconsider these statutes simply for being wildly tyrannical.

      GATA’s correspondence with the Treasury Department is appended.

      CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

      * * *

      January 20, 2005

      Roberta K. McInerney Assistant General Counsel / Banking and Finance Department of the Treasury Washington, D.C. 20220

      Dear Ms. Mclnerney:

      Michael Kirk of U.S. Rep. John B. Larson’s office has forwarded to me your letter to him of December 17, which answered my e-mailed inquiry to him about forcible redemption by the Treasury Department of gold and silver coins held by private citizens. You replied that a statute empowering the Treasury Department to do that, 12 U.S.C. Section 248(n), had been repealed.

      But since reading your letter I have learned of a similar statute: Title 12. Chapter 2, Subchapter IV, Section 95a, which provides in part:

      "During the time of war, the president may, through any agency that he may designate, and under such rules and regulations as he may prescribe, by means of instructions, licenses, or otherwise — (A) investigate, regulate, or prohibit any transactions in foreign exchange, transfers of credit or payments between, by, through, or to any banking institution, and the importing, exporting, hoarding, melting, or earmarking of gold or silver coin or bullion, currency or securities. ..."

      Section 95a further authorizes the president to "prevent" the "use" by U.S. citizens of "any property in which a foreign country or a national thereof has any interest."

      These provisions are of the greatest concern to investors in gold and silver bullion, coins, and shares of gold and silver mining companies, and to those companies themselves. So the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee urgently requests that the Treasury Department explain how it construes these provisions. Particularly, we’d like to know:

      * How does the Treasury Department construe "the time of war"? How can gold and silver investors know when the powers described in Section 95a are in operation or likely to come into operation? Are formal declarations of war by Congress required here, or lesser declarations, or none at all, but rather declarations made only by the president?

      * How does the Treasury Department construe "hoarding"? Does it include the ordinary collection of gold and silver coins, numismatic or not, and bullion by U.S. citizens, businesses, and corporations, absent any collaboration with enemies of the United States?

      * Does the Treasury Department construe Section 95a to empower the president to interfere with the ownership of shares in gold and silver mining companies merely because shares of such companies also might be owned by foreign nationals or foreign governments, at war with the United States or not? Under what circumstances would the president be so empowered?

      In essence, we need to know whether Section 95a contemplates the instant destruction of gold and silver investors and the precious metals mining industry in the United States. So the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee asks the Treasury Department for a meeting with the officials who might become responsible for implementing Section 95a, at which we might discuss the concerns of precious metals investors and mining companies. Would you kindly forward our request to the appropriate people?

      Thanks for your help.

      CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

      * * *

      February 28, 2005

      Mr. Chris Powell Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. Manchester, Connecticut

      Dear Mr. Powell:

      Thank you for your follow up letter dated January 20, 2005, requesting information about how the Treasury Department interprets aspects of Title 12, Section 95a, of the U.S. Code.

      Most of the questions you raise fall within the jurisdiction of Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC). Consequently, I wanted to let you know that I have forwarded your letter to OFAC’s Office of the Chief Counsel for a response. The chief counsel’s office will ensure that you receive a response to your letter.

      If you have questions about the status of your request, please call Mark Monborne, OFAC’s acting chief counsel.

      Thank you for taking the time to write.

      Sincerely,

      Roberta K. McInerney Assistant General Counsel (Banking and Finance) U.S. Department of the Treasury Washington, D.C. 20220

      * * *

      August 12, 2005

      Mr. Chris Powell Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. Manchester, Connecticut

      Dear Mr. Powell:

      Your letters to Roberta McInerney, assistant general counsel (banking and finance), dated January 20 and July 17, 2005, have been forwarded to me for response. I recently became the chief counsel (foreign assets control).

      The U.S. Code provision that you reference, 12 U.S.C. Sec. 95a, is a duplicate codification of Section 5 of the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917, 50 U.S.C. App. Secs. 1-44 ("TWEA"), with respect to which my office bears responsibility for interpreting.

      As you may be aware, Congress enacted TWEA during World War I to prevent certain transactions that might be of advantage to an enemy during wartime. During World War II the Treasury Department implemented extensive punitive blockings of Axis assets and protective blockings of Allied assets.

      In 1950 the United States imposed economic sanctions against the People’s Republic of China as a result of the Korean emergency to prevent, among other things, Chinese acquisition of foreign exchange through transactions with Americans. The Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control ("OFAC") began enforcing foreign asset control programs in the 1950s. Today the only economic sanctions programs administered by OFAC under TWEA are with respect to Cuba, North Korea, and certain third-country transfers of sensitive materials.

      You have asked how the Treasury Department construes the term "the time of war," which appears in section 5 (b) (1) of TWEA. Although TWEA does not include a definition of the term "during the time of war," it does include definitions for the terms "the beginning of the war" and "end of the war." The words "the beginning of the war" are deemed to mean "midnight ending the day on which Congress has declared or shall declare war or the existence of a state of war." The words "end of the war" are deemed to mean "the date of proclamation of exchange of ratifications of the treaty of peace, unless the president shall, by proclamation, declare a prior date."

      Thus the phrase "during the time of war" would seem to cover the period between "the beginning of the war" and the "end of the war."

      Since this period cannot come into existence without some form of congressional declaration, it would appear that TWEA — with the exception of its present applicability to the Cuba, North Korea, and transaction control programs referenced above* — applies only to situations involving a declared state of war. In exercising any of the specific powers available to him under TWEA during the time of war, the president would issue an executive order or other similar instrument generally made available through publication in the Federal Register.

      (* — From the early 1930s until 1977, when the International Emergency Economic Powers Act was enacted, TWEA applied not only in times of war but also in situations in which the president declared a peacetime national emergency. Pre-existing emergencies declared with respect to Cuba and North Korea and certain transaction controls were grandfathered, which explains why TWEA still serves as the basis for those sanctions programs, even though the United States is presently not in a state of war with respect to any of the affected countries.)

      The construction of the term "hoarding," as used in section 5(b)(1) of TWEA, would depend on how the president chooses to exercise his authority with respect to hoarding in any particular instance.

      In making any decisions under the authorities conferred by TWEA, the president would, of course, be taking steps to address threats to our national security during a time of war. In the past, the president has used TWEA or TWEA-like authorities to criminalize hoarding. See generally Bauer v. United States, 244 F.2d 794 (9th Cir. 1957). Today, however, such activity is not restricted under the only sanctions programs in effect pursuant to TWEA — i.e., the Cuba, North Korea, and transactions-control programs.

      If, during a time of war, the president expressly chose to restrict the hoarding of gold or silver, he could do so.

      Among the many factors the president would likely consider before taking such action, however, is the fact that the U.S. Government now mints and issues gold and silver coins to meet public demand for both numismatic and investment purposes.

      (See 31 U.S.C. § 5112(a)(7)-(10) & (e)-(i).)

      You also have asked about the president’s ability to "interfere with the ownership of shares in gold and silver mining companies merely because shares of such companies also might be owned by foreign nationals or foreign governments, at war with the United States or not."

      Under TWEA during times of war — and also under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, 50 U.S.C. Secs. 1701-05 ("IEEPA") during peacetime national emergencies — the president has broad powers to regulate property in which there exists a foreign interest. See TWEA § 5(b)(1)(B); IEEPA Secs. 1702 (a) (1) (B).

      Consequently, the president may restrict shares in any company owned by foreign persons consistent with the purposes of any declared emergency.

      In this respect, foreign-owned shares in gold and silver mining companies are no different from foreign-owned shares in companies in any other industry.

      Finally, you raise concerns about the "instant destruction of gold and silver investors and the precious metals mining industry in the United States." In the establishment and implementation of sanctions, the U.S. Government is always mindful of the domestic impact of restrictions meant to serve national security and foreign policy purposes. Just as the U.S. Government has been mindful of the practical impact that sanctions have on various service and manufacturing industries, it would also be mindful of the potential impact of sanctions with respect to the markets and industries associated with precious metals.

      I hope you find this letter instructive. Thank you for your interest. If I can be of any further assistance, please call me.

      Sincerely,

      Sean M. Thornton Chief Counsel (Foreign Assets Control) U.S. Department of the Treasury Washington, D.C. 20220

      http://www.gata.org/TreasuryClaimsPower.html

      While Mr. Thornton manages to put some lipstick on this pig, the fact remains that they can take anything they want, whenever they want. Homeland Security is not the only boogy man. FEMA will likely be lurking to carry out the more odious of the Executive Orders, of which confiscation of anything of value falls under their purvey.

    • Hello I saw that article too about Bush saying that about the constitution can you or anyone cite that for me so I can show lots of people?

    • What, exactly, does making corvetts & hummers that rattle have to do with freezing, or taking out valuables of a safety deposit box? Signs of the end of a great nation is what I say about the safety deposit boxes..........

    • From a Rant written December 9, 2005 by Doug Thompson, founder of Capitol Hill Blue, based on unnamed sources "present during the meeting":

      http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml

      Also please visit: www.bushiva.com for more rabblerousing puppet antics

    • Wrong about No alternative AM Radio...Air America is Nationwide...in Los Angeles it is 1150AM.
      The only liberal talk radio that I know of, very informative, many differnet programs.

    • SADLY ENOUGH SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE BLEEDING LIBERAL WHICH IS THE REASON WE ARE NOW WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES; THAT IS ALLOWING THE FOREIGN TERRORISTS TO INFILTRATE THE U.S. AND SET UP TERRORIST FUNDING SO EASILY .. I STILL SAY SEND THE LIBERALS TO IRAQ, PALESTINE, EGYPT, SYRIA, IRAN, CHINA, AFRICA, KOREA ETC AND MAKE THEM LIVE THERE FOR A MINIMUM OF 2 YEARS AND THIS TYPE OF E-MAIL WOULD BE NONEXISTENT .

    • If the terrorists are entering this country with such ease to make their illicit deposits, it would seem to me your government is failing miserably. Which, given the last 5 years does not surprise me one iota. Idiot.

    • AND YOU SHOULD BE SENT TO THE CONCENTRATION CAMP NOW ALMOST COMPLETE IN NORTH CAROLINA AND KEEP YOU THERE FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • And wouldn’t that make you happy! Any one who opposes Deacon Dumb should be shipped out of the country. That’s Bush democracy in action all right. And I’m very, very certain that all those nasty terrorists keep all their money and weapons in a bank safe deposit box. What a clown! Why don’t you just stay in Utah and keep your mouth shut?

    • Impeach Cheny first or reap the whirlwind.

    • I think its appauliing that our government is heading in this direction.I do have hopes
      that someday;after all this is over with,that the american people will stand up and make
      our nation great once again.As it was in my youth.I remember what our country was like
      in the earlier 1970’s.It was a happy go lucky care free country for the citizens.NOW- it’s a
      terror-fear-worry how we’re going to pay for health care-how are we going toeat-diseases-


      WHEWWWWWWWWWWWWW—when the hell does it end!!! Thanx to limbaugh,Oreillyand
      all the bleeding Hemrrhoids of the major news media.What a bunch of assholes.

    • I agree with you one hundred percent.This president has tainted the spirit of my own family.
      One point though about evil: True EVIL is spiritual incarnate within whatever fleshy animal it
      chooses to dwell within.Humans are animals TOO!True EVIL;as it would be incarnate within man,
      wouldn’t be fearful of death.Because a spiritually incarnated person in the EVIL sense;IF BUSH
      WERE,which he’s Not-because he’s too chickenshit to" PHYSICALLY" Fight for his own country.
      Hence;the deferments his daddy helped him get during the VIET NAM war,and this is the best we can do for our country is to put a COWARD in Charge.WHOM is willing to send people to their
      deaths based on a misleading LIE.I too like millions of AMERICANS was led to believe that the
      ATTACKS on 9/11 were that of OSAMA BIN LADEN.WHY THEN;IS THAT mother F****er still
      loose. I think I know why- It’s bad for business ALA-BUSH/BIN LADEN OIL ASSOCIATES.
      The truth will come out in the end.Remeber history-Adolf Hitler 1945;he was a COWARD TOO,
      When the U.S. and it’s allies defeated NAZI Germany, did adolf and Eva Braun stand up and take
      their medicine in a tribunal??? NO. Like cowards they both committed suicide.WE as AMERICANS
      could only be so lucky TODAY. Just don’t hold your breath..Things are going to get alot worse
      before they get better..I see alot of people every day.I look upon their behaviour as sort of a
      barometer towards the overall tension in this country.What I feel and sense;coincide with what I see coming down the road ahead of us. I have to tell you it scares the shit out of me..
      DOMESTIC ESPIONAGE;DOMESTIC GENOCIDE-9/11;OOOOPS I mean the terror attacks of 9/11.
      Oh well-perhaps we should paint the WHITE HOUSE RED and have crimson furniture with a nice
      DARK motif. Something DARTH VADER would be proud to call home.Let alone Alister Crowley;
      Anton Laveigh and they could have parties in the ball room with special guests the fallen Angels
      of old,the Nephilim and LUCIFER himself. That’s all I have to say. MIGHT WANT TO START
      READING YOUR BIBLE. THE WORLD EVENTS HAVE INSPIRED ME TO DO JUST THAT. GOOD DAY
      and GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU. :) T Uuop freiuohk Sepooliupateleg......

    • You need to be sent somewhere! This government and our country is about to fall apart. Our money is not worth the paper it’s printed on, and I believe our wars of aggression are being carried out in order to keep our dollar’s value high in the world market. If we keep trying to play the bully, one or a group of these countries is going to annihilate the U.S.A off the map. How do you like them apples.

    • Dear American, You should be listening to airamericaradio.com, especially from 3PM to 1AM. Mike Malloy is the most passionate of these talk shows. His starts at 10PM - 1AM, Mon-Fri. Weekends, you will hear "the best of Malloy" at different times. airamericaradio.com is on many AM radio stations across the country, or you can stream it through their website via Windows or Realplayer. You can also hear and learn from Tom Hartmann on KPOJ out of Portland, Oregon.
      I hope you listen and become more informed as I am trying to do. I believe the enemy is in the White House. Patty

    • I spent 16 years in the military before being booted for having "unusual political beliefs".
      My site is rebelforgod dot com and a thumbnail diary is there too.

      I’ve been shot at eight times by police, twice by Mexican soldiers(on American soil), subjected to an attempted chain wrap & dumping in a river by Illinois State Police. Was falsely arrested by Oregon police, who attempted to plant on me, a baggy of white powder.

      Was Swatt Assulted in Albuquerque for an expired tag (they told the media I was making pipe bombs). Go read the diary of a so called "bleeding liberal".

      My only concerne is for our return to Truth, Justice, Mercy and GoodFaith.

      The WTC was being hit by 757s (but a 737 engine fell into the street) while the gold depository vault in the basement was being thermited and robbed of 1.3 Billion in gold, the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile (why wasn’t there 50 tons of aircraft scrap on the lawn?) and the airplane crash site in Pensylvania was an old shrub grown dozer hole (also missing aircraft crash debris).

      Also note that, 9-11 was the last day of our Prez’s little brother over-seeing the robbery and controlled demolition of the WTC (as evidenced by hundreds of testimonies and photo/video recordings of the events) and the destruction of findings in many on going criminal investigations of the international political elite’s activities (mostly our Prez’s friends).

      Food, Clothing, Shelter, Mobility, and Association, these are the necessities to live. ANYONE who attempts to infringe these attempts to infringe your life.

      The Patriot Acts violate your life much more than any terror attack can. ANY legislation that violates these required Freedoms, are attempts to justify Criminal Actions. EVERYONE who upholds or acts on such legislation is a criminal against Humanity, even if it’s just their job!!!

      Truth sets us Free. Right, Left, both feet walk the same path. This lizard sheds it’s tail, distracting the masses, only to change roles, and do another great evil.

      Come to your senses, stop drinking the sweet tasting poison, and preserve your and your children’s posterity. Stop the extreemly perverse leaders of our otherwise good institutions.

      Others can take my life, but God has granted me Freedom!

    • There is a station you can listen to on AM radio: 1190 Air America they are not "right" enjoy
      Jerry springer is a host daily and he is funny

    • HEY Sounds like you’ve seen a lot!

      Appreciate your candor, ideals, and thoughts about what freedom really means. Thanks!

    • Sir, having lived in Albuquerque for 28 years, and seen the NWO alive and well (?) in the justice system, I see 18,000 Mexican troops on the border of Texas, where I now live. I listen to James Lloyd of Christian Media Network on a daily basis for encouragement in the Lord. I am now convinced that I am one of the remnant, after years of depression, anti-depressants, counseling, and finally alcohol (with a year in jail due to a dui) to try and dull the pain of what is happening all around.
      I have closed my bank accounts, and am preparing for the tribulation to purify the remnant. May our Lord and Savior refresh you, discipline you, and fill you with His peace that passes all understanding.
      Galatians 2:20
      Larry

    • Read it again,pal. It aint about granny’s Pix, it’s about gold, silver, ammo, weapons.They dont need legal justification, they need bank employees to co-operate...
      d

    • On the contrary, under martial law, which is VERY difficult for the President to declare, he does NOT have "dictatorial" powers. A declaration of martial law only means that the military, in SOME instances, can be used as a policing agency and that SOME civil rights can be only temporarily curbed or suspended for the duration that Congress allows for the declaration. Martial law does NOT mean that the President is given a free pass to do as he wishes with absolutely no oversight.

    • does anyone recall the savings & loan failures
      of the 1980’s? there was no warning, the doors
      were locked. end of story. my uncle lost 40k
      he recovered nothing.

    • There is a liberal AM radio station. In the Seattle area it is Air America on 1090. Check your area. They have about 100 stations now.

    • Whether it is true or not, I have heard about such a federal government policy for at least 25 years. It has nothing to do with G. W. Bush and just gives the Bush haters another excuse to spew their false venom.

    • Hi:

      I am one of those "liberals" and I am proud to say that I still am. I am a retired army master sergeant who served for 31 years reserve and active army combined starting in the Vietnam war. Remember that war where 56,000 Americans and over a million Vietnamese lost there lives and hundreds of thousands more were maimed. I was on a medivac . I picked up wounded soldiers, some without arms or legs. I lost friends and I learned that politicians and presidents have no monopoly on either brains or good public policy. I have lived through several wars as a US soldier ready to go anywhere in the world on a moments notice. I have been in deserts, jungles and in fridgid cold with a rifle in my hands and a prayer than no other president would be a dumb as Lyndon Johnson. Then along came George Bush. Now we have Americans turning on IRAQ and Americans turning on Americans and everyone it seems is afraid of encroachments on our constitution and our freedoms, and they should be. I am one of those "liberals" who swore to uphold the very constitution Goerge Bush is dismantling. Invasion on privacy with secret spying on Americans, loss of due process with the Patriot Act whom, with a "memorandum of understanding" issued immediately after Bush signed the renewed act into law stated the president was not obliged to report seizure of property or private information if he alone determined that national security interests were at stake or that it would interfere in any way with the conduct of his job as president. The memorandum went on to state more loopholes so that the president could ignore the new safeguards in the revised law including congressional oversite.

      Many of us have seen tyrrany and suffering in other countries - even our own during the civil rights movement at least on TV. Do we want our great nation to descend to the level where our citizens have no rights or protections? Do we want to be an El Salvador or former Yugoslavic state where people disappeared in the night, raped and tortured? I agree with Ben Franklin who stated that he who exchanges freedom for security deserves neither.

      So before you get up on your pedestal next time answer this: How would you like to be the man on the medivac in Iraq today picking up the pieces? What would you tell the screeming soldier with no intact arms or legs about why he or she is in Iraq? WPM? Terrorist link? Or the old stand by: "We’re going to give them democracy even if it has to be at the point of a gun mentality"? Recall that all world democracies were born from a movement within. All that had been attempted with force failed.

      Whatever your answer ask yourself this: Who will pay for the care of tens of thousands of disabled veterans like me when they return home? You? Taxpayers? George Bush?

      So I’ll get off my soap box now, but I still can’t forget the dead, the wounded, the sceaming. My heart goes out to the families shipped home dead or in less than one piece.

      SDW

    • It is sad to read you give liberal a negative conotation. Liberal is derived from the word liberty, which you cheerish. Liberty allows you to voice your opinion on this blog.
      Now for some facts. Mr Bush has successfully divided the Nation into left or right. Mr. Bush stated he was the war president. The world was told they were with us or against us. Not much of a choice for dipomacy. His administration has kept truth from the people whose nation it is. He has condoned torture, rendition, a porous border, an illegal war, low wages, billions in windfall for oil cororations, and given America the highest debt load in history. Now a bit of reality and truth regarding liberals allowing terrorists to inflitrate the nation. The IRS had a successful program in place to identify fruadulant social security numbers. The program was successful in finding illegal aliens using bogus numbers. Mr. Bush canceled this IRS program. Here is another tid bit that may interest you, regarding the security of your nation. The government is currently controlled by the GOP in all 3 branches of government. During this 5 year period the government has borrowed nearly 1 billion dollars a day or more. Cutting domestic programs while funding a war in Iraq and Afganistan. Are you affected by this? More than you yourself know. There remain paramount issues to consider, as you condeme the Liberty you so dearly cheerish.

    • Sorry to inform you that the USA is and always has been since Lincolns time, under martial law. The so called "president" operates as Commander in Chief. A military designation under the emergency war powers act. Congress gave every president the sole right to declare themselves Commander in Chief. That is why the first thing a new pres does is reinstate it on the day he takes office. They will NEVER give it up voluntarily. You only think you have a democracy. Remeber, "no one is so enslaved as one who believes he is free."

    • What, exactly, does making corvetts & hummers that rattle have to do with freezing, or taking out valuables of a safety deposit box? Signs of the end of a great nation is what I say about the safety deposit boxes..........

      Another sign of the end of this great nation is allowing 12 to 20 million illegals into our country and then paying lip service about what they are going to do about it, which is nothing. This problem was easily solvable 20 years ago before it became a disaster for America. Now it is to late. Our Government is so Corrupt it makes the Mafia look like a bunch of Boy Scouts. God Help our Children, what they have in store for them should be Horrific.

    • You said that this president would not have dictatorial powers. What do you call the Patriot Act? You said he could only exercise those powers that Congress allows him. Have you forgotten that when he signed the Patriot Act that he added an addendum that he didn’t have to obey the law? This guy is dangerous and would become a dictator in a heart beat! If this clown ever declares martial law everyone that has ever spoken or written about him that he doesn’t like will find themself in some kind of camp or in a trench with hundreds of others for the future generations to dig up. This guy will TAKE A FREE PASS TO DO WHAT EVER HE WANTS!

    • I used to listen to Air America. That is, until a mysterious conservative christian owner(s) bought out 1010 KXXT in Phoenix, almost overnight. Now we have one more christian radio program here in AZ, along with the, like 25 others. If this was not a conspiracy to get the truth off the Phoenix airways, I don’t know what is!! I guess Air America was getting on to something too much for those conservatives to handle. And more and more former republicans like me were finally waking up to the obvious. This country is already gone and we handed it to the traitors while we just sat there and got fat off our false ’living for the moment’ bliss. As for the SD boxes: I had the good fortune to be told by a wise man six years ago that your gold, silver and belongings of value belong nowhere else than in your own personal safe at home, bolted down to the floor. Trust not the bankers. They screwed us once, they will do again even harder!!!!!! Afterall, can you really trust ANYONE, but yourself and close family?

    • Oh, there is sure proof that AIR AMERICA is loaded with truth. They have Jerry Springer. Come on, liberals get your head out of your A**

    • SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE RUSH LIMBAUGH CONVERT....

    • You must be a product of the US educational system if you think that McCarthy was not right on....do a little research and you will be enlightened! Now about the US gov’t...the only answer is to take away at least 50% of their income....only then will we win this battle....and time is running out! By income I mean taxes that are paid into the system....these 535 urchins are slugs of unbelievable proportion....they, as have too many americans, been sucking at the public teet for far too long.....starve them!

    • Left AM radio station - check the website to find your local station. http://www.airamericaradio.com/
      The Randi Rhoades show in the late afternoon/early evening is the BEST!

    • He’s better than the alternative! Imagine what we would be like today if we had not struck back after 9-11. We can’t let the world come in and run all over us. We have to stand up for what we believe in. If you don’t like it here leave!!!

    • Amen, brother!!

    • I agree, if you don’t work you don’t eat!

    • IN RESPONSE TO YOUR MESSAGE. I AM A RETIRED COLONEL AND CAN SAY OUR COUNTRY HAS NEVER BEEN IN SUCH POOR MILTARY SHAPE AS IT IS TODAY. WE HAVE MORE GENERALS THAN TOP KICK SARGENTS. WE ARE SO TOP HEAVY WE CANT FIGHT A REAL WAR. WITHOUT OUR "SO-CALLED" SMART WEAPONS NOW THAT THE SYSTEM CAN BE SHOT DOWN BY THE CHINESE OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY THAT PAYS FOR THE SATELLITE BUSTERS. OUR MILITARY IS ONLY THE FIFTH LARGEST IN THE WORLD. NOW I DONT CALL THAT BEING A WORLD SUPER POWER.. WE WONT PROTECT OUR BORDERS BUT THE IDIOTS WANT TO PLAY WORLD POLICE AND WORRY ABOUT IRAQ’S BORDER, AFRICAN COUNTRIES THAT DONT EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE BORDERS, ITS TIME THE TRUTH GETS OUT TO THE MAINSTREAM CITIZENS THAT WE ARE BEING INVADED FROM MEXICO AND OUR COUNTRY IS BEING PUT OUT OF BUSINESS.
      I DID NOT SPEND 16 YEARS IN OUR MILITARY TO SUPPORT WETBACKS OR OTHER COUNTRIES TRASH THAT SNEAK THEIR WAY INTO MY COUNTRY WITH THE AID OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
      FRIENDS IT TIME TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS EVEN IF IT MEANS GOING DOWN THERE AND DOING WHATEVER IT TAKES TO STOP THE FLOW OF FOREIGNERS..
      RM. COL,USAR,
      3rdARMD DIV.

    • You can NOT invade a sovereign country, put a gun to a man (mexico) or woman’s (hawaii) head, make them sign a piece of paper or parchment and take their land, then give them a small pittance for it and claim throughout history as having purchased said country from them...sorry...half a country in mexico’s case...but, you get my point you ignorant halls of montezuma trampling mollosus dog...furthermore, get it straight fool...the first immigrants to Anahuac (north america) were people from asia, india and africa, who came in peace, and arrived thousands of years before the vikings and colombus; now, the first illegal immigrants (people not given permission to stay) on this continent were the hispanics (white-europeans from spain) and the latins (white-europeans from italy). and so on and so forth. Mexicans (named after the Mexicatl (Aztec) the last great civilization of Anahuac) are as indigenous as the Dine (Navaho) or the Inuitl (Eskimo). Over 500 nations and 100,000,000 people were already here when the great white tide of hateful, genocidal, racist, convicted colonialist bigots first arrived and YOUR ancestors thought it AOK to just trample upon the basic human rights of other people in order to seek personal fortune and prosperity. What gives you all now, the moral and ethical right, to draw a line in the sand and tell people that have always travelled those roads for over 10,000 years - that they can no longer cross. I would love to be a fly on the wall when you tell the Creator your views on how some people he put on GOD’S GREEN EARTH were illegal’s, therefore he should consider not letting any into the Kingdom of GOD you trained dog of war, why don’t you go fetch something and be a good little soldier and take your orders without question, "BOY"!

    • What’s with the bizzare and tangent last sentence? Weird.

      Any I’m curious. When did they ever make Corvettes or Hummers that didn’t rattle? I’ve owned two Vettes...fun buy rattle and stiff my Porsches are far better. Additional I had a H1 hummer...electrical and mechanical nightmare.

    • Two words to "everything" you’ve said, thought, read, heard or know...AMERO and NEW WORLD ORDER! It’s already been agreed to by BUSH and the PRESIDENTS OF MEXICO and CANADA. Check out Lou Dobbs’ CNN tapes on the subject. IT’S ALREADY HAPPENING, FOLKS...

    • WOW!!We’re going the way of the Romans!!The collapse of yet another great empire in the making,what a shame,all the generations before us are surely turning in their graves.

    • I believe Nostradamus called that union "MABUS",and rememberthat the U.S.dollar is backed by oil and the Arabs(especially Iran)have abundance of it and hate us,so to bring us down they will not accept U.S. dollars anymore,any currencybut U.S.$$.
      And the article I have recently read makes total sense about this problem,Bush wants to invade these countries like he did Iraq to try and establish pro American governments so oil will still be purchased with U.S. dollars.
      the thing is our U.S.$$ were backed by Gold and Silver,but it turned on us when other countries got a surplus of U.S.$$ they would simply
      sell it back for the precious metals,soon depleting our Fort Knox,which is probably now a much more empty place than it used to be,of the Gold and Silver.

    • GEEZ CHEVY HAS ALWAYS HAD THESE PROBLEMS THAT IS WHY I BUY FORD TRUCKS THEY ARE TUFF AND HAVE BETTER ELECTRONICS

    • Ha, ha...so untrue about the indigenous tribes living in peace amongst themselves in North America to Central America to South America...Get a life, you RACIST loser!

    • preaching bout jesus-don’t think that’s gonna save us-but u r right bout opening our eyes-not only the 9-11 conspiracy-this whole "new world order"is set out to keep the masses as an ignorant working organ detrimental in its effect-i mean we being so narrow-minded and obedient helps the parasite live off of us; some food for thought-not so secret societies-illuminators, masonic lodges, skulls and bones,/jewish/ etc that rule the world, reptilians?-see what that is; eugenics, nano engineering...chips in our brainwashed minds,,,you people dont even have a clue what we are f***ing talking bout

    • That’s the only thing to look for-that’s where a fragment of the truth is visible but will you see it?

    • mother goddess? david icke

    • And what, pray tell does you’re beloved Mexico do to those who enter Mexico illeagally?

    • Corvetts have always rattled and their electronics have always failed its a signature of GM. The vetts produce more torque than the the design and mounts can hold over a long period everything shakes loose. This has nothing to do with homeland security just an example of how our manufacturing market is effecting our national product for export. This effect how we generate revenue which pays that multi-trillion dollar debt. Again nothing to do with Homeland security but if we can no longer rely on the Deceased 3 to support our economy security measure have to go in place to ensure we dont have a run on the bank. That type of event at this day and age would be worse than an nuke in the middle of the country.

    • Air America went bankrupt because no one but you listened to it. It was not a conspiracy. I’m completely serious. Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_America_Radio
      Air America completely committed suicide, no mysterious Christian owner / assassin required.

    • Not sure that I can think of a lot of countries, or governments more specifically, that I trust any more than ours. That is not a vote of confidence in ours, but a vote of no confidence in the rest as well.

    • Actual total ’unfunded debt’ is over 200 trillion dollars,
      we can’t even afford to paid the interest anymore.
      IF u.S. population was taxed @ 100% it would not make
      a dent in the principle, [that we owe to ????, the FED??]

  • I would think that if conditions got to the point where the US government felt it necessary to confiscate the contents of safety deposit boxes then a substantial portion of the American public would feel it necessary to exercise their right to bear arms to rectify the situation.

    • That’s where the box cars with shackles and the FEMA camps come in......

    • The laws are already in place to respond in overwhelming force to ANY action those citizens take.

      If you think things are bad now, wait till martial law is declared.

      The camps and Freight cars indeed.

      Get it through your poor wee heads, the time to act is probably past, unless you can still stop and then reverse the decline in freedom and democracy.

      Didn’t anyone pay attention to the lessons of WACO? That was in the good old days, before Patriot Acts.

    • locking and loading as I type this!

    • Ahh but the firearms will be confiscated long before then. We can’t have guns in the hands of general population terrorists you know!

      Anyone planning on getting out before the martial law comes down? My hubby and I are out fall 2007...

    • I agree. The country will move to the point where citizens will change order by guns not by vote as happens in some countries... Do we want it?

    • I’d love to know what place you have in mind that is going to be any better. Not much for antarctic weather myself. This is the problem. There are no ’new’ frontiers, no new places to get us back.

    • IF THIS IS TRUE , THEN WE’RE IN DOGGY DOO
      TIME TO DUST THE MUSKETT, DONT WANT IT NOT TO BARK ,
      LORD HELP US IF WE LET THIS BARF ROLL OVER US,
      WE KNEW IT WAS ON THE WAY,
      BUT WAS LOOKING THE "RONG" WAY
      A BEAR SAID THAT

    • I agree. The world is too small these days, there is no effective place to hide completely from the NWO. However, South America is probably your best bet.

    • where can you go? What nation will be any better? Not being critical here, but where is better?

    • Unfortunately, Americans don’t have the balls to stand up to the Federal Government for fear of losing their SUV’s, cell phones, cable TV and professional sports. The governemt is- and always will be- one step ahead; they force their agendas on the public little by little and we swallow it hook, line and sinker.

    • so where are you going?

    • Most "elections" are electronic, now...read "rigged"
      for "electronic".
      Most of us need to wake up, or some of us need to take to our arms together..."elections" won’t work anymore.

    • South America, sure, but what makes you think Americans will be welcomed there? Have you ever heard of Chávez, Morales, Castro, Kirschner and the other leaders building up what may become a new political/economic giant?
      Mmhh... on second thoughts, perhaps Paraguay could receive the millions escaping from the Land of the Free... After all, there are over 10.000 American forces there.
      Salud!
      Ludico

    • getting out by fall 2007,,were you gonna go,,Canada..??you’ll freeze your butt off up here...us well we might just go back to Poland..things are picking up there ok...da zvidanya

    • No matter where you go, you can’t hide from what’s coming! It’s already went to far! What you are seeing is the transformation of this government to a one world government! The United States is on the brink of destruction as we speak! In a year or less the United States will not be as the United States we know today. A big war is on the horizon that will destroy a third part of the worlds population and it will be fought on our soil!

      Our military is stretched to the limit, our economy is also stretched to the limit, the government is holding down and doing away with Christianity, allowing other religons (by law) to rise in our country, and teaching it to our children, making this country a multi-cultured country and forcing their way of life and religon on Americans.implementing so called security measures on us by force.

      There is no where to hide because it’s a world thing, it’s going to be a one world government! You will either transforn or be done away with.

      Well, I’ll just have to be done away with because I will never bow down to a one World government! I will never transform!

      Don Cantrell
      Donco@itlnet.net

    • Don’t keep your arms or ammunition in a safe deposit box.

    • The only way for humanity to come to its’ sences is for ALL religion to be banned and install a humanistic belief system. Then overthrow the current regieme, reinstall the government Amerika used to have and goto a 3 or more party system.

    • this is indeed what we can all look forward to : martial law and the confiscation of the last vestiges of our freedom and wealth. and, as history has shown time and time again, armed resistance to this travesty by the oppressed populace. get ready now.

    • Religions have always been part of the problem! Remember the Machiavellian method of "divide and conquer" This is how religions have been used by those in power since THE BEGINING.

      Wake up and realize that religions were founded and manipulated for the control of the masses.

    • Keep them well hidden until you plan to use them.

  • Now where have I heard this before...?

    By Executive Order Of The President
    of The United States, March 9, 1933

    "By virtue of the authority vested in me by Section 5 (b) of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended by Section 2 of the Act of March 9, 1933 …, in which Congress declared that a serious emergency exists, I as President, do declare that the national emergency still exists; that the continued private hoarding of gold and silver by subjects of the United States poses a grave threat to the peace, equal justice, and well-being of the United States; and that appropriate measures must be taken immediately to protect the interests of our people."
    Therefore, pursuant to the above authority, I hereby proclaim that such gold and silver holdings are prohibited, and that all such coin, bullion or other possessions of gold and silver be tendered within fourteen days to agents of the Government of the United States for compensation at the official price, in the legal tender of the Government.

    All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed, pending action in the due course of the law. All sales or purchases or movements of such gold and silver within the borders of the United States and its territories and all foreign exchange transactions or movements of such metals across the border are hereby prohibited.

    Your possession of these proscribed metals and/or your maintenance of a safe deposit box to store them is known by the government from bank and insurance records. Therefore, be advised that your vault box must remain sealed, and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the Internal Revenue Service.

    By lawful order given this day, the President of the United States.”
    Franklin Roosevelt – March 9, 1933

    • It seems around the globe history is repeated. Will we ever learn.

    • First of all, the US Government has not had cash since December 23, 1913, the day the Federal Reserve was ’voted’ in, even though it is unconstitutional and unratified. Congress, according to the constitution is the only arm of government allowed to create money. They abdicated this to a private corporation in 1913 that is not part of the Federal Government. Its enforcement arm, known as the Internal Revenue Service is also NOT a government agency. Income tax is also unconstitutional and the 861 evidence is getting people censored for pointing this out, and in some cases thrown in jail for bringing it up. We pay taxes to a private corporation that then takes that money and loans it out to our Government. Again, nice little racket which is why when the Constitution was drawn up, a Central Banking System was specifically mentioned as not Constitutional. The Federal Reserve pays the same amount for every dollar printed (ten cents) whether the face value is one dollar or one thousand. Pretty nifty racket, wouldn’t you say? All of this shortage of cash, deficits, ownership by foreign companies and countries can end today if, (as Congressman Ron Paul, independent in Texas) and others going back to Lindberg in 1912 have noted, abolish the Federal Reserve System and return to a non-centralized bank that allows Congress and only congress to issue money. This also gets rid of the Federal Income Tax system, thus eliminating the need for two income households and realigns the majority of social programs to the states and state’s rights as has already been the intention.

      Congress has a way to generate cash quick. They are the only branch of the US Government permitted to create money. To do so, they need to take back their power and get rid of the Federal Reserve System, something that should have been done in 1913, which is why only four congressmen voted it in. They had to wait until everyone left for the Christmas holiday and then established this in private. And this isn’t that hard. Lincoln did it. Unfortunately, his removing the bankers from the US government continues to be the primary reason for his assasination. Booth was heavily involved with the advocates for Central Banking. It wasn’t about slavery. It was about money. There is a reason people say ’follow the money’. The US Government, should it control its own currency and that currency is based upon measurable output, (goods and services) will never go bankrupt. The interest rates, the ’Fed this’, and ’Fed that’, it’s all smoke and mirrors. Completely unnecessary and used to keep all of us in the dark. Baron Rothchild in the late eighteenth century remarked made the true observation that if he controls a country’s money, he controls the country.

      If Americans want to control our country, we need to control our money. To control our money, we need to make and monetize it. To do this, Congress needs to accept their responsibility, kick out the Federal Reserve and return our money to the people, where it belongs. There is no reason, if we follow the Constitution for the United States to ever become bankrupt. Of course, that means the average person needs to READ the constitution in the first place. That’s a great place to start and here’s where it is: http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/BOR.htm

    • SOSDD, and it will always be the same. :-(

    • ACCEPTING THE STATEMENT GIVEN AS TRUE THERE ONLY REMAINS ONE QUESION.? WHAT KIND OF AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE IS COMING?? WILL IT BE A TRADITIONAL ONE (circa 1929) WITH FALLING PRICES AND LITTLE OR TIGHT CASH SUPPLY AVAILABLE? OR, WILL THE GOVERNMENT ROLL OUT THE PRINTING PRESSES AND CREATE A RUNAWAY INFLATION ( circa Germany 1923) AND MEET THEIR FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS BY MAKING CASH VIRTUALLY WORTHLESS IN ITS OVER-ABUNDANCE?? EITHER WAY, IT WON’T BE PRETTY !!!!

    • The Liberty Dollar was specifically designed not to be deposited into a bank so it will stay and circulate in the community for the advantage of the local economy. Because it cannot be whisked away to some international bank, the Liberty Dollar will remain in your community - and circulate for the good of both the merchants and consumers.

      The Liberty Dollar is available in three forms: metal Gold & Silver Libertys (which are by far the most popular), paper Silver Certificates, and in digital form for use on-line and via email.

      The Liberty Dollar returns the ownership of the money to the people as a means of returning control of government spending to the people.

      The intrinsic benefits for you, your community and our country include:

      · Economic stability
      · Prosperity for people
      · Freedom from inflation
      · Safer storage of value
      · Greater financial privacy
      · Trusted basis for saving
      · Pride of truly owning your own money
      · Better control of your finances
      · Enhancing local self-reliance
      · Encourages ecological sustainability
      · Stimulates local economies and employment
      · Profitability for people, not banks
      · Independence from current banking system
      · Improved social and political systems
      · Prevents large-scale, systemic failure
      · Disciplined government growth and control
      · A stronger community for family and business
      · Provides a solution to economic and social difficulties
      · Insulates local economies from national economic trends
      · Allows a community or a region to set its own standards
      · Protection against a manipulated monetary system
      · Protection from the next national monetary crisis
      · Greater protection of individual rights and liberties
      · Returns the monetary power to the people
      · Provides a financial deterrent to war

      http://www.libertydollar.org/default.asp?REFERER=NRC32370

    • This is already mid process.

      The Treasury discovered that when the circulate a new coin, that a significantly large percentage of that coin goes immediately out of circulation and into the hands of collections. Be it the child collecting all 50 states to an adult who wants that framed Utah coin on the wall with certificate, etc... Why do you think we’re going to change bill styles yet again after having changed them once already some 10 years ago.

    • Those in power know history very well, that’s why they always repeat what has worked well in the past.

    • Are you aware that the US Federal Reserve Bank is a majority foreign owned corporation? Mostly British and French families from old, old money.

    • We, the people, tell the Government what to do. A lot of Indians died for a free America. When a
      government uses fear to control, and tells you not to talk about it, not only am I talking, I will tell every one I know!!!!!! -like using depleted uranium on our troops. Look it up - gulf war syndrome. Tell every one you know. Go to the internet and type in DU. wikipedia-the free encyclopedia, will give you lots of information, including the fact that we are using tons of depleted uranium not only on the Iraqui people but ON OUR OWN TROOPS. When elected officals kill their own people, then they are no better than what they are fighting. OH, DU (depeleted uraniun) takes 4.5 BILLION years to dissipate. Tell that not only to republicans but to every one, as I do. The way I found out about it was one day listening to Rush Limbaugh - he said, "Folks, you don`t need to see this movie. I have seen. it He is just trying to sell his movie." I knew then that I had to see the movie to see what he was trying to hide! Watch the movie - HIDDEN SECRETS OF DESERT STORM or GULF WAR. Former Weapons inspector Scott Ritter (remember that name) has gone before congress and told the truth. The liberal media forgot to tell the people. Rush Limbaugh has known of this - VERY, VERY important for those with ears. Don’t listen to one side and have them tell you what the other side is saying. Listen for yourself. My brother and my best friend are Republicans. I am at times Independant, democrat, liberal. I am not gay and do not promote homosexuality, but if this is free america then I will have no problem, that is between them and God. Also see UNCOVERED THE WHOLE TRUTH ABOUT THE IRAQ WAR. Remember, do not ever be afraid to speak out. Find out beyond what you are being told. THIS IS YOUR RIGHT!!!!!!!
      I never plan on leaving the United States. Those poor cloned military men are also just people who have been brain-washed and are in ineed of knowledge. One more movie -WHY WE FIGHT. It just came out, and I heard it was good; and also see V FOR VENDETTA.
      Take care, From Will Willis in Texas

      will.willis@yahoo.com

    • thanks for the information and movie tips - i will watch them all tomorrow

  • My wife is a bank manager and VP and has never heard of such rules.

    • Can you say which bank? Maybe the authorities are planning to tell smaller banks last — minimize the risk of exposure for a smaller return.

    • Your wife has not heard of such rules? or is she simply following orders? "employees have been told NOT to say anything about this, that it’s a matter of National Security (with an allusion toward arrest if they do). They face possibly losing their job too."

    • I’m a VP at a Bank... this is an absolute crock of xxx. The Feds can order any of the safety deposit boxes sealed at any time. That’s nothing new - it’s been that way for years... long before Homeland Security even existed. If they come in with the proper court order, they can pretty much do whatever they want. Is this honestly NEWS to anyone? It’s been that way for decades! I think it’s stretching the truth quite a bit to try and panic eveyrone telling them of some new "secret thing" that the Dept of Homeland Security is going to use to seal all the safety deposit boxes.

      News flash people...

      The government has ALWAYS had that power.

      They can freeze your accounts.

      They can order your safety deposit box sealed or opened - their choice.

      They can literally TAKE your assets and let you try get get them back through the courts.

      They can take your Real Estate and pay you whatever they say it is worth.

      I am amused at this story, but it’s stretching the truth quite a bit.

    • I don’t have a problem with the Feds doing so with a court order. However, the DHS doesn’t need one!

    • oh come on, you taking the fun out of this panic. I am going to dress up in my very best 1933 Suit and go down to the bank tommorow morning, and with a straight face ask the Bank Manager,,, is it true?

      Now, with all that said, I do still worry because I have over 1000 ounces in that vault. He does not ever know that or at least I think he does not.

      I still think it is better at the bank than at home. They can sieze the box, but I believe that even in 1933 they had to compensate you for the loss. My Grandfather got compenstated at the $35 rate for his Gold. So, one way or another, if they really want the Gold and Silver, then you will have to sell it to them anyways.

    • Umm yeah 35 lousy stinking bucks and the French got much more than that. The US.gov is going to "give" me SPOT rates on my gold bullion when the US is effectively broke. Yeah ok and I’ve a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. My dad, as a teenager, survived the Great Depression. His advice, which I follow today, never, ever trust the US Government for anything. Keep your bullion close to you. Bury it in the backyard in a moisture-proof container, buy guns and lots of ammo, lots and lots of ammo.

    • "Safety deposit boxes" and you’re a VP at a bank? Riiight!!

  • I’m an internal auditor at mid-size regional bank in the southeast. I have not heard anything about this nor has this been communicated to my bank.

    • perhaps you should go FIND OUT. you ARE an internal auditor afterall. the question you will need to answer is: will you risk losing your job to tell the public if you find out any of this is true? when threatened with our jobs, most people WILL hold secrets.

  • this is required in our fight against terrorism.....
    You will object only if you are a terrorist!

    • thats an incredibly stupid statement. how does this help to fight the war on terrorism? if we are attacked by terrorists, then homeland security is allowed to hold on to OUR property till they, and IF they think it should be given back to it’s rightful owners. thats almost as bad as saying that we are fighting a war on terrorism to protect the homeland, meanwhile the mexican border is still WIDE OPEN, and they have no REAL plans of securing it. how can you fight a war on terrorism, while leaving our borders open? how does holding on to peoples possessions help to fight terrorism? how is this required to fight terrorism????

    • I’m NOT a terrorist, and I OBJECT!!

    • I object too and I’m not a terrorist. The real terrorist is Bush

    • makes me wonder what does Mexican border have anything to do with this, I am currently living in Mexico its nice and can cross any day I like with documents but I dont since I live here better than I could at US. you might be amazed about what I am saying yet its true and I dont mind if you cant tell the diference.

      About border issues do what ever you like after all its your country, just a thought here, If a terrorist wished to enter US their are plenty of ways to get arround it lets say sea, canada, better yet you can find them any day at the white house! or pentagon!.

      have a nice day.

    • Your so ill informed you should not be permitted to vote.
      You probably believe thier will be social security when you
      retire and a "magic bullet" from lee harvey oswald killed
      kennedy, can I interest you in buying a bridge in Brooklyn ?.

    • you americans need to get yer heads out of yer butts over this terrorism b. s.
      your being dragged around by your fear-mongering cokehead leaders
      grow-up and get the fuck out of the worlds pockets/bedrooms/countrys
      love
      dj.dj.

    • How were my statements wrong? How were they defamatory or abusive?

      I read of some of the other posters and they were far worse. It is true that Bush called the Minutemen "Vigalantes."

      It is true that I sent people Frosty Woolridge articles and also articles about the Ford Foundation funding some of these groups such as LULAC, Mecha, MALDEF, Voc de Aztlan and La Raza (means the race) and their plan of "Reconquista’’ and that the recipients never replied and never discussed it and sent me jokes instead.

      It is true that our borders are wide open and yet the Bush Administration continually harps about Terrorism, Homeland Security and 9/11 while simultaneously leaving open. That to me is a red flag.

      Ralene

    • you need to relax. stop flaming other people. that guy’s wife is a VP..you are accussing his wife of lying. it’s people like you that spread unnecessary fear. why don’t you check YOUR facts??

    • NO!!!!! I object because I am an American, not a terrorist, and I have the right to be free...not to be controlled by a fat cat on capital hill!! My money...my box...hands off!!!!

    • the only terrorists in this once great nation are the ones in charge of it

    • would you object to the government taking grammas gold locket that you have saved for your daughter?

      how about those rare coins that you have stashed away for retirement? would you object then?

      do you even have a safety deposit box?

      do not be stupid start reading about the war on terrorism, then ask yourself exactly how does this effect me?

      it effects you far more then it does any terrorist, bucko.

      start reading. read new laws, noathide laws labor laws, patriot act,
      start listening to the words. the bumbler who cant put two words together claims God talks to him
      that he has been chosen to liberate the world.

      i have read thousands of pages on this administration from many sources. i have put two and two and two together and have a good handle on where we are and where we are going. if we continue to allow ourselves to be led by (what i have determined through vast research) evil men, then we will all be swollowed up by this evil evil administration.

    • You forget, the Patriot Act makes averyone a Terrorist. If you don’t tow the party line
      you go to the Gulag. Zeke Heil!

    • The new rules:

      If you object, then you are a terrorist.

    • ...And rounding up "threats to the state" and interning them in concentration camps is necessary to secure the Reich and the German people...

      My Dad gave his youth and his life in 1944 to do his part in fighting this kind of National Socialism crap. Fascism is fascism..makes no mind to me if it is German or American. A tyrant is a tyrant. Period. Some posters on this site in their zeal to seig heil and snap their heels together bear a too close proximity to the Germans of the 1930s trying to rationalize every fiendish law enacted by Germany’s "Savior".

    • Dubya, what are you doing here?

    • comments like this is why the government is able to do what ever they please. People need to wake up before they lose all the freedoms that the constitution gives you.

  • Washington Mutual does not allow customers to store glod or silver in the safe deposit boxxes.

    • That’s cute. WaMu watches over their customers’ shoulders as they utilize their boxes. Or do they just assume people won’t put valuable metals in there because they said not to?
      I would have to guess there are explosives, drugs, body parts, and all kinds of goodies in those boxes.

    • Well, hey! It looks like WaMu is taking the pro-active approach here, if they don’t "allow" anyone to put gold or silver in their safe deposit boxes, & if customers follow the rules, then Big Brother won’t be stealing their precious metals from their safe depost boxes! This isn’t a "plug" for WaMu, just a casual observation. It seems that policy avoids the whole ordeal. Cheers!

  • Easy to believe this when gold prices keep going up and and confidence in the $ is waning. The feds confiscated gold before, as most of you are probably aware.

  • Easy to believe this when gold prices keep going up and and confidence in the $ is waning. The feds confiscated gold before, as most of you are probably aware.

    • I am a daily reader of the New York Times. If we could get some hard evidence of this we could go to the Times and they would publish it, to the 3 million readers they have. But they wont publish on what they call, URBAN LEGENDS, it has to be backed up with proof for them to go out on a limb and publish this. Then we would have 3 million people knowing this, as well as you and I. The reason they never published The Dulce Report is that they had absolutely no evidence that this underground base exists.

    • lol...

      Yes, who killed kennedy? That was in the paper too, huh? Lee O. killed him right?

      LOL

      Sheep...The entire military and Gov operates on keeping secrets secret. Loose lips sink ships.

      Not all of the secrets and plans will appear in the paper.

      Having said all that, you could be right. This is all BS. However, I wouldn’t put any past this grp of thugs.

    • This doesnt make sense in terms of "Feds stealing your money", because at current gold prices the supply of money vastly outstrips the (monetary) value of gold. That could change if the US$ majorly crashes, loses its reserve status (or both) - maybe foreign countries would up the pressure to repay debts in hard assets instead of endlessly inflated dollars.

      Domestically, in a situation of hyperinflation, those holding physical metals will be at a huge advantage in trade as bullion will hold its purchasing power a hellava lot better than paper.

      Good luck guys... at least you still have the 2nd ammendment. In NZ our gun laws are a little stricter.

    • The NYT is PART of the Globalist’s Control MATRIX; why in the WORLD would they give a heads-up on this?

      They spew forth propaganda as a matter of course to help keep sheeple off balance; it is not in the interest of the NYT or their controllers to print naked truth/actual facts relative to matters such as this.

      Time to wake up, my friend; no offence intended toward you.

      WAKE THE F*** UP Y’ALL!!

      We don’t have a lotta time.

    • Why would the NY Times publish such information? Two NYT writers, Reisen and Lichtblau, reported on the NSA wiretapping scandal over a year ago but the Times spiked their stories until a couple of weeks ago, because Bush asked them to do so. Reisen and Lichtblau’s new book based on their investigations, STATE OF WAR, is about to be released and this forced the Times to reveal their findings. But the Times deliberately protected Bush through the election from the voters regarding this massive crime against us, not against the fake terrorists.

    • I guess a reader of the New York Times would believe that that paper would publish something just because it is an important truth. It’s time to stop supporting the criminals and so for starters we must pull our attention away from the mainstream media. Stop reading and listening to them.

    • Dont forget that the New York Times exposed the NSA spying on americans, in their e-mails and phone calls

    • Unfortunately folks the statement here that "if proof were provided the New York Times would print it" is the major problem with America today.
      The level of nieve thinking on the part of seemingly aware adults has allowed the country to be sold down the drain right under your noses, and you still think your multi-billion dollar corperations, and multinational companies will work in the best interest of "We the People". How sad.
      There is no hope folks for anything remotely resembling a change in the present direction of the country, to bring down the American people as a whole.
      The only option left is for the individual to make a personal decision as to whether they will stay and be a statistic, or take what is dear to them and escape before the holocaust unfolds.
      Many millions of people in the late 1930’s in Europe had the same choice. I’m not referring to, just the Jews, as more Christians and Gypsies were killed than Jews, but to all of the aware thinking people of the time who saw the storm approaching and decided to head to a safe harbor before it hit. Or if they couldn’t make it to shore, they battonned down the hatches, gathered what they needed and braced for the full force of the blow. Of course we always hear about the ones who thought it would never go that far, the ones who trusted their governments to protect them or to act in the best interest of the people.

      These were the nieve sheep to the slaughter, and this time it won’t be millions it will be hundreds of millions or more!
      After all they have to get the population down somehow don’t they!

    • this is the way the Illuminati is announcing to the sheep about what is going on...

  • Homeland Insecurity will now take you personals from safe deposit boxes, eh?
    Geezz....let’s empty those puppies and fill them full of dog crap!! Let em get their hands dirty!

    Greyfeather

    www.wintersteel.com/RobertDuncanOFinioan.html

  • They are desparate and need to "pay off" the international bankster boys who are tired of waiting and "want it all now". I hope the system collapses. It NEEDS to . We have 100’s of thousand of jobs due to the jerkoff Congress-Whores and Sena-Whores who have sold the country down the river. Once many years ago we were the worlds premier steel producer. We are NO longer.
    Toyota is NOW the largest car company in the world. My honest opinion is that the founders who wrote that doucment called the Constitution messed up big time when they didn’t put a single term limit in for both houses of 2 years and no compensation afterwords of any kind. Also they should have limited the presidency to one four-year term with 2 completely different Congresses and limit the time Congress could legislate to no more than 1-2 months out of the calendar year. We dont NOT need lifetime politicians like Byrd of West VA or Kennedy of Taxachussetts taxing the crap out of us like they have in teh last 63 years.

    • so now you all see the last days of your "FREEDOM" before your very eyes
      the criminal acts are so blatant...then one must consider what recourse or indeed choice of appropriate actions..one should dispose oneself of in such an obviously orwellian climate.
      The right to be free by those who themselves etc et blah blah seems to be taken away
      so shall we turn this planet into a larger version of nazi germany/AND THE UNITED REPTILEDONUK or shall we just sit by and let a bunch of paedophile drug induced morons decide how we live our lives....... um?wake up folks the planet is now closing please leave the planet...
      go dwon to the local homeland security assholes sorry offices and set them alight,lock them in and incinerate the idiots..just chuck some jet fuel in there...get rid of the problem....breathe a sigh of relief ...relax....or are you happy not doing the necessary to protect your own constitutional rights to bear arms and be free in the land of the fee and the slave.....Ill bet most of you are too shit scared to actually do anything about the common identifiable enemy that you all face within your whitehouse midst....so here you are seeing for your selves the true and evrlasting nature of the mental torture being perpetrated otherwise known as Terrorism....did you ever wonder that"al quaeeda" might have been a ceap trick to create the necessary diversion via fox/cnn/abc brokaw etc to distract you from the reptilians game....they hate you and thier game is just to keep you in fear hatrewd anguyish and sorrow of not having enough through the federal reserve system.....you spend your lifes being cheated robbed mentally abused via media,and swindled from cradle to grave.....and you sit and wonder indeed ponder upon how easy it is for a bunch of child pornograpers and cocaine hustling bushes n clintons to destroy this world we in which we all do and will live.......dont just sit ther pontificating do something.....before its too darned late.....

    • Consider also that many of today’s bank safe deposit boxes use locks with name Diebold on them ...the same Diebold company which pledged its support to deliver George W. Bush to the White House.

      diebold_pres.jpg

      # # #

    • I’m sure similar measures to confiscate private wealth will be put in place all around the world, as the global economy nosedives. The powers that be surely don’t mind us discussing the issues, as long as nobody actually tries to DO anything about it. Talking about it might be good therapy for us and generates a sense of community, but in the end they will do what they’re gonna do anyway! At the end of the day, the relevant legislation has been introduced that allows the government to bring in the military to subdue any malcontents who object to the confiscation of their wealth. As we voted for them, we have only ourselves to blame.

    • YEA...RIGHT ON. MY FRIEND...

    • The Founders DID work term limits into the Constitution. They’re called elections! If you don’t like the jerks YOU elected then vote them out office instead of whining about it.

    • Every time I think I’ve heard it all, something like this pops up.

    • You people are insane. Complete tin foil hat wearing nut bags.

      Carry on..LOL.

    • Complaining about it is part of the process of throwing the bums out. It’s not whining.

    • what election are you talking about. Every president since FDR was ’picked’...there is no elections..

    • Okay, let me clear something up to those who would automatically black-ball Diebold (the company I work for):

      1. Former CEO Wally O’Dell, not Diebold as a whole, said he would ’do what it takes’ to get Bush re-elected. There is a reason he is no longer with the company. He didn’t make many friends in the banking industry, and I’m sure that statement didn’t make him to popular, either.

      2. The SD locks that Diebold manufactures have absolutely NOTHING to do with this! Part of my job is drilling open safe deposit boxes (with Diebold locks installed) for customers who have lost their keys, lock has malfunctioned, etc. There is no "trick" Diebold possesses to opening these boxes outside of our trained skills. Also, the bank does NOT (by Federal Law) possess both keys that are required to unlock an SD lock! Do you know how I know they can’t do this? Because we don’t give them both keys (called the Customer Keys, and Guard Key)...their customers have 1 (actually, a pair of customer keys), and the bank has the other (the guard key). In some newer branches, the bank doesn’t even have a guard key - the lock is set up to be used with only the customer key!

      3. I’ll say this to anyone that says, ’Diebold, oh, don’t they make voting machines?’ My reply is ’yeah, but sometimes we make locks’ (with heavy sarcasm), as well all manner of physical security equipment (vault doors, safes, mechanical and electronic locks), ATM hardware and software packages, DVR systems for cameras, alarm panels and equipment, and VATs (the drive-up tubes at a bank). :)

    • I think you are a little confused. If I want to close a safe deposit box, I turn in the customer keys to the bank. That is also where they come from. So how do you not give them both keys? They are the ones that handle opening anc closing the safe deposit accounts!

      Also, though a key maker is not supposed to, safe deposit box keys can be copied (though it is illegal to do so, how would someone find out).

      Furthermore, I have read that Diebold CAN move boxes. How could they not have access to the content but still move the box? Our SD box is a plastic box with a lid and no lock! The only thing that does lock is the SD DOOR. So if the box can be moved at all, or the SD door replaced, etc., any random person in the are could just lift the lid!

      By the way you all, most of you are a bit extreme. Also, the problems aren’t limited to the U.S. Its pretty much everyone everywhere.

  • I read this a couple of times and I don’t see where they say they are confiscating anything. They just need to keep precious metals from flooding markets and devaluing the dollar. As usual.
    http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/petrov011606.html
    I do resent not being allowed to possess all my property, and the firearm thing is particularly annoying. Not market related.

  • I read this a couple of times and I don’t see where they say they are confiscating anything. They just need to keep precious metals from flooding markets and devaluing the dollar. As usual. The materials technically will remain in your box, and by proxy, in your possession. (Not that confiscation can’t occur later on down the road.)

    "She said they were told how only agents from Homeland Security (during such an event) would be in charge of opening safe deposit boxes and determining what items would be given to bank customers.
    At this point they were told that no weapons, cash, gold, or silver will be allowed to leave the bank - only various paperwork will be given to its owners. "

    I do resent not being allowed to possess all my property. The gov’t is basically a bully (American definition).

  • I am not sure I find this credible, but in principle it is very possible and likely.

    In the event of a collapse of the US economy, I don’t see myself marching to the bank to take my gold out. I would assume, as in the 30’s or Argentina more recently, the banks would simply lock their doors and we would be told that no withdrawals are allowed or any kind.

    If you believe such a scenario is possible, and you are worried about getting a little petrol or something to eat, heat, transportation, or protection, it would be much smarter to have store small denomination gold coins in a safe place outside of any bank. In this situation, gold could be $1000 or likely more an oz. How can you purchase food or petrol with a coin worth $1000? What will you take for change?

    In this situation, people will be forced to use other media of exchange, such as medicines, batteries, cigarettes, drugs, ammunition, guns, radios, sex, or who knows, maybe even bottled water.

    Large stores of gold aren’t going to be much good for daily needs. As protection against larger dimensions of economic collapse, it would be best to go offshore. Be sure there is a way to access your money that does not involve wiring it to a US bank, because this will not be permitted. Get a checkbook or debit card that can be used in Canada, Mexico, or Europe. Don’t forget, when the dollar collapses, it will drag half the world into the toilet with it. It’s not like the US is going to get a loan from the World bank for a bail out.

  • Well, the answer is quite obvious! Don’t store gold, silver, cash or firearms at the bank! Get a good safe and keep those items at home!

  • RESIST THE METRIC SYSTEM!!!

  • Within the last two months, the government has tried (once successfully and once not) to confiscate money from my husband’s bank account. We are not the only people who have had this happen to them. My husband went to check his balance and found he was $3.000 short. I researched and found the gov. had said we owed them money, but we don’t. No warning, no letter, etc. They just took the money. I then found out they were planning to take another $2.000. We got an attorney and put a stop to it. I told my husband to figure out a way to close his account and soon. While talking to a friend about this, our friend’s own brother got $10.000 taken recently!!!. They definitely know when people usually get their big deposits and then take the money. By the way, the gov. has the second check that was issued from our bank for $2,000 sitting in their office and refuses to return it to the court, saying they don’t have it. We are all screwed and can be wiped out at any time without them caring what happens.

  • During the Crash of ’29, my great uncle tried to get into the bank to remove the contents of his safe deposit box and discovered that a large chain and padlock held the door to the bank closed. When he finally managed to get in, a few weeks later, he discovered that every lockbox had been rifled and his gold and precious stones were nowhere to be found. He figured he lost more than a million 1929 dollars in that bank!

  • RE: Homeland Security To Confiscate Bank Safe Deposit Box Contents

    Only if you are suspected of being a terrorist or an illegal alien. If you are a US citizen and not a terrorist then this is good news.

    • But citizen might be evil person while illigal or legal alien, non citizen might be person society should appreciate

  • in one paragraph you say that only upper management has be told of this supposed secret message and then in the next paragraph you say you asked a young bank employee and he answered affirmatively. Doesn’t match does it? Then you end with "the criminals in charge." I guess we know where you come from

  • I do not at all find this surprising, especially since Bank of America is involved. I am a victim of B of A abuses and because of their funny accounting they took me for around $20,000 I paid in extra principal on a mortgage. My Congressman at the time was on the House Banking Committee, and of course, nothing was done to get these crooks to admit thier error. I had the documents because B of A sent me loan copies, yet they continues to lie. I’d suggest that anyone using this bank go somewhere else.
    Emma

  • This as well as a couple other articles would clearly explain why they will no longer make the M-3 public starting in March.

  • Id like to know what kind of well-worded questions. Can I ask at my bank?    G.        Personal note: Id like the rest of the world know that Canada is no where near siding with the Americans in regard to any mistreatment of any persons of any nationality. Our Government looks like it may be highjacked as well. God be with you all. G.

  • Well I searched the US Code, talked to two bank VP’s I know (from different banks and one being my mom), called a few different banks (Wells Fargo, USBank, and a some local ones), and none ever heard of such a thing. A liitle more proof please.

  • I recently upgraded my box at WAMU bank and a handout that I was given stated that
    money was not allowed in the box.

    Brian

  • The Onion
    U.S. Holds Going-Out-Of-Business Sale
    January 17, 2006 | Issue 42•03
    http://www.theonion.com/content/node/44455

    WASHINGTON, DC—In an address broadcast on late-night television Tuesday, President Bush announced that the federal government will liquidate its holdings in a going-out-of-business sale scheduled to begin Friday.

    After 200-plus years of service, the U.S. government is closing its doors.
    "The U.S. government, America’s place for law and order since 1776, has lost its lease, and everything must go, go, go," Bush said. "But our loss is your gain, and make no mistake: You, the people, would be crazy to miss out on these amazing closeout bargains."

    The Washington-based government, which hasn’t shown a profit in five years and carries the highest debt in its history, was ultimately driven out of business by costly overhead and cheap foreign competitors. As a result, Bush said, everything—from flag stands and Capitol cafeteria flatware to legislation dating from the early days of the republic—will be marked down 30 to 90 percent.

    "Get yourself a piece of history, or just stock up on your favorite items—whatever it is, chances are we’ve got it," said Bush, wearing a 10-gallon hat and standing before a chroma-key background of the National Mall as a list of federal items and their discounted prices scrolled down the screen. "But act fast, because deals like these will not last."

    White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters Tuesday that the millions of "useful and collectible" items on sale will appeal to collectors and office-supply bargain hunters alike.

    "Gently used Capitol police vehicles, $899.99," McClellan said. "The American-flag lapel pin, seen on America’s hottest legislators—get yours for an incredible $1.99. A beautiful Lincoln Bedroom suite, just $399.00. Multiline desk phones, U.S. Virgin Islands, and the Economic Opportunity Act Of 1964—buy one, get one free. And warehouses full of irregular and discontinued U.S. currency, up to an amazing 40 percent off!"

    "See this ’The White House—Washington’ doodad hanging behind me?" added McClellan, gesturing at the familiar oval symbol that has graced the White House press-briefing room for nearly two decades. "Only $39.99. And if you want the Pentagon symbol, just $70 for the pair, and we’ll throw in the blue drapes for free."

    Shoppers at a Minneapolis-area Best Buy watch a commercial for the U.S. liquidation sale.
    Portions of the nuclear and conventional weapons stockpile will also be for sale to the public. According to McClellan, the weapons are of "much better quality than those of our former Soviet-bloc competitors."

    The 50 states will be sold at auction, the date to be announced.

    Beltway observers are expressing surprise at the massive liquidation, recalling that Washington hasn’t seen a sales event like this one since President Jimmy Carter’s "Metric System Blowout" of 1979. Many have faulted Bush for maintaining a line of inventory that holds little use for most Americans.

    "The U.S. government has been on shaky ground for some time, but I think all the fast-depreciating goods President Bush bought to keep it responsive and relevant in the 21st century really sealed its fate," Business Week reporter David Broder said. "I don’t see Canada, Japan, or Germany investing in thousands of airport X-ray screening machines. [Bush] will be lucky if he recoups even a tenth of what he paid for them."

    While many younger Americans said they consider the U.S. government passé, older residents were wistful about the demise of the longtime institution.

    "I just don’t know what I’ll do when the U.S. shuts down," said Vermont resident and loyal U.S. consumer David Wilson. "Who’s going to deliver the mail or put out my house if it catches fire? I guess we’ll have to switch to Verizon or something."

    Some remain skeptical about the government’s claims of insolvency, saying that it’s just a ploy to generate fast cash. "I distinctly recall a going-out-of-business sale during the Reagan Administration," New Mexico resident Jim Vernon said. "And even if they do close up, I’ll bet you dollars to doughnuts they open up again some place like Guatemala or the Dominican Republic under a new name."

    While no date has been set for Washington’s final day of governance, Bush assured the public that the sale is "definitely it, folks."

    "When it’s gone, it’s gone," Bush said.

  • Hey America!;-)
    Snake Plisken here! Well, that figures! Typical run of the mill "bankrobber barons" they are! They don’t have to steal a bank to rob a bank, they run the banks themselves and steal from hard working class workers of this world all for themselves! I really laugh at the situations about these characters when they want to steal from the working class of this planet just to pocket it for themselves and when they charge for services unrendered, you kind of wonder where is someone going to get the money to buy these local products all over the world. They are the ones controling the money situation. Well, I say that if they want to have their productions around the world baught in local stores around the world, then they are going to have to cut loose on the oppresive schemes to pocket stolen money or else the situation will get worse all over the world and soon hardly no one is going to buy their products because money is running ouot and sooner or later, the rich and shameless are going to suffer from the more rich and shameless and the cycle keeps running until no one can buy their products cause the circle is not going round and round. Oh well! It’s THEIR LOSS, and not really the consumer! Hey Rich and shameless of this world, you don’t provide the cash we need as we honestly work with our hands to grind, you don’t provide the cash, we can’t pay for your services rendered! Just that simple! And by the way, my father used to work for JP Morgan. I know how the Federal Reserve works. And to that largest piece of make-believe trash I say this! Stick it in your ear with your paper money! Come up with resourses better then what you have or the money you get won’t be worth a cent! Count on it!;-)

    S.D. Bob Plisken
    Call me Snake

  • and GET THIS:

    To top it off the Department of Homeland Security said that if the Customer drove up in a car that the bank should impound the car; take the person’s billfold and currency; demand he call his wife to come to the bank as a hostage; send a bank officer to the school to pick up his kids. They also indicated that the Customer must immediately sign over a quit claim deed to the Department of Homeland for all his property and then sign a slave labor contract agreeing that he/she will work for the Bank for nothing until his death. Strange but TRUE!

  • Looks like the script for this action was written back in Germany in the late 30’s.
    The Bushmeister learned well from his grandfathers dealings with Hitler Germany!
    As Mussolini said:" this is the cycle of fascism" "Il Ciclo de faschismo"(sp)

  • As a U.S. veteran in the 91 gulf war ,I can’t believe Americans are not going crazy over this.Bush and friends want total control over everything we do and think.It’s called "New World Order".WAKE UP AMERICA and stop these people from destroying the Constitution and our liberties for total domination of our lives.The movie "1984" says it all.This country is in deep trouble if AMERICA DOES NOT WAKE UP.It is very sad to watch this going on and can’t do anything about it.In my opinion a total revolution needs to take place in order for real changes to take place.This country is soon going to a dictatorship it’s coming very soon.I guess then we can understand how Nazi Germany was.

  • I’ve been telling you people for years now: The guys in black overcoats, flying in black helicopters 24/7 are flying in ever tigher circles, ready to land at your own plantation and whisk your first born away into one of Arizona’s many (unknown whereabouts) concentration camps. Better logoff now, since that big bad boy in the White House is monitoring this very cyber-exchange. I’d also recommend you stockpile a lot of MRE’s in case you have to take it on the lam and hang out in the local mountains or forests. Good luck and good riddance to all you phobia-ridden nuts!

  • I do not know what to think.

  • Well, it doesn’t surprise me. In fact, I’ve been thinking of pulling my bank account anyway for several years due to this real threat. One poster is right. The Feds can do whatever they pretty well please and they are able to deny we citizens access to our safe deposit boxes and cash for any pretext they choose.

    I have been thinking of alternatives to using banks or credit unions. Mason jars; a shovel from the hardware store and a moonless night in my backyard???

    • At one time in my life, I thought I had a
      handle on the meaning of the word "service." "It’s the act of doing
      things for other people."

      Then I heard these terms which reference the word

      SERVICE:
      Internal Revenue Service
      Postal Service
      Telephone Service
      Civil Service
      City & County Public Service
      Customer Service
      Service Stations

      Then I became confused about the word "service ." This is not what I
      thought "service" meant.

      So today, I overheard two farmers talking, and one of them said he had
      hired a bull to "service " a few of his cows. BAM! It all came into
      perspective. Now I understand what all those "service"
      agencies are doing to us.

      I hope you now are as enlightened as I am.

  • I work for a large bank also, I deal with safe deposit boxes... I have heard nothin of the sort... if homeland security was at a bofa branch there must of been something there at that bank in the box... HOmeland security dept would be doing these things with some high level corporate officers... not a branch manger.

    also if you were demanding to know about bank policy & homeland security... and the bank wasn’t suppost to tell you about it. demanding to know or else, will just get you the "or else".... I would expect to hear the banker say" sign here to close your box and accounts".

  • Well...I just read your story about Bank Of America and I have to say that you have your facts wrong. I am currently employed by Bank Of America and we have had no such training. No one has access to anyone’s deposit box unless they have a federal court order. We hand out the rules governing the boxes and that includes not having cash or firearms in them. The only way to open the boxes without the renters permission ....AGAIN...is with a federal court order. Please find out your facts before publishing false information.

    Sincerely,

    Kimberly

    • I presume under a "national emergency" through martial law, Homeland Security could be given the right to do just about anything even without a Federal court order..I believe that if the U.S. dollar falls apart the Government may want your gold, platinum and maybe silver. They’ll pay you in paper worth nothing ( thats if you were complying with them in the first place). This would be a desperate but necessary action on their part. What better place to "head off at the pass" the Gold coins in a great national emergency than the safe deposit boxes at the banks! That’s where perhaps a great many if not most people hoard their precious metals. No need to undergo extensive paper investigations here to find out where people might have purchased their coins and bullion.

      Ace

    • You said...

      "Well...I just read your story about Bank Of America and I have to say that you have your facts wrong. I am currently employed by Bank Of America and we have had no such training. No one has access to anyone’s deposit box unless they have a federal court order. We hand out the rules governing the boxes and that includes not having cash or firearms in them. The only way to open the boxes without the renters permission ....AGAIN...is with a federal court order. Please find out your facts before publishing false information."
      Sincerely,

      Kimberly

      As if you being a B of A employee is supposed to hold some kind of merit! Are you so niaeve and foolish that you actually believe that if there was a national disaster and the U.S. economy went bankrupt that the feds would actually stop and say..."Hey wait a second here guys, we have to secure a federal court order before we can confiscate the contents of these safe deposit boxes"

      If you truly believe that, then I have a beautiful newly retro fitted orange suspension bridge in the San Francisco bay that I will sell you at a bargian price!! Title of sole ownership and all, it evens comes fully equipped with it’s very own toll booths, just think you could set your own toll fees for people to travel on your bridge!! The cash will be flowing in faster than you can get it to your nearest B of A!! You will need to enlist an army of dump trucks to haul all the cash away!!

    • I have had a safe deposit box at a BofA bank in Arizona for over 15 years and am aware of no advisory that it is forbidden to keep firearms or cash in a safe deposit box. I have kept both at times in our box. - Ralph

    • The small amount of gold and silver in private american hands would not help much in a run on the dollar, but the negative public relations such confiscation by the feds would create would be huge (read some of the above posts). The dollar has been destroyed by the washington crowd, yet this very crowd would dare to demand the wealth of all americans to help stabalize that which the washinton crowd has destroyed? If it comes to confiscation of your gold and silver, I suggest you grind the metals to dust, and blow the dust out of you car windows as you drive down the interstate highway at 70 mph. If the neocons want you gold and silver, they had better have a really good vacuum cleaner! Actually, uncle sam already has 8,000 tons of gold in storage. If the dollar dies, a new currency based on those 8,000 tons could be created. Or better yet, keep the dollar for domestic use, and create a seperate gold back currency for foreign transactions. Regardless, stealing the publics small gold and silver holdings would be counter productive, and punish the very people who have warned of the coming dollar debacle.

  • I read something to the effect the other day. However, I didn’t know if it was true or not. I already knew about not keeping a safe deposit box at the bank. The same confiscation happened during the bank runs during the 1929 depression.

    • Thank you guys, I have heared enough. I take my money from the bank before there is a rush to do that. Now I am in time and I had already experience that they have not much available for a big withedrawel even when it is a cheching account without any interest. If you go to the bank and ask $ 40,000 then they have to give you cheques for other banks to cash it. Tanks again, it is time now.
      Herbert

    • Some people have remarked that when the value of gold reaches $1000 an ounce or more (a good probabilty) then it would be difficult to use these gold coins for purchase of everyday goods worth considerable less than the coin. What form will the "change" be in? There is an easy answer to this. Many Gold coins come in denominations as little as 1/10 ounce or less. This would be a $100 for the 1/10 ounce coin. It is possible also to use silver for the smaller purchases in the event of a monetary (i.e. cash) collapse. Of course barter is another option.There is no question that gold, silver and platinum and perhaps some other very rare items would be the best form of medium of exchange (money) before direct barter. Under these circumstances the cash can be burned to heat up your morning coffee! (this was actually done in the German hyperinflationary period)
      .
      Ace

    • Hey, Don’t worry : be happy! Information like this at one time would piss me off. Not anymore. Tomorrow morning I’ll go buy another 100 rounds of ammo. Ah I feel better already! OUM

    • Ive read this thread from top to bottom, and quite frankly im amazed where you get all this crap from. Id guess that some (not all) of you are just jobless fools who have nothing better to do all day than scour the web for conspiracy theories, or your job has nothing to do with finance or banking. if it did, then a good 3/4 of this thread wouldnt exist!
      I live in england and work for a large american investment bank where im a VP - I know the american banking system inside out, upside down. I simply cannot be bothered to explain the ins and outs here in relation to BS that some of you guys have posted here, I just want you to carry on tho please, as i find it really amusing. This isnt totally fair as there are some ’facts’ mixed in with all this but... none of its new....

      you muppets!

    • How come we get half the bank people saying, "there is no such thing" and the other half saying, "Yes, this is old news."

      Can the bank people please reach a concensus before they post any more comments?

    • This Bank VP is believing only jobless fools, who have nothing to do are taking part in discussions here and that it is (stupid) crap. This Bank VP has a full job and says he has read this crap from top top bottom. Why? Has he nothing better to do? To find this subject he seems to have a lot of time to search the net like jobless muppets to defend banks and his job. Well, I don’t blame American Banks, I simply hate any Bank on experience. They are the same all over the world and make money with money, not with producing something to make money. They are ruthless in the view of the mass. In spite of that these Banks don’t like governments to infiltrate in their business to please their clients, but in a case of emergency necessity knows no law. A safety box has never been safe. Even if your husband or wife passes away most of the time the box is sealed to “protect” the content. If you go bankrupt or get a claim for whatever reason, they seal your box if they know you have one. And authorities know. Such a box is far from safe and to think so is a big, big mistake that can ruin you from one day to the next. Of course you have to take responsibility for debts you make or cause, and from that point of view it is not a crime to seal a safety deposit box just like to seizure your house. But emergency knows no law for both parties so both should know the rules of the games. Usually afterwards you find out a lot of banking rules and government rules when a problem has risen and then it is to late. So forget the reassurance of your Bank VP, he doesn’t take a honest share in this discussion, it is bank-policy. Be sure he will give you the right information after something bad happens to you, not before it happens. This safety deposit box subject is far from BS and crap. Probably he himself is searching the Rense site daily to know what is really happening in the world and if you are well informed you are at least prepared. By the way, in this subject only few people are involved, it is not a threat to the banking system or the government at all, so why is that VP so fucked up?
      Dannie

    • Muppet #1026 here...

      Yep some of us are jobless fools. Out of work because our jobs continue to disappear to cheaper labor sites around the world.

      I want to say to all the people who think that your money and valuables are safe at the bank: Yes- you are absolutely correct. By all means, please, DO NOT pay attention to stories like this that are backed with absolutely no evidence. This is crazy conspiracy crap that doesn’t merit the bandwidth and space it takes on the ’net. Nothing more than evidence of how easy it is for a few crazies to stir people gullible people up. Without a doubt, this is all gibberish and isn’t even worth the time it takes to read. But thanks for sharing your comments with all the lost, crazy, insane, tin-hat wearing folk. I know for myself atleast, I really appreciate them. I want to encourage all of you to prove us idiots wrong. Continue to keep your assets in paper, in the control of the banks. Don’t change a thing.

      For the rest of ya- keep your tin hats on. And get yourselves out of these systems quick like. Time truly is getting short.

    • Muppet #1026 is right. Which stupid creature can believe that governments and banks would hurt the common people? Day after day they fight for our security, wealth and health. They will never ever steal something from your safety deposit box and they never did. So Muppet #1026, be happy the banks provide these boxes for you and that the authorities are informed where yours is situated. It is an extra security because they keep an eye on the bank. You cannot be better off.

  • I didn’t think anyone was still depositing their checks in the bank. Only leave enough in your account so that your bank will allow you to take the rest in cash, usually half your check.
    Pay everything in CASH. DO NOT charge anything, do not give the system ANYTHING to draw interest on. I read a similar article about 4 months ago about the theft of safe deposit boxes by the Ministry of Homeland Surveillance in a time of another Bush administration created crisis. You will not have that little nest egg to buy a quick ticket out of the country or, extra food for your kids. You will literally be penniless, all of you. Only to be removed to a concentration camp near you.
    REMOVE EVERY LAST DOLLAR, CASH OUT YOUR BONDS, EXTRACT EVERY LAST BIT OF RESERVES YOU HAVE ANYWHERE IN ANY FORM. LEAVE THE COUNTRY, PERMANENTLY. CHANGE YOUR NAME, AND YOUR CITIZENSHIP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, GET RID OF YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY TRACKING NUMBER.
    If you aren’t financially able to leave the Great Satan, then GO RETRO. Trade in your car for a 70’s or early 80’s model. You can do most maintenance yourself and there are no BLACK BOX trackers on them. I know it’s tough but get rid of that Cell phone (people tracker) in your pocket. DO NOT order Pizza from your phone it is logged and easy information to retrieve if someone is looking for you. CANCEL ALL CHARGE CARDS and when you mail your next payment to them make sure it is from a PO BOX, don’t make it easy for Big Brother, get a new home phone number that is unlisted and make sure you block it when you call out. If an answering machine on the other end says you must identify yourself, consider them a threat to your safety and call them from a neutral phone. Do whatever it takes to try and get below the Fascist radar.
    And remember most important of all, if bad guys come for you or your neighbors gun control is using two hands.

  • Thank goodness my bank accounts are pretty dull...predictable and unworthy of monitoring. I have no regular friends overseas so there is no trail of international intrique.
    As long as they don’t steal my identity...I have no problem with our government trying to protect us from any bad guys.

  • is this for only BANK OF AMERICA and COMPASS ?

  • Who are you notepad?

    How long did it take you to come up with this bogus story?

    Please anyone... Do what he/she asks and question your bank, then post the results here!

    • Ask your Bank? Who is the Bank? Somebody there who knows everything doesn’t talk to you. If somebody does, he/she will simply say: “don’t bother, “we” are your bank and we are here to protect your money, it is our job. We highly appreciate your business” and so on. If you ask a delicate question straightforward you see their faces darken and they will give you an answer as far as it does not hurt their own business. If it is very delicate to them they try to go around the subject and realize you have no change against professionals. You are fighting blindfolded, believe me. And if governments come in with inside information for them, not to talk about, what do you think is de quality of the answer you get as a layman? “ Of course, you can ask your bank but realize what I told you above and use your own brains and feelings.
      Have you ever listened to George Carlin? This customer care subject is a great act in one of his shows.
      Ellie

    • For the second time in 3 days I visited with a BofA branch manager and asked if she or the bank had received any instructions from Homeland Security on how to handle access to safety deposit boxes in a national emergency." In both cases, the replies were NO. I then showed her a copy of the article and ask for her comment. In the second case, at our branch, the manager called the legal department in my presence and read the article to whomever. The reply was basically that "whomever" had heard nothing about it. I then suggested that this article could damage BofA’s name and that they ought to run it to ground, and the manager seemed to agree with me. Our visit lasted abut 20 minutes. I left her with a copy of the bellaciao article and a cover letter requesting an investigation of the report and a reply with their findings. May I suggest others take similar action, even just a letter to your BofA branch requesting investigations and a reply.

  • I had recently seen information related to this on a site about buying gold. It said that you had to list what was in your box, so you wouldn’t want to store your gold there. It said it was part of the patriot act. I tried to find it in the patriot act and gave up, not finding it.

    I believe it was on http://www.assetstrategies.com/ somewhere in that web site and a reason to buy Australian Perth Gold Certificates.

    I think I will stick with the real thing and will not be putting it any bank deposit box. Good to know that someone else has confirmed this info.

    • What about Australia as a good hideaway?? HaHa!
      Australia,s PM is in Bushes pocket ala the Iraqi Oil for Food scandal where we paid $300million in bribes to Sadam,s trucking co.
      In exchange of course for trade rights with US I presume.
      Some of our politicians want a local Homeland Security Act too so know where they are coming from! The dark side!
      Yes U can buy Perth Mint gold & silver certificates but would U trust ANYONE with your physical precious metals in times of crisis! Phew I must get mine out soon!
      We are all in trouble as warned by the good Lord a long time ago. Just do a google on the
      masonic/occult layout of Washington DC & Vatican Square & Parliament House Canberra Australia.
      Their mark is over everything & soon they shall try to put it on your forehead or hand.
      We have 60,000 Indonesian troops nearby in western Papua which we gave to Indo! How many more are grinning at us & waiting in Indonesia for orders??
      Our PM hugs & embraces our potential enemies. Who loves whom, hard to tell at times.

    • Read through this article and you may find the source of this information

      http://www.arcticbeacon.com/26-Jan-2006b.html

  • Several years ago a doctor friend of mine had asked me if I would like to join him to a Sunday afternoon meeting that he had been attending for some time. These people had gotten together so they could discuss all the problems we Americans are having with our Constitutional Rights being lost and everything else that involved us and our government. One of the first things I had heard about was a plan to bust the economy and at the right time crash our money system. The government would have all banking institutions lock there doors for ten days, "this was to be called a banking holiday". They would then decide whether we would continue to use the same currency or to create a new one. If they kept the same you would not be able to withdrawel more than $100.00 a day, regardless of how much you may have. And if they decided on a new currency everyone was going to start at zip. Your wealth would be gone. Also, any wealth in an safety deposit box would be lost. I had a hard time with this at first wondering how much these people might be strechting some of these stories. After attending these meetings for a couple months I met a gentleman that was attending his first meeting, he worked in the banking business for 27 years and was in the upper rankings at this bank. After about a month or so he came to a Sunday meeting and started to tell us about a call the bank had received that week from the government. He stated how if the government called them again that they were to immediatly to lock the doors and then he stated everything to the letter what we had discussed several months earlier. He also added how liitle cash the banks actually have at any one time. "Very Little" K.J.

  • I think this is just one more sign of impending economic disaster in this country.

    Our dollar is currently pegged, and supported, by petrodollars. Instead of making friends, Bush has made enemies of those with the oil. He attacked Iraq, not because of WMD, but because Saddam started trading his oil in Euros. Iran now threatens to do the same.

    Domestic wiretapping, freezing all internationally convertable commodities such as gold, etc should be a warning sign that they want to be prepared in case of martial law.

  • I think Americans should Confiscate their country back from Bush, and the IRS and appoint someone that will listen to the people and is ruled by the people.

    Remember, the president and the government is supposed to be employed by the poeple and is just representing the peoples views, not his/their own.

    Also:

    REMOVE USELESS RULES AND INSTITUTIONS
     Remove the partiot act
     Remove the Homeland Security
     Remove parties (Democrat, Republican) Why not choose a leader with common sence and not what party they are in? Same with laws, they should be voted on by all americans, not just people in the government.

    INVEST IN AMERICA
     Add a high outsourcing Taxes (Keep jobs in America)
     If a product is sold in America, any services or warranties that come with it must be provided by people in America
     Add a high import tax (bring back manufactoring to America as well as jobs)
     Add a high tax on import of Gasoline.
     Rid America of dependency of Gasoline / Retrofit Cars with a hydrogen system
     Allow more home grown Bio-Diesel and Clean burning Diesel cars to be built.
     push for more diesel-hybird type of cars

    Goal: Make America in to a productive country and reinvset in itself rather then keep it a consumer nation that fuels China’s, Pakistan’s, Indonesian’s and Indias Government.

    When was the last thing you bought that was made in the USA?

  • Hi
    I am myself in Orange County california haveing lot of problem with Safe Deposit Box Issue
    My Branch is in Garden Grove CA and I also had a Safe Deposit Box in Irvine California
    I think Bank of America and and their Employees are CROOKS they never talk straight and they steal from customers.To undestand my story more in detail please go to my Website and read the full story , very soon you will be hearing on MEDIA.

    Please contact me if there is any information you can provide that will be very helpfull
    Thanks
    laila

    Website--- www.bankofamericaextortioninsidejob.com
    Email --- lailasltn@yahoo.com

  • Yesterday I asked at my local BoA about specific instructions from Homeland Security regarding future access to contents of safe deposit boxes. The answer I got left me feeling terribly uneasy. Though a firm denial was given, it felt very much like a lie. What was clear, however, was that there has been / is ongoing communication with Homeland Security. The first answer I got firmly acknowledged this.

  • This is going too far! It’s time to wake up people and put the hammer down!

    • See www.piquapress.com (this is correct spelling ) for "The Plan" that americans will follow with regard to every aspect of life, after they turn their backs on their government.

  • All four of my grown kids are in the banking business. Two different, major banks in Southern California. Two of them are branch managers. Not one of the four has heard one word about any of this. Hope it calms a few nerves. It sure calmed mine.

    • My great uncle had a small plot of land, grew vegetables and had a cow for milk. When Roosevelt closed the banks he had two thousand hard earned dollars in it. That bank never re-opened. He never got over it. He hated the government to his dying day.
      Now i as a retired person have to buy most everything from Walmart. Last night as i got read to go to bed i noticed that every article of clothing i took off, my shoes, underware, jeans and t-shirt all were made in China. I never meant to buy everything from China but it happened anyway.

    • Don worry ’bout gold ’n’ silver. Dey give you nice leetle chip in your hand for it. For land dey give you leetle bit food...if you nice ’bout it.

    • what language are you speaking?

  • The exact reason I have a safe at home!! And that’s about all I have to say except I have always felt being a child of the 60’s that the less the Gov’t knows and has to do with my personal life the better. Thanks for sharing this info you are courageous to do so!

  • FROM: REVEREND RICHARD ANDRESKI/P.O. BOX 1344/MILLERSVILLE, MD 21108.

    PURSUANT TO YOUR ARTICLE, IF INDEED WHAT IS SAID IN THE ARTICLE IS TRUE — WHY HAVEN’T YOU CONTACTED PEOPLE LIKE BILL OREILLY AT FOX NEWS OR RUSH LIMBAUGH AT EIB NETWORK? THEY WILL SURELY JUMP ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND GET IT TO THE PUBLIC. I RECEIVED A COPY OF THIS ARTICLE FROM A FRIEND. FINALLY, IF IT IS TRUE---- I’LL CANCEL MY ACCOUNT AT BOA AND MOVE ELSEWHERE. TELL THE WORLD!!!!!! COME ON NOW.

    REV. RICHARD ANDRESKI

    • O’REILLY?????!!!!!
      LIMBAUGH?????!!!!
      FOX NEWS????!!!!!
      SURELY, THEY WOULD JUMP ON THIS AND GET THE TRUTH OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
      YEAH, JUST LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO.

  • I very recently took 33,500. cash out of my safety deposit & bundled it up & carried it to Thialand to purchase a condo ; I felt wiring it over would arouse too much suspision ? What a "NIGHTMARE" CARRYING THAT BUNDLE IN YOUR POCKET THROUGH (5) screening Airports to my final destination !! Then only go though the Explanation - "THAT IT WASN’T "DIRTY MONEY " FOR YOU NOT Knowing that term ? It’s Money made through drugs or evading TAXES ! It was earned the honest way --- by the way !! Won’t resort to any more Safety deposit boxes any more !! —BURY IT IN THE BACK YARD !!

  • GREETINGS AND SALUTATIONS TO YOU ALL
    WHEN I READ THIS TODAY,
    I WAS SO APPALLED, I THOUGHT IT WAS A SPAMJOKE OR SOMETHING!
    WHEN I FINALLY REALIZED THAT WHAT I WAS READING WAS NO JOKE,
    WAS IN FACT A REALITY....
    I WAS FURIOUS....
    AND THAN PLAIN AND SIMPLY
    SCARED S@!*LESS.
    WE THE PEOPLE,
    IN FACT,
    THE WHOLE NATION ARE AT A CROSSROADS
    AND IN THE GREATEST DANGER WE HAVE EVER FACED.
    OUR ENEMY IS NOT, DESPITE WHAT BUSH SAYS
    "TERRORISTS"
    BUT IN TRUTH, THE THREATIS FROM OUR VERY OWN GOVERNMENT...
    IM SURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SEEING THE TREND
    HOMELAND SECURITY BEING IMPLEMENTED AFTER 911.......
    AND THAN IT WAS THE PATRIOT ACT.....
    (SUPPOSEDLY PASSED FOR OUR PROTECTION"
    THE WAR UPON IRAQ WITH THE PREMISE
    "HUMANITARIAN NEED"
    AND THE RELIEVING OF THE OPRESSION OF THOSE,
    "POOR PEOPLE"
    UNDERNEATH SADDAM HUSSAIN’S TYRRANICAL RULE.
    AS THE REASON FOR INVADING IRAQ.....
    OF COURSE WE KNOW THAT
    THAT WAS A TOTAL LIE.........
    THE REALITY AND THE UNVARNISHED TRUTH OF IT ALL IS SIMPLY THIS,

    OIL.

    AND THE CONTROL OF THAT RESOURCE IS THE
    BE ALL
    AND
    END ALL
    OF WHY WE ARE EMBROILED IN THIS WAR AGAINST TERRORISM.
    THINK ABOUT IT.

    WE ARE A PETROLIUM BASED SOCIETY.

    WHERE DO WE GET THE MAJORITY OF OUR OIL FROM??

    THE MIDDLE EAST.

    WHY WAS OPEC FORMED??

    TO PROTECT OUR INTERST AND MAINTAIN THE CONTINUITY OF OUR SUPPLY.
    OIL FUEL’S
    (NO PUN INTENDED)
    AND IS THE BASIS FOR NOT ONLY OUR ECONOMY,
    IT IS THE COMMON AND UNIVERSAL FORM OF CURRANCY FOR ALMOST EVERY KNOWNNATION AND PEOPLES AROUND THE WORLD.
    IT IS THE FOUNDATION UPON WHICH OUR SOCIETY AS A WHOLE,
    FUNCTIONS.
    THEN ALONG CAME THE PATRIOT ACT NUMBER 2
    AND NOW RECENTLY THE HTOLY DEBATED PET BILL OF BUSH’S
    WHICH BASICLY GIVES THE GOV. THE POWER TO SPY UPON ITS CITIZENS....
    FOR ANY REASON
    ANY TIME,
    ANY PLACE
    NO NEED FOR PROBABLE CAUSE!
    IN ACTUALITY, WE CAN ALL JUST TOSS CONFIDENTIALITY, AND THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW.

    GOING THROUGH OUR MAIL
    TELEPHONE RECORDS,
    BANK ACCTS.
    THE POWER TO FREEZE OUR ASSETS!! ?? #@#!!@!
    DETENTION CAMPS WHITIN OUR OWN COUNTRY!AND BABY THEYRE CERTAINLY NOT FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS OR SUSPECTED TERORIST GROUPS,....
    THEY ARE FOR OUR OWN PEOPLE.
    IF THIS IS THE FIRST YOUVE HEARD OF THAT CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF
    THEYVE GOT A MAJOR DET. CTR
    (CONCENTRATION CAMP?)_
    IN ALASKA.
    AND GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON UNDERNEATH OUR NOSES. DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE THE SIMILARITIES TO ADOLF HITLER AND THE 3RD REICH?
    ETHNIC CLEANSING AND HIS SECRET POLICE....
    WHICH BY THE WAY
    HITLER CALLED
    ARE YOU READY FOR THIS ONE....

    HOMELAND SECURITY.

    SCARY.

    THE REAL TRUTH IS THIS:
    ALL OF THIS IS A BACK DOOR... A WAY FOR THE GOVT. TO UNDERMINE, AND EVENTUALLY STRIP AWAY EVERY SINGLE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT THAT WE HOLD SO DEAR!
    THOSE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS
    ARE SLOWLY BEING PICKED APART AND EVENTUALLY WILL BE TAKEN AWAY,
    PERMANANTLY.
    FREEDOM OF CHOICE,
    SPEECH,
    THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS...........
    ALL OF IT GONE.
    WE MAY AS WELL TAKE AWAY THE WHITE AND BLUE ON OUR FLAG AND JUST BE RED.
    COMMUNISM AND TOTALATARIAN RULE IS THE GOAL BOYS AND GIRLS
    OPPRESION OF THE PEOPLES OF THE WORLD WILL BE A REALITY.
    VERY SOON IT SEEMS............
    IF WE DONT FIGHT!SPEAK UP! SPREAD THE WORD
    KMOWLEDGE IS POWER!!
    AS THE FOLKS HERE AT BELLACIAO HAVE ON THEIR HOMEPAGE

    "TO REBEL IS A RIGHT
    TO DISOBEY IS A DUTY
    TO ACT IS A NECCESSITY!!!!!!!!!!

    AMEN TO THAT.
    BUT THE THING THAT SCARES ME THE MOST, IS THAT
    IN THE END,
    OUR CHILDREN WILL SUFFER. WHAT WILL THEIR LEGACY BE? THEY WILL NEVER KNOW THE FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN FOR GRANTED ALL OUR LIVES!

    DONT YOU REMEMBER?!
    WE
    THE PEOPLE
    FOR
    THE PEOPLE!!!

    WE HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. COMPLACENCY AND THE ASSUMPTION THAT OUR GOVT.
    WHOM WE ELECTED TO OFFICE. AND SET TO ENFORCE AND TO WATCH OUT FOR THE POEPLES WELFARE AND BEST INTERESTS.............IS NO LONGER WHAT OUR FOREFATHERS FOUGHT
    AND DIED AND BLED FOR.....
    THE TWISTED RESULT WE HAVE NOW IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF OUR LACK OF ATTENTION.
    LIKE SMALL CHILDREN
    TOO TRUSTING, AND WE SLOWLY
    OVER THE YEARS
    COMFORTABLE IN THE STATUS QUO AND THE BLANKET OF COMPLACENCY WE SMOTHER OURSELVES WITH
    LET GO OF THE REIGNS THAT CONTROL THE WATCHDOGS WE APPOINTED TO PROTEECT US.
    BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT ISNT TOO LATE,

    YET,

    THERE IS STILL A SMALL CHANCE THAT WE CAN REGAIN OUR RIGHTFULL PLACE AT THE TABLE OF OUR NATION
    TO SIT AT THE HEAD SEAT OF OUR GOVT. TO REMIND OUR
    (AND LETS NOT FORGET THIS ONE)

    PUBLICSERVANTS

    WHO THE BOSS REALLY IS!!!
    THAT IT IS THE
    PEOPLE
    WHO HAVE GIVEN THEM THE HONOR OF REPRESENTING US.
    TIS A SACRED TRUST FOR GODS SAKE!!!!
    WE THE PEOPLE
    WHO DID
    AND SHOULD STILL BE
    WIELDING THE POWER OF YES AND NO TO OUR SERVANTS..........
    NOT
    THE BLOODY OTHER WAY AROUND!!!!
    EVEN NOW,
    WITH ALL THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE GRIM PROSPECT OF IT BEING TOO LITLE AND TOO LATE FOR US TO MAKE A CHANGE...... TO COICE OUR GODGIVEN INHERANT RIGHTS.
    PAID FOR
    WITH THE BLOOD PAIN AND SACRIFICE OF ALL THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE US....
    BUT I STILL BELIEVE!
    I STILL HAVE HOPE!
    ITS NOT TOO LATE......

    DARN CLOSE,
    BUT THERES STILL A CHANCE....
    I USED TO THINK THAT,
    "OHHH, IM JUST ONE PERSON, IM NOT VERY IMPORTANT.....
    NOTHING THAT LITTLE INSINIFICANT ME WOULD DO COULD MAKE ANY KIND OF DIFFERANCE........

    AND IM REMINDED OF HOW A SINGLE FRAGILE BLADE OF GRASS....
    BURIED UNDER CONCRETE...
    SMOTHERED,
    AND IN NO WAY RECIEVING THE NOURISHMENT IT NEEDS TO BECOME LUSH AND COVER THE LAND AS GOD INTENDED IT TO DO.
    IT CAN
    IVE SEEN IT MYSELF,
    CAN BREAK THROUGH A SOLID SLAB OF 3 FT THICK CONCRETE.
    THAT SINGLE WEAK BLADE OF GRASS
    CRACKS
    THE CONCRETE, AND MAKES A NEW PLACE FOR ITSELF.
    EVENTUALLY FLOURISHING AND OVERCOMING IN A PLACE THAT SHOULD NOT BE OVERCOME AT ALL.

    DESPITE THE ODDS
    IN THE END, WITH ENOUGH TIME TO ADAPT...............
    THE WEAKEST OF THINGS
    IS IN ACTUALITY
    THE STRONGEST OF THEM ALL....
    i THINK MOST AMERICANS HAVE FORGOTTEN SOMETHING
    WE ARE NOT HELPLESS TO THE WHIMS OF OUR GOVT!
    THEY ARE NOT OUR BOSS.
    WE THE PEOPLE
    EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US.
    ARE THE WATCHDOGS...
    THE ULTIMATE C.E.O.’S AND HOLDERS OF THE HEREDITARY LEGACY OUR FOREFATHERS AND ALL THOSE WHO SACRIFICED AND DIED FOR THAT IDEAL...........
    THE INHERANT RIGHT OF EVRY MAN TO THE FEEDOMS OF CHOICE, BELIEF, RELIGION, OPINIOIN
    OUR GOVT. ANSWERS TO
    US
    NOT US TO THEM!
    LET US REMEMBER WHO WE ARE
    LET US REMEMBER WHAT IS RIGHT......
    LET US FIND THE STRENGTH AND BELIEF BY BANDING TOGETHER ONE AND ALL
    TO SAVE WHAT LITTLE BEAUTY AND TRUTH
    THERE IS LEFT IN THIS WORLD OF OURS.......

    I PRAY TO GOD THAT THE DARK CLOUDS OF THE STORM’S I SEE
    COMING TOWARDS US,
    WILL END UP AS ONLY A LIGHT SHOWER,
    AND NOT A DELUGE
    LIKE NOAH.
    BECAUSE, I DONT THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME LEFT TO BUILD AN ARK.....
    IN THE END,
    THE RAIN COULD DROWN US ALL,
    OR NOURISH US.
    WE ARE ALL LIKE UNTO THAT SINGLE
    WEAK
    INSIGNIFICANT BLADE OF GRASS........
    I KNOW THAT WE CAN NOT ONLY
    CRACK THE BARRIERS WE ARE SURRROUNDED BY, BUT
    SHATTER IT............
    DUST THAT WILL BE BLOWN AWAY BY THE WINDS OF RIGHTOUSNESS,
    HONOR,
    BELIEF IN OURSELVES AND WHAT WE ALL KNOW IS RIGHT!!!
    WE MUST AT LEAST MAKE THE EFFORT.....
    THERE IS NO SHAME IN TRYING......
    I MEAN, WHAT IS THERE TO LOSE?
    THE TRUE SHAME IS IN DOING NOTHING......
    FOR BY DOING NOTHING,
    WE ARE LIKE THE HANGMAN.....
    AND WE WILL BE THE ONES TO PULL THE LEVER THAT LOOSE’S THE TRAP DOOR
    AND WE WILL ALL OF US.
    ALL OF US,
    DIE.
    WITHOUT A WHIMPER,
    WITHOUT A FIGHT.
    I WOULD RATHER DIE FIGHTING,
    THAN LIVE A LIFE AS A WALKING CORPSE...

    ANYWAYS..... MY COMMENT TURNED INTO A TIRADE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO VENT :)

    STAY UNDER THE RADAR YA’LL,
    AND KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY.
    GOD HELP US ALL...

    RESPECTFULLY YOURS
    T.S.D

    • For the second time in 3 days I visited with a BofA branch manager and asked if she or the bank had received any instructions from Homeland Security on how to handle access to safety deposit boxes in a national emergency." In both cases, the replies were NO. I then showed her a copy of the article and ask for her comment. In the second case, at our branch, the manager called the legal department in my presence and read the article to whomever. The reply was basically that "whomever" had heard nothing about it. I then suggested that this article could damage BofA’s name and that they ought to run it to ground, and the manager seemed to agree with me. Our visit lasted abut 20 minutes. I left her with a letter with a copy of the bellaciao article and a cover letter requesting an investigation of the report and a reply with their findings. May I suggest others take similar action, even just a letter to your BofA branch requesting investigations and a reply.

  • For the second time in 3 days I visited with a BofA branch manager and asked if she or the bank had received any instructions from Homeland Security on how to handle access to safety deposit boxes in a national emergency." In both cases, the replies were NO. I then showed her a copy of the article and ask for her comment. In the second case, at our branch, the manager called the legal department in my presence and read the article to whomever. The reply was basically that "whomever" had heard nothing about it. I then suggested that this article could damage BofA’s name and that they ought to run it to ground, and the manager seemed to agree with me. Our visit lasted abut 20 minutes. I left her with a copy of the bellaciao article and a cover letter requesting an investigation of the report and a reply with their findings. May I suggest others take similar action, even just a letter to your BofA branch requesting investigations and a reply.

  • Certainly that will be done and in addition, I believe that private ownership of gold will be outlawed and the price of gold will be kept at $35.00 an ounce as it had been for years in this country. The interests that control the largest deposits of gold will see to this. In this case Homeland Security will do this for the sake of preventing terrorist groups from having the ability to purchase weapons, etc. I believe that people that are under the influence of "buy gold now" for the sake of a secure future are going to be greatly disappointed in the future when the coming Marshall Plan ( REX 84) is put into place. That is why the Bible tells us that an ounce of gold will be needed to buy a piece of bread during this time of great tribulation. Mark my words the prioce of gold will drop to a mere fraction of what people are paying for it today. The sad thing about all of this is that we should all be screaming like hell at our non-representatives in government . If we all scream at once you wil see those cowardly, greedy , evil people run out of this country like a bunch of scared cockroaches. Shout it from the roof tops and save America. There are too many young people having their arms and legs blown off for the American way of life for everyone else, including our non-representative in government to remain quiet as our great country is taken down by a small percentage of people. If it happens we will all have a right to be ashamed for allowing it to happen. As long as we allow GREED there will be no PEACE. Be brave,be verbal, be heard and be proud of saving the future of AMERICA .

    • Rev 6:6 NIV "A quart of wheat for a day’s wages, and three quarts of barley for a day’s wages,[c] and do not damage the oil and the wine!"
      Rev 6:6 KJV "A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine!"

      Not "an ounce of gold for a bread crumb."

      Why should the gummint set gold prices to $35/oz (1933-1971), when it could use $20/oz (1789-1933)? And if they do, so what? Don’t sell it at that price. Wait for nature (the market) to set things straight.

  • This is just the tip of the iceberg. By having complete access to SDB’s the government is in effect setting itself up to claim OWNERSHIP of any material assets in the event a disaster of mega proportion happens.

    For one moment imagine a major metro area suffering an outbreak of bird flu and 1-5million people die. The government would lay claim to every article of material wealth under this assumption.

    I’m not sure how they get would legally get around "true ownership" surviving heirs, etc, but then again the old adage is "possession is 9/10ths of the law".

    So what could be the true intent? Keeping valuables out of peoples hands in the need of an emergency, thus allowing the government to "require a mark" to get at ones valuables, or maybe to keep the country from "having a run on the banks"?

    I would also think that if the bank employees were told how to address SDB’s they’ve also been instructed on how to inform customer that their ability to "withdraw cash funds" would be cut off in any such effect. There would probably be a government imposed limit of $100-$300 per day.

    Our banking system would implode if everyone in the US just tried to withdraw $5,000. The Federal reserve requirements only allow banks to hold a finite amount of cash at all times, the rest is sent to the Federal Reserve Depositories. Banks would collapse overnight. That doesn’t even address the issue that the Fed Reserve has made it possible for bank to hold leverage debt, namely real estate debt. Today our US banks hold over 60% of their assets in the form of real esate mortgage loans. They have no cash, just debt instruments.

    Thus, the picture is much bigger.

    This might be a good time to check with brokerage companies on the issue of "funds available" in any such event too.

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    • Hi everyone from Russia. I’m a native russian living in Moscow and really worried what is happening in US just because I hate governments and presidents doing these thing to their people!!!!

      Just one interesting fact, which doesn’t mean anything by itself - but I can’t help the feeling that everything what’s happening has happened before. Don’t be surprised too much... We had exactly the same in 1998 in Russia and similarity of cercamstances is realy amazing.
      1) In march 1998 few business magazines has published the info that the pyramid of russian state debth is about to collapse.
      2) In June 1998 the old prime minister (who actually built that pyramid) was retired and the younger one has arrived.
      3) In august 1998 it happened and Ruble lost 3/4 of it’s value within a week.
      You have two first components in place already. Guess who is that "old prime minister" in your case :) Alan.... G..You name it.

      Reading your conversation, I must say I’m so glad that there are people like you in US. People who think "out of the box"! I’m sure that America will be fine as long as such thinking people as you guys are around. Don’t worry too much.... You’ll find the way through! I’m with you with all my heart and soul and thanks for useful information

      Yuri

    • Thank you Yuri. Your response was encouraging and enlightening and you have an excellent grasp of English and the dilema unfolding here in the United States. I suspect that our "empire" will collapse the same as the Russian empire due to unsustainable debt. Same could be said for other empires such as the British, Spanish, German, Roman, so we do not have to do much research to see what the future holds. However, both our countries and people will survive even as our governments fail us. "The times they are a changing", as a popular American song suggests, but the average American has not a clue to their fate. I suspect that 10 years from now the pigeons we have raised will have come home to roost and bring with them a period of chaos. Things that Americans are not used to and will have trouble dealing with. We are a coddled bunch of ignorant and under educated oafs for the most part who trust the government to solve all our problems (Sound familiar?). Unfortunately, we are not prepared to fend for ourselves. The citizens of Russia may fare better than the citizens of the US because you have more resources. Meanwhile, the US imports 70% of it’s energy needs. Our biggest exports are jobs and $ and debt (bonds). This cannot end well so a few of us try to protect our families by buying a few silver and gold coins in case of a monetary collapse. It would not surprise me if the Government outlawed the possesion of such "evil" metals even though our Constitution still reads that only Gold and Silver shall serve as money. How are things in Russia these days? Do you have some words of wisdom for myself and my family? Our countries my be more similar than we know. Sincerely, Ethan Rath

  • Hi everyone from Russia. I’m a native russian living in Moscow and really worried what is happening in US just because I hate governments and presidents doing these thing to their people!!!!

    Just one interesting fact, which doesn’t mean anything by itself - but I can’t help the feeling that everything what’s happening has happened before. Don’t be surprised too much... We had exactly the same in 1998 in Russia and similarity of cercamstances is realy amazing.
    1) In march 1998 few business magazines has published the info that the pyramid of russian state debth is about to collapse.
    2) In June 1998 the old prime minister (who actually built that pyramid) was retired and the younger one has arrived.
    3) In august 1998 it happened and Ruble lost 3/4 of it’s value within a week.
    You have two first components in place already. Guess who is that "old prime minister" in your case :) Alan.... G..You name it.

    Reading your conversation, I must say I’m so glad that there are people like you in US. People who think "out of the box"! I’m sure that America will be fine as long as such thinking people as you guys are around. Don’t worry too much.... You’ll find the way through! I’m with you with all my heart and soul and thanks for useful information

    Yuri

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  • Enough chatter re: questions for bankersPlease!); religious/political/moroninic response; lock ’n load and what’s new/ told ya so posts......Excellent post re: "service" , as definined by gov-co agencies vs bull/cow affairs......People need to respond to a viable/alternative course of action re: their assets and ASSteroids!...For example: Plot a Best Course of Action for a "Who" (me,my daughter,&g-daughter),a "What" (200k US$ in hand), and a "Where", and "How"..........Focus on Where and How!........Go Ahead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • There is no such policy in my bank and I would know.
    Bank Security Officer, Massachusetts

  • Is this true? If it is then America and it’s alligning nations seem to be pulling themselves in line with each other. The actions seem to be that of a nation or "league of nations" that are preparing for a War on an unprecedented scale. Just as a snake curls in on itself before striking, America and other nations appear to be doing the same.

    • My parents sold their house recently. They tried to take it out ’cash’. Surprise to them but they could not take the cash. They had to take it out bit by bit in 5k checks and a crapload of $20 bills. Remember one thing, the Constitution was created to keep the government in CHECK, not to keep the people in check. And to add to this anymosity, the 16th ammendment (the one where the gvt has the right to tax us) was NEVER ratified, it was historically checked, at the time, only 2 checks had it ratified but they lied anyway. They had to, to get the fradulent federal reserve system in place, which is the reason we are so screwed right now. Back in the days, only SLAVES were taxed income and they had a 50% tax, serfs paid a 25% income tax. Now consider how much YOU pay in taxes and SS, add in daily consumption tax, and add in dollar devaluation tax (ie. inflation of 7% which the gvt says is ’4%’) and see how much you really pay in taxes. If you ask me we get taxed like slaves, but everyone thinks its just fine. Likewise, do you really own that property? You have to pay taxes on it yearly...it is NEVER yours, since if you miss paying taxes, they take the house. Americans no longer have backs, as hard as it is to say that, we will be opressed first, and we will suffer, before we can no longer take it and actually retaliate...our kids will probably carry that brunt...

    • Homeland Security To Confiscate Bank Safe Deposit Box Contents

      Please see the national debt clock:
      http://www.toptips.com/debtclock.html

      just look at the Millions borrowed in one single Min, The new Or lean is anther disaster which this great nations leader ignoring its needs, there r people until now not counted for. 37 millions American living below the poverty line, and we want to take prosperity to Afghanistan and Iraq, is that the prosperity of destruction like New Or lean or Iraq?
      In short America is in economical suicidal mission read this article please:
      http://news.goldseek.com/JamesTurk/1142438460.php

      The only thing left to junta is to create more wars, create new enemies, so the people will be frighten and busy, while the cabal add more taxes. Do u know that all the deficit are in reality NEW TAXES?. THEY HAVE AFREE HANDS TO DO THAT,AND NO ONE COMING FWD AND OBJECTING WHY?. IF THE GORENMENT ADD THE TAX WE ALL SHOUT, ISNT THAT THE SAME THING, GOD BLESS AMERICA.with their new synthetic enemy as we all remember the big lies of 9 11. please watch 9 11 on trails and proven guilty:
      http://www.wingtv.net/911ontrial.doc/911ontrialindex.html

      The question the scholars asking the American Junta is : 9 11 is an inside job ( inside a demolition ) we can prove that scientifically, mathematically and physically, can the government prove it is not? Please see and vote for the scholars to keep Americ safe:
      http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/929981172

      Yr vote very important to keep America safe.

      Early governments assumed the monetary power because they needed it to serve the people

       anonymous

      "Give me control of a nation’s currency and I care not who makes the laws "
       Baron Rothschild

      Although Article 1, Section 8, of the Constitution, makes Congress responsible for coining money, it is the Fed that has total monetary control. However, the Fed is not a Federal agency and has no reserves, it is a privately-owned banking system, as proven in court:
      A Mr. Lewis was injured by a Federal Reserve vehicle and sued the U.S. government for damages. The court ruled, "...that since the Federal Reserve System and its twelve branch banks are private corporations, the federal government could not be held responsible."- Lewis v. U.S., 608F 2d 1239 full :
      . http://iresist.com/cbg/fraud.html
      MY QUESTION WHAT R U GOING TO DO ABOUT YR RIGHT, I RECOMMEND YOU SLEEP AMERICA.

      God bless America and bless the world.

    • John Snow got the congress to increase the National Debt ceiling to a little under 9 trillion, which makes every man, woman and child in the country having a pro-rated share of the debt, totaling thirty-thousand dollars for every person. It suprised no one that the debt was increased, they always do. How we are going to pay this debt is never addressed, never argued. Some democrats protested, but since they are in the minority in both Houses, as well as in the White House, well its impossible for them to do much with the Republicans holding the Senate, the House, the Executive and also the Supreme Court, 5 to 4.

    • Thank you for posting a little sanity check. It would be nice if someone could actually verify the truth/untruth of this claim.

  • Be you left, right or somewhere in between, the past 5 years has taken away our trust in government. We have been lied to consistantly. Questions of what is truth and what is BS continue. The old addage, "tell people something long enough, consistanly enough & they will believe." Be it a lie or a stretch of the truth, it is easier to mislead the masses than a single individual.

    The Gods honest truth of the matter is that our currency is becoming worth less everyday. If Americans allow the lack of fiscal responsibility to continue borrowing a billion dollars and more each and every day, America will default sooner rather than later. You cannot run your house on a charge card day after day, year after year and never pay the bills. Borrowing eventually catch’s up to you.
    The Federal government has raised the debt ceiling 4 out of the last 5 years, as not to default on it’s obligations. "It’s bills." We have been at war 3 years, waging it on borrowed money. America owes $9 trillion to creditors. The US monetary system is at its greatest risk of collaps, in its 250 year history. The greenback today is worth a promise at best and only the paper its printed on, at worst.
    Should a collaps ocure, the only real currency will be gold, silver, patinum and paladium. The rainy day insurance folks lock away in safe deposit boxes. The government would declare marshall law & control the people, including the open use of precious metal commodities. The Bushes and Cheney’s have their gold and silver and enough resources to remain secure and safe. Most Americans will be on their own. For those of us who remember, we need only look back at Hitlers Germany, to see history repeating itself. German marks became worthless too. The world despised Hitler & the SS. People needed to produce identity papers on demand or be arrested. Bush & Cheney have Micheal Chertoff and HS (Homeland Security). At the present, few know if the new HS policy regarding safe deposit boxes is true. It may involve federal reserve depository banks only. Let us not forget that it was a criminal offense to tell anyone you received a National Security letter! Part of the Patroit Act. Americans must wake up and smell the coffee. There is much more going on in your Federal government than you are being told or allowed to question.
    Never have Americans been so lied to and lived with so many unanswered questions. As a matter of fact, no longer is it really your government. It has become a government of the rich and powerful, dictating unreasonable rules and questionable policy. Americans need to regain control of their nation and correct rediculous and questionable policies of the past 5 years. As time passes, we see more & more frequently that we are mislead.

    I questioned my sister-in-law who escorts customers to their safe deposit boxes. As of now , she is unaware of such a policy. She is employed at a small bank, not a federal reserve depository bank. Considering the many hidden laws passed since 9-11, it would not surprise me if this safe deposit policy true. Only time will tell.

    • If u want to save America and bring the Democracy to it as the forefathers wanted, than neither Democrat, nor the Republican will bring America constitutionally back as it was when America got its independence?
      you have to create a new page, with new party, you can call it what ever you like:
      THE FOUNDING FATHER PARTY
      THE CONSTITUTIONS PARTY
      HENNERY FORD PARTY
      BENJIMAN FRANKLIN PARTY
      PATRIOTICE PARTY.
      But if continue to be stuck with both these parties than I am afraid you have a color bind, cos u only see THE RED AND BLUE COLOUR, which they chosen for you. do you want to remain in being color blind, than please continue, with u will continue to fuel the future war with HUMAN FUEL (the army and marine) and with yr $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
      you will continue the corruptions as u found the greatest ever in the world history (Enron), and under the noise of the most Democratic nations or so called. so America to decide if American ready to liberate their country, it is a big joke America talk of liberating Iraq, and Afghanistan. at least Iraq is physically occupied by foreign forces, but its people are free, America is occupied by all means, in its policy, its economy its decisions and its people brain, a total occupations by Bankers, my dear we have long way to go , God bring liberty to America, and u have the choice if you want still to cheat yr self with the Blue colors or Red colors, and stay color blind or you want to bring yr constitution right with entirely new patriotic people, you decide?

  • What to do with the whole corrupt mess?

    Vote for anyone except a Democra-Publican.

    Work and contribute! Do it now!

    Libertarian, Green, Constitution Party - do it - check it out. There is not time to fool around with the two party system.

    If you want, I do need the help:

    www.grant4congress.com

    yours in Liberty
    Grant

    • Excellent and good luck to you! I have been reading these postings for the past hour or so. Most of it i believe is true, although some colored a little bit panciky. It is our responsibility to educate ourselves! This has all happened before; why would we think it impossible to happen again? There are many new good books out there. Noam Chomsky’s book "Imperial Ambitions: Conversations on a post 9/11 world"; Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States.. Wouldn’t it be great if in protest millions and millions of americans refused to pay their income taxes on April 15th !? Above all else, however, don’t lose hope - we MUST all be the change we want to see in the US...and the World.

  • I suppose by "criminals in charge" you mean our Commander in Chief? Too bad Al Gore isn’t our President. Maybe mental competence might be required if he were.
    Iam certain something is left out here. No suspicion,no warrent, no terrorist connections, no drug connections. Just grab those gold bars, the suitcase dirty bombs, the chemical weapons and keep them to use agains our citizens by looking in every safety deposit box in the entire country
    because the bank employees don’t know whats in them. Rediculous!

  • its true, i had an account at major bank in a usa state , and they outlined the dhs policy, fortunately this was a good bank and they told you, indirectly, dont keep gold, silver, coins, cash or we cant guarantee anything with DHS. i shut the thing down, went out and got a gps reciever and a car without gps in it, left my cell phone with a gps chip in it home, and buried it and memorized the cordinates in several different places. house to house searches for gold and guns is coming. as spy satelites are so good, go at night and in the woods. then i tossed the gps receiver away as many store in flash where the gps rx has been. if i disappear or die, very close associates will be notified through an fiduciary that i have disappeared and given the information. suggest you all to likewise. bush has the death camps ready. as Christians we have to pray that like Haman who rigged the gallows for Mordechai the people that prepare death camps for others will be caught in his own trap. this is a supernatural battle between G-d and his people and the Devil and his people.

    • can someone explain the GPS issue?

    • Speaking of safe deposit boxes, I discovered that bank employees (if crooked) can actually gain access to Your box. A bank teller calmly told Me exactly how it could easily be done in the early ’90s when I discovered My safe deposit box had been tapped into. She worked at a different bank of course. Apparently on occasion a bank employee or two will work after hours. The unissued safe deposit box keys are kept on the inside of a cabinet door or similar spot all nice and neatly hung on nails or small hooks. These keys are not issued, therefore don’t have to be under tight security. However, if a shady employee takes some of those keys and makes wax impressions from them, once these keys are issued those employees have access to those rented boxes. Even if they’re not numbered, it wouldn’t take too awful long to use their master key and the duplicated keys to try them in enough boxes to make a hit. Access would probably have to be during banking hours or the employee would have to be a high ranking one. Darn, another reason to abandon Your safe deposit box.

    • VERY SIMPLE.. ALL CARS MADE AFTER 2000 HAVE A POSITIONING CHIP INSTALLED IN IT. ALSO A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SOME MEANS OF FINDING ADDRESSES SUCH AS MAGELLAN OR ONSTAR AND OTHER NAMED DEVICES INSTALLED IN THEIR AUTOS FOR NOT GETTING LOST.. WELL THE GOVERNMENT TRACES THESE AND CAN LOCATE YOU VIA SATELLITE SIGNALS. THE SAME WITH YOUR CELL PHONES AND PAGERS. THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO BE SPIED UPON WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE. THE ARMY HAS A SITE IN ARIZONA THAT MONITORS ALMOST ALL CELLPHONES IN THE WESTERN WORLD.. HOPE THIS EXPLAINS IT TO YOU A LITTLE BETTER..
      RM

  • I know many of you may think this is a bunch of BS, but for those of you who are curious, you might want to take a moment to listen to what I am telling you.

    The global events that are taking place right now must take place for prophecy to be fulfilled and we can prove it. The bright side of all this is that we only have to put up with it for couple more years! For details see:

    http://www.lordswitnesses.us/Apostles%20seventh_lesson%20Armageddon.htm

  • Wow! I just tried your suggestion and got the expected reply. I expressed concern to my bank that if I opened a safe-deposit box, that because of the new HSA rules, that they might not let me take out what I put in. The bank clerk thought about it for a second and then, in a very low voice, told me that would only happen in case of a national emergency.

    It’s no wonder that the wealthy are moving out of the US at by far the highest rate in history. According to US Census Bureau estimates, published in the "2000 Statistical Yearbook of the Immigration and Naturalization Service", they expected that roughly 370,000 US citizens and permanent residents would leave the US in 2003 and that estimate was made prior to the 9-11 terrorists attacks. How many of those people do you think were poor? (Hint: The poor come here looking for opportunity or with their hands out. The Rich are the ones with the most to lose.)

    Also, comparison of the Merrill Lynch/Cap Gemini Ernst & Young annual "World Wealth Reports", over recent years has shown a significant drop in the number of millionaires in the US. These aren’t people who just lost money. The millionaires that they are talking about are those who dropped off the US financial radar screen. The only way that a US millionaire can drop off the financial radar is to move himself and his assets offshore.

    When word of this new HSA safe deposit rule gets out, we can expect more wealth to move offshore. Some would say, "Let’m leave." But, just remember that the top 1% of income earners paid more than a third of the total personal income tax collected by the IRS in 2003 and the top 5% paid well over half (http://www.actionamerica.org/taxecon/irsdata.shtml). If the rich start leaving in large numbers, the rest of us will have to make up the difference. But, that would take a lot leaving, you might think. Oh, contraire. In 2003, the top 1% amounted to only 1.3 million taxpayers. At an expatriation rate of 370,000 a year, we could easily lose a significant portion of that top 1% in only a few short years and that assumes an expatriation rate that is stable at pre-Patriot Act levels. Other indicators suggest that expatriation of the wealthy has increased since that time.

    If we loose a third of our tax base, the rest of us will have to make up the difference, to the tune of a 50% tax increase, just to stay even. What if we lose most of the top 5%? That could force a doubling of the current tax rate, just to keep revenue flat.

    I’m not yet ready to pack my bags. But with this development, I sure think that it would be a good idea to put some of my money in some offshore investments, just in case. If things should continue the way the are and the government starts freezing assets or worse, it will give us some recovery capital, in a safe jurisdiction.

  • Three things to consider with respect to Safe Deposit Boxes: One; they are not "Safe"; two, a SS number is required to get a box; three, the box is a service provided by, in most all cases, a federally chartered institution. If one is looking for safety and privacy, this is not a good place to be.

  • Those pieces of paper in your box may also not be released.

    Keep insurance and other legal papers out of the bank safe deposit box - in an emergency everything may be frozen or disappear.

  • My Father passed away in Massachusetts (he was a NH resident) in 1993. He told me shortly before he died that he had a safety deposit box and for me to remember to get it. I was living in California at the time and flew back a few times to deal with attorneys and real estate brokers to sell his assets as I was the sole beneficiary of his estate. I never was able to locate his safety deposit box despite several calls and letters to his banks. Now that the banks are defunct, I do not think that I will ever get a chance to find it. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.

    Thanks

    smcgrath4@cox.net

    • Asking for help here is like expecting to find a glazed doughnut in a sewer. The most likely responses will involve some sort of conspiracy between Mel Gibson and Elvis, all carried out with UN funding.

      If your father did have a safe deposit box with a MA bank, by this time the contents have escheated to the state. Here’s the web site to go check for abandoned property: http://abpweb.tre.state.ma.us/abp/frmNewSrch.aspx

      There is no Homeland Security plan to take over safe deposit boxes. However, I have inside information that says they are going to steal everyone’s garbage cans on June 6!

    • HELLO Mr common sense. We are in the land of ODDS. You are not alone!!!

    • This thread is both truthful and misleading as anyone can post to this site.

      My experience with DHS is through acts as a Bounty Hunter operating outside the
      USA but as American. The DHS directly advised me to NOT keep anything of
      value, of personal or other importance within the USA banking system, specifically
      SDB’s. They were subject to non disclosed rummaging and confiscation. This was
      done so while in discussions within the USA Embassy, Manila, Philippines.
      Federally regulated banks are responsible to DHS directly, not the deposit holders
      and are legally responsible to the DHS not the deposit holders and are exempt from
      civil action when operating in concert with the DHS. I was advised to take receipt
      of bounty payments in hand at the respective USG Embassies.

  • In the event of a national declared financial emergency, anything can happen. Banks are chartered by the Government and completely subject to the laws of the government, including executive orders of the President. This country went through in in 1933, and to this day the Department of the Treasurey reserves to right to confesscate virtually anything it determines as required in a state of national emergency, including real estate, cars and food. Of course, dream on Washington D.C. if you think you can do this in a nation that is armed to the sky.

    Anything of value such as bullion coins, or gems, I would never store at a Bank. I think the reason now B of A will not allow it is because they know full well that it is not safe there so they have decided to advise their customers differently than many banks.

    With that said, if we went through 1980 with 20% interest rates, loans being called in, Gold at $850 an ounce, and Silver up in the $40 and $50’s, without a major confescation, I think we are going to be o.k. If they did try and grab it, the outrage and distrust of the public would be substantial, a whole new generation of Americans would distrust banks again, like the great depression generation who would keep their money burried at the house, in books, stored in closets, or under the floor boards.

  • Dear sir, madam,
    i am asking you if you can help me pay my school fee. before july 13. if it is posible please to write me, my name is: Adrian Ellis

    my address is:
    Nineteen Mile
    Green Bottom
    Palmer’s Cross P.A
    Clarendon
    Jamaica W.I

    thank you.

  • My girlfriend’s safe deposit box is gone. The bank stated that they moved to a different format regarding their physical deposit box vaults. When she went to access her box, it was empty. The bank said they had to drill the lock when they moved the box, as they could not contact her. Regardless, she was paid up through next year for the box. She had over 40K in jewelry and other items, including her passport. The bank insists it was empty. Farmers & Merchants Bank will not cooperate, and state that there is nothing they can do, or are they even willing to do. I was born here (white), but my girlfriend is from Tehran. Could this be related to the above article? Is there anything we can do?

    Ken Berg

    • Friends of mine (all white US citizens) have had jewelry, gold Krugerands, and other items taken from their bank safe deposit boxes. The banks refuse to acknowledge that there was anything taken. I have yet to investigate mine, as I moved and it is in another state.

    • Today I went to my bank. I recieve a notice that my bank saftey deposit box was over due and would be drilled open by 12/6/06. The box was paid up through 10/31/06, and by 11/6/06 they issued a notice claiming that it was over due by 6 months and would be drilled open. When I went to the bank, I also found out that my account had been closed due to under perfomrance. It did not have a lot of money in it, but they zeroed out the account ( about $40 lost).

      After reading the post here back in Feb. 06, I removed everything from that box and waited to see what would happen next. Mind you, that was 90 lbs of metal. For a long time nothing happen, and then they close the account prior to the box being due, and then notified me it was over due 6 months. They would be on that box in 30 days from the notice on 11/6/06.

      Nothing is in it. I will turn in the keys on Monday. I would not have believed it unless it really happened to me and it almost did.

      And just like others, once they open that box, if they inventory it and say nothing is in it, then there is nothing in it no matter what you may say or try and prove. It comes down to the honesty of people who make $7 dollars and hr. Think about that!!!!

      And by the way, the bank employee can not explain why a box paid up through 10/31/06 would be declared 6 months over due on 11/6/06. Nor could she explain what happen to the money in my account. In fact, they are worthless in my mind.

  • IT’S A VERY GOOD IDEAL TO ALLOW BANK ACCOUNT HOLDERS ACCESS THIER ACOOUNT ONLINE EVEN AS TO DO MONEY WITHDRAWAL WITHOUT PAYING A PERCENTAGE ON THAT TRANSACTION. ATLEAST

  • Ummmm....WHY do you think that the Banks not allowing weapons, gold, silver and cash ’out’ during a "NATIONAL EMERGENCY"?

    First of all, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU HIDING??

    If there WAS a NATIONAL EMERGENCY (How often do these happen?) then EVERYONE would be in the same predicament. For example, the BANKS WOULD BE CLOSED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!
    Then, WHEN THEY DO OPEN UP, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PAPERWORK. Use your ATM for withdraws etc.

    You are a FREAK and suffer from extreme Paranoia.

    Get a Life.

    Bud from Tucson

  • first of all we live in a free country,, as long as
    we pay high taxes, so to get around this do not get a safe deposit box. next get the liberals and the money givers that pay our so called congress members to vote against us. you know lobbyist. out of washington. then we can hang anybody who threatens our freedom. no stories, or how they had a tough child hood. sorry but every body deservers to go outside and enjoy some kind of freedom. thanks for letting me blow off some steam.
    ted in ma.

  • This is left-wing BS scare tactics. Any serious investigation will debunk it completely.

    • Yes. Of course, the sheep that live in this country will take any anti-government lie that has "Homeland Security is evil" in it.

    • I’m a licensed and bonded locksmith... w/ 25+ years experience.

      FIRST, Every person who has access to SDB keys has the ability to copy them. 99% of these keys are nothing more than a flat piece of metal that can be duplicated by a teenage boy in the garage with nothing more than a $50 handheld rotory power tool. This means that it is possible not only for bank employees to illegally access your SDB; but also other SDB holders. HOW? Simply by renting mutiple boxes at the same bank, copying keys, then giving up all the boxes except 1 and waiting for them to be re-rented. Then going back in to get into your box; but get confused and stick your ILLEGAL KEY into someone elses box... the stupid bank employees never even look to make sure they are opening the right box; as they blindly insert there guard key and turn both to open the box for you. FOR THIS REASON, the SDB contracts are written to protect banks from any and all liability from theft of materials stored in the box. You are really taking your chances when you store anything in a SDB.

      SECOND, Several times over the past year I have attempted to pull out $5K to $8K cash from three different banks that I have accounts with. In each case, the teller told me that they don’t have that kind of cash on hand. I THEN DEMAND TO TALK TO THE BANK MANAGER. I inform the manager that I’m going to a national industrial trade show (true statement) and need the cash to buy used tools and machines from peers. Checks and Credit Cards don’t do you any good at these shows where CASH-N-CARRY is the motto of the day! Everytime, the manager told the teller to give me the cash... and magically the teller had enough cash on hand for my withdrawl.

      THIRD, As a business owner I have a merchant accout with MASTERCARD/VISA. Each month the banking fees total 4% to 5% of my net credit card sales. My guess is that the banks have plenty of cash on hand, but don’t want much of it in circulation because they want to earn fees on as many consumer transactions as possible. Let’s face it, if you spend $1000 each month on your debit card; the banking system can earn $10 to $50 in fee income off the merchants you do business with. [Of course, you are really paying these fees in the form of higher prices]. If the bank lets you (or makes it easy for you) to take your money out in the form of CASH and spend it, they lose that fee income.

      FOURTH, I asked a manager at FIFTH/THIRD BANK in Ohio, if my accts were FDIC insured. Before he gave me a direct answer, he told me that the gov’t pushed the FDIC thing way too much. He then said that If FIFTH/THIRD BANK (a small regional bank) were to go under, it would bankrupt the FDIC. He then said that the Gov’t might step in and bailout the FDIC but if they did it could take 7 or more years for me to get back the $23K that I had in a savings acct with them at the time.

      FIFTH, The subprime mess is infecting almost all the banks, money market funds, pension funds, and major bank failures at anytime in the next 6 months are very likely. I have never in the past been afraid to keep money in an FDIC insured account. Today, I am very afraid!!! I opened up an account in Ireland and wired the bulk of my savings offshore. They were able to give me a debit card attached to my savings acct, so I can still access my money anywhere in the world at anytime (of course they do charge fees for this).

      ************************
      * WAKE-UP CALL *
      ************************

      The last thing I have to say is really a message for any BANKER, or GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL who reads this post. As I LOCKSMITH, I secure businesses and homes for people. All I have is my integerity--- for people must trust me not to make duplicate copies of their keys and then come back and rip them off!!! If I or any locksmith were to betray the public’s trust on this issue, we would be out of buisness OVERNIGHT!

      The U.S. GOVERNMENT has failed to prevent the WALL-STREET scam artists (bankers, brokers, ratings-agencies) from destroying the integerity of the American Financial System. As a result the world is about to put the UNITED STATES out of business OVERNIGHT. (Its just that overnight in this case is going to take a several months to a few years — due to the complexity involved in untangeling national economies) CHINA and many other countries have already started to dump the U.S. dollar and USD assets as the first step in this process.

      ITS TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE! The U.S. Government must clean up the markets and restore integerity to the financial system or the end game is going to be WWIII.

    • HOW ABOUT NAKED SHORTING STOCKS? WHEN IS THIS SHORTER GOING TO COVER HIS NAKED SHORT ? THE REAL TERRORIST!!!!!!!!

  • The last person who would "need to know" about this brand new bank teller! In fact no one would need to know about this at any local bank until the emergency is actually declared.

    On the link to you other article you express concern over the national debt reaching the debt limit and say this will cause a US default. I’m sure by now you realize this is commonplace and the debt limit is just raised. To think the government might collapse because the debt reaches the debt limit is laughable.

    While the US is indeed collapsing, our civilization dying, this post is ridiculous.

  • First of all - Its not a BofA policy- It applies to every bank. Lastly not a new rule. I work at a competitor bank and have worked for a few institutions.

    You are not allowed to under any circumstances to keep weapons or cash in your safe deposit box. If you are caught even the allusion of doing so, is the mandatory report of someone to the authorities for fear of potential money laundering. Under a potential national catastrophe or terrorist act, it is natural the authorities would want to keep a tab on potential money laundering or weapons storage at banks.

    End of story, plain and simple. Not a big deal, the rules have been on the books for decades in banking.

  • This is only one of many of the abuses that the United States Goverment (the corparation) is doing to your rights. The people that are the source of Goverment are all asleep. The peoples will is not being considered.

    • Not only the government is asleep so are the people that vote them in. Look who we have for a President now. The House & Congress, heaven forbid. Speaking of heaven they need to keep IN GOD WE TRUST on everything, screw the Atheists and whom ever don’t believe in GOD.

  • People don’t seem to realize that Bush started this in order
    to slowly move this country into Communism, without using the word.

    Put fear in citizens, convince them that in order to protect them
    you have to spy on them, take away their rights and privacy,
    then pay mercenaries to do certain things to keep citizens
    in fear that the big bad wolf is coming if they complain about
    losing their rights.

  • i to have heard about this. it was in year 2000 . i can’t say i heard it from the camels mouth but i did try to get more on the topis from the bank and got the run around . so i pesitited that i know and they got rude and strait to the point

  • I have attempted to find out from bank employees as well as other sources what bank policy is concerning safe deposit boxes. In my questioning I used bank failure and resulting closing of the doors as my reason for concern. In most cases, employees are extremely ignorant that failure of their bank is even possible. When pushed however, they seem to be completely unaware of what their banks policy is under those circumstances. I`ve checked with 4 different banks regarding this exact question. I believe that most of these employees are truly ignorant of policy and not trying to hide something they are aware of. Most I spoke with are officers of the bank and not tellers. One told me that he believed that even if the doors were closed, box holders would be allowed to access their box for 72 hrs or so after the doors closed. Regardless of the policy the truth remains that the international monetary system is done. With multi-trillions of dollars in toxic derivatives in the system, no amount of bailouts in the world will save it. Soon most governments will follow Greece with sovereign defaults. The ECU and the Obama administration will attempt to force Fascist and Extreme Draconian austerity measures on their respective populations. This attempt to stabilise the dead system will result in ever increasing civil unrest worldwide. Only an immediate return to Glass/Steagall banking regulations and putting the Federal Reserve through bankruptcy proceedings will begin the process of recovery. The entire world monetary system is in the same boat. All nations will need to enact some form of regulations to separate the toxic waste from the legitimate banking assets. The people need to be protected from the vultures in the Financial cartels and their lackeys on Wall street. Time is running out.

  • I attend government auctions and have noticed a lot more banks assets being liquidated it scares me alot. here’s auction company site.

    http://www.ricklevin.com/Auctions/Upcoming-Auctions.aspx

    thank for the info boxs

  • Only a fool would keep anything of value in a bank. If people lose their belongings it’s what they deserve for being sheep.

    We are in this position with an out of control government due to the lack of participation from the citizens of the collective States.

    Our servant has become our master and the only way to take back control of our government is to take action as so clearly stated in the Declaration of Independence...the right to alter or abolish!

    Speaking to the world concerning what steps to take is not anti government or subversive, it’s what our founding fathers called true patriotism. If it takes steps of force to gain back control of our rouge servants, than so be it. We are the bosses not them and it’s our duty to keep them in line not them keeping us in line.

    You must free your mind before you can free your body. It’s the mind they have captured and the evidence is in the way people refuse to speak the truth out of fear!

    When Patrick Henry declared "give me liberty or give me death", he was dedicated to living as a free man or dieing while attempting it. Many gave their lives for what we so carelessly take for granted. Freedom in not free and it never has been...just study history and get your heads out of the sand!

  • common sense,do not put anything under anyone elses control.its ever man for himself.always has been.

  • is any of this really relevant? We as a people have appointed a government over our lives. The government oversees the infrastructure of roads, hospitals, and currencies, as well as many, many other aspects of life. Are we so lost by this control, or would it be better to stand united? While there are victims who fall through the cracks, is it not dangerous to question our government-not for direct consequences-but for the indirect, such as other countries seeing usa as having a lack of solidarity. This squabbling and distrust amongst ourselves and of our leaders does more damage to our great nation than all the scams, schemes, and conspiracies combined. Oh i yearn for the day when we can be a happy and industrious people again.

  • I questioned my bank’s branch manager. she told me she had not heard anything about Homeland Security confiscating bank accounts or breaking into safety deposit boxes..."IS SHE LYING?"

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    Epoyjun

  • This is completely false. Check Snopes.

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