How Bush’s policies doomed New Orleans

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• 31 August 2005, 20:54

  Just let the Free Market help New Orleans.

• 31 August 2005, 21:36

  Wow, what took so long? I’ve been visualizing Bellaciao-ites frantically scurrying to try to figure out how Dubya is responsible for an act of God. I’m just surprised you didn’t mention global warming since he clearly hasn’t moved quickly enough to outlaw bad weather.

  • 31 August 2005, 23:32

    Try to keep the drama down and say something intelligent if possible. It’s your man who failed to get Iraq under control and get the oil flowing, and I strongly suspect his messing around in Iraq is intentional in order to get the price of oil up to at least twice what it currently is so he and his oil buddies can make a pile of money. Now this hurricane thing is going to affect all of us.

  • 1 September 2005, 01:31

    Wow, what took so long? I’ve been visualizing Bellaciao-ites frantically scurrying to try to figure out how Dubya is responsible for an act of God.

    Whenever Dubya fails to prepare for X, and X happens, we’re told to blame X.

    Dubya failed to prepare for terrorism. He diverted money from antiterrorism measures to the Strategic Defense Initiative. But can we blame him for that? Noooooo, we should put the blame on the terrorists.

    Dubya failed to prepare for a hurricane that everyone knew would eventually come. He diverted money away from levee construction and to Iraq, gutted FEMA and made it an antiterror agency, and now New Orleans is destroyed. But can we blame him for that? Noooooo, we should put the blame on the hurricane.

    As far as your "what took so long" remark, the religious right has already claimed that the hurricane is both God’s punishment for a gay festival in New Orleans and God’s punishment for abortion clinics in LA. So I hope you don’t mind if I tell you to STFU.

  • 1 September 2005, 14:27

    So you accuse Dubya of starting a war to steal oil, then you complain that he hasn’t stolen it yet ("get the oil flowing" is the phrase you used). Is he a diabolical genius or a fool?

    The problem isn’t a shortage of crude, anyway, it’s that 40% of the refineries are now offline, and they were barely keeping up with demand before the storm. (Also, pipelines, such as the one that ships jet fuel to ATL in Atlanta, are offline.) At any rate, I don’t remember a lot of articles on this site calling for the construction of more refineries and distribution infrastructure.

    Accusing Dubya of killing people to enrich his friends is tiresome, though I hear it all the time. It’s just plain silly. There are much easier ways to enrich yourself and your friends if you are president. Besides, whether you supported the invasion of Iraq or not, it’s worth noting that Dubya risked his reelection on the issue.

    One of the fundamental mistakes your camp makes is that you casually assume the worst of motives on the part of those who favored the invasion of Iraq, from Dubya down to people who voted for him. As long as you continue to do this, there can be no reasonable dialogue because you sound like a bunch of kooks. Is it not enough to simply believe he made a horrible mistake and is an incompetent boob?

    Personally, I think you are all wrong, but I don’t question your motives. (I’m talking here about reasonable Westerners who don’t see the need to get rid of Saddam, not the jihad-cheerleaders that abound on this website.)

    Have a nice day,

    MTT

  • 1 September 2005, 14:30

    For those of us who don’t live online, please define "STFU." Is that part of the University of California system, or are you wallowing in some playground name-calling?

    The religious right doesn’t speak for me. They’re as nutty as you.

    "we’re told to blame X . . ." ??

    Who gives you your marching orders?

  • 1 September 2005, 20:16

    I think it means " shut the F**k up"

  • 1 September 2005, 21:04

    Very enlightening. Thanks for the tip.

  • 2 September 2005, 10:21

    With the amount of destruction and death 100,000 plus in Iraq since Bush started his war, the amount of money being squandered on his war, the amount of ill will his war has brought the citizens of the U.S., the amount of money it will take to make things better, we as a country will be much worse off than if Bush had just bought the Iraq oil at the price it was back then 3 years ago and there would have been no war, no ill will, no decades of debt, no dead civilians and military personel, and our country would not have been 8trillion dollars in debt, gasoline would not be $3.50 per gallon, and the economy wouldn’t be ready to bust.

    So ask yourself if you think Bush has done a good job as president. If you said yes, then look at the way he is solving the Katrina disaster, do you think Bush is doing a good job after 5 days and people still have no food and water and shelter, if your answer is still yes, then we can assume you are just retarded and a fan of Bush’s. No wonder Bush’s poll numbers are at 20% approval. Apparently 20% of the adult population has the I.Q. of idiots.

    After five years (almost) in office Bush has not one time taken any responsibility for what he has and has not done correctly. His sycophant followers will continue to make excuses for him and place the blame anywhere else for the fact that he is the worst president we have ever had (even Nixon did a better job and was at least not stupid even if he was a crook). The big question is, will Bush ever take responsibility for anything during his time in office? My guess is NO.

  • 2 September 2005, 10:22

    Another childish comment from a Bush fan....how original. By the way how is Bush’s anus smelling today?

  • 2 September 2005, 14:16

    More crude bathroom humor from a Bellaciao Flamer ........ how original.

  • 3 September 2005, 00:22

    Your first paragraph may prove to be 100% accurate. Time will tell.

    As for Bush doing a mea-culpa for specific problems with the war as it is being fought in either Afghanistan or Iraq, I don’t see what possible good that would do. I don’t think you can hem and haw on these things. The invasion of Normandy was appallingly costly. Thousands of men trained for years, were shipped overseas, and they didn’t even get to drag their equipment ashore before they were slaughtered. I don’t know what a self-serving sob spectacle on the part of FDR would have accomplished other than crush soldiers’ morale.

    There wasn’t much goodwill towards the USA to start with. I’ve traveled. I know. If your foreign policy objective is to be loved, you will always be disappainted.

    The Left’s immediate and disgusting politicization of Katrina is ghoulish.

  • 3 September 2005, 08:43

    A shitass and a butt kisser dserve nothing but bathroom humor...fart us another one.

  • 6 September 2005, 15:07

    "we as a country will be much worse off than if Bush had just bought the Iraq oil at the price it was back then 3 years ago and there would have been no war, no ill will, no decades of debt, no dead civilians and military personel, and our country would not have been 8trillion dollars in debt, gasoline would not be $3.50 per gallon, and the economy wouldn’t be ready to bust."

    that right there proves you don’t know what your talking about. no dead civilians? dispite the fact he masacred upwards of one million of his own people. and obviously you know nothing about supply and demand. oil prices would be around $3.00 a gallon with or without the iraq war because there is ever increasing demand without anymore supply. but i spose its always bush’s fault when something goes wrong.

    here is an idea, instead of blaming the president for the thousands dead in new orleans why don’t you blame the tens of thousands of morons who decided to stay instead of listening to the federal government telling them to evacuate. how about blaming the morons who decided to build and live in a city that is both on a natural flood plain and below sea level.

    here is a bit of advice. when mother nature comes knocking get the hell out of the way.

• 31 August 2005, 23:30

  Well it shows that American infrastructure is not built very well. Electricity on poles and sewage system which are wrong constructed.
  I listened to the CNN in the morning and I was suprised how the engeneers would deal with the broken
  levy system in N.O. - sandbags? Give me a break. The military at least should have the neccessary equipment to deal with those kind of breaks.
  Why don’t this helicopsters which fly by carry some water bottles or food for those still waiting to be rescued.
  And why in the hell did the authorities not get all the people out of N.O.? They knew the storm was coming and they tried to wait it out!

  I also acknowledged that the international community didn’t offer help so far.

  Critizism of the American government yes, but hatred against the American people - No and No!!!

  • 2 September 2005, 14:29

    "Well it shows that American infrastructure is not built very well. Electricity on poles and sewage system which are wrong constructed."

    With all due respect, I don’t think you understand what a huge, category 4 storm does. There’s really no way to design power and sewer systems to withstand that.

• 1 September 2005, 03:38

  Why is it that the Pentagon can drop a bomb from 35,000 down the airshaft of a fallout shelter full of women and children but they can’t drop some water bottles on rooftops? It seems like the only thing this government can do is kill people, whether by sinister design or through negligence. But since they only have a trillion dollars in their budget, I guess you can’t expect too much. While we’re busy bombing Iraq into a wasteland, maybe the Canadians can come and save our asses.

  • 1 September 2005, 14:35

    Incredibly, I agree with some of what you say. Killing people is one of the few things that governments, historically, are capable of doing well. Funny, then, that the people on this site want to put more control of the individual’s life in the hands of the government (health care, child care, gun control, etc.)

    Our army is not bombing Iraq into a wasteland, though maybe it should.

    Canada won’t send any more assistance to the Gulf coast then it did to Indonesia and Thailand after the tsunami. That is, none. Zip. Nada. They made the strategic decision to eliminate their emergency airlift capability, so people died.

    Regards,

    MTT

  • 1 September 2005, 20:20

    Canada had a crew there purifing 50,000 liters of water per day. I bet that would sound pretty good right now down in N.O.

  • 1 September 2005, 21:06

    When did that crew arrive, and how? Seriously, do you know?

    By the way, where’s the international relief effort so save people along the Gulf Coast, and which country is organizing it? I mean that question seriously, not rhetorically. Does anyone have a link with info on this?

    Thanks.

  • 1 September 2005, 21:15

    How many Canadians manned that crew?

  • 1 September 2005, 22:38

    That crew arrived about two weeks after the disaster (yes way too long) and they were airlifted there by American Forces because we didn’t have the resources to get them there(also a shame)
    BUT, you had said we did " zip,nada, nothing" which was not true. It was manned by Canadians.

  • 1 September 2005, 23:44

    That crew was The Disaster Assistance Response Team (D.A.R.T.) which consists of 200 Canadian soldiers. They arrived in Ampara, Sri Lanka on January 14,05 for a 6 week stay. They have 4 basic goals : 1 Provide basic medical care 2 Provide clean water (50,000 litres or 13,210 U.S. gallons per day) 3 Repair basic infrastructure 4 Set up facilities for communication. It is a shame that it took so long to get there, and, also embarrasing that we had to hitch a ride,but an important service was performed. I sure hope D.A.R.T. can get to the Gulf Coast soon and start providing our neighbors with this much needed service.

  • 2 September 2005, 14:20

    I stand corrected, and good for Canada. I actually like Canada a lot. You look at all Canada did in the 20th Century, and Canadians should be prouder than anyone. Pound-for-pound, Canada certainly pulled more than its fair share of weight in the world.

    That being said, I am saddened by what I perceive as Canada’s reduced participation on the world stage in the past decade. I hope for a resurgence of the Canada I know and love. As Bono put it, "the world needs more Canada."

  • 2 September 2005, 14:27

    Please see my above comments at 65.*.157.**.

    Please send in D.A.R.T., the Mounties, whatever you’ve got (sadly, with orders to return fire, if necessary—God, that’s embarrassing).

    By the way, thanks for putting up planeloads of refugees when aircraft were diverted on 9-11. I think about that every fall when I get out my limited-edition Canada Centennial Remington .308 for deer season.

  • 10 September 2005, 00:51

    You’re welcome. 9/9/05

• 1 September 2005, 13:34

  The greatest catastrophe to be visited on the American people and millions of people around the globe is George W. Bush. There was an immediate need to address the levee system in New Orleans that was ignored by the Bush administration because there was a greater "need" to divert funds for its adventure in Iraq. Had money been spent on those levees, a dry New Orleans would have only had to clean up after Katrina instead of the daunting task it now faces with 80% of the city under water due to the failure of the levees.

  • 1 September 2005, 14:36

    Yes, I remember all of those articles on this website one month ago calling for an immediate upgrade of the N.O. levee system.

    Keep jamming facts into your warped view of the world.

  • 1 September 2005, 14:48

    When thousands died in Bangladesh due to similar storms and floods a couple of years ago, it got scant media coverage.

    I also find it odd that in the states that are most at risk from ’mother nature’ they seem to be mainly populated by black people. Also, here in the UK its f*cking media coverage overload. and i’m sick of ’’remember 9/11, remember 9/11’’ . How about remembering the millions of civilians killed by US foreign policy since WW2 ? Rant over.

  • 1 September 2005, 15:46

    As if reasonable people haven’t been saying (since before the war even STARTED) that the Iraq war is a ridiculous waste of LIVES (American and Iraqi) and our NATIONAL RESOURCES.

    If you and your ilk supported the war, as you say you do, you’d volunteer. Instead, you prefer to plaster your cars with yellow ribbons and wave the flag. It’s really not difficult to see through such hypocritical behaviour.

    Keep pretending you don’t hear what non-right-wing-nutjobs are saying. People like you always will. Fortunately, most Americans, thought they are barraged with corporate propaganda almost constantly, are beginning to wake up.

  • 1 September 2005, 19:33

    The “world” you speak of only looks warped to you because it is the truth, and you are living in fucking la la land. Secondly, this site can’t concern itself with every aspect of Bush’s failed policies because there are not enough reporters or space to focus on all of them. The flood in New Orleans IS Bush’s fault. The mayor has said for years that if a category 4 or 5 storm hit New Orleans that the whole city would be under water. And he was right. It’s been on the news, its been on PBS, it’s been on the Discovery channel. It’s been on every “scare you now” and hope it doesn’t happen later television program. And yet, the government failed to act. They took funding away from preventing what was known to be the inevitable. Some people are on here saying “Oh, now you are blaming Bush for an act of God”, like that argument works. It doesn’t work. We all knew this would happen and many people tried to prevent it, however, the only institution that could help would not.

    I’ll say this again and again. Number one, New Orleans is fucked. People are dying, the lawlessness is out of hand. Other parts of the Gulf Coast are just as bad. We need to focus on ourselves now. Forget Iraq. They don’t want us, and we don’t want to be there. We need our resources here. Our military should be coming back home to help rebuild the U.S., and not Iraq.

  • 1 September 2005, 21:14

    You’re chasing what-ifs. You can say "if the Army wasn’t in Iraq, there’d be more resources here." And I can point out that if politicians hadn’t cut the Army’s strength from 18 combat divisions to 8 during the 1990’s, there’d be plenty enough helicopters and trucks to go around. And we can both be right. My gripe is that this site, predictably, views the horrible death of hundreds, possibly thousands, as nothing more than a political football.

    "The mayor has said for years that if a category 4 or 5 storm hit New Orleans that the whole city would be under water." You’re right. What action did he and other local N.O. politicians take to prepare for evac’ing the 100,000 people they knew didn’t have cars? They’ve had years to think about it, as you correctly point out. Is it all up to the federal government? Do you want to live in a country that’s governed from the top down, not from the bottom up?

  • 1 September 2005, 21:40

    If the lessons of 9-11 are lost on you, that’s your problem. And how about remembering the millions of civilians liberated by Americans since WWII?

    Rant over.

    "I also find it odd that in the states that are most at risk from ’mother nature’ they seem to be mainly populated by black people."

    N.O. is about 70% black. I’m not sure what the racial mix of the battered parts of ’Bama and Mississippi is. Frankly, I don’t think the race of the people suffering and dying is odd or even interesting, but since you’re keeping score, most people in quake-ravaged ’Frisco are white and Chinese. Those who live in the state that deals with nature in its most brutal form, Alaska, are mostly Indian and white. South Florida gets pounded by hurricanes regularly, and it’s as much of a melting pot as any place in America.

    When I look at this mess, I see a lot of people of different races and backgrounds helping each other out during desperate times. That’s not very good TV, but that’s what’s happening all along the Gulf Coast right now, for the most part.

  • 2 September 2005, 07:55

    You always make excuses about how in our capitalist country the commerce rules and people should take care of their own problems. Yet you seem to miss the fact that the federal government sucks the citizens dry of any "extra" money they would have to fend for themselves. And then you advocate for the government doing nothing or giving nothing back as fair given our free enterprise system. Corporate welfare and non-bid contracts that enrich those in office totally escapes you. Bush has been in office almost 5 years, are you going to give him a free pass on everything for all 8 years or is he ever going to have the buck stop at his desk? The well of resources in not a bottomless pit or did you not know that? Given that most of us can see that resources should be divided and shared not horded and socked away in the C.E.O/politicians in their private Swiss bank accounts, there is no justification for paying taxes or serving your country when it is a one way street. If the government wants us all to fend for ourselves, then God damn-it they should stop taxing us to death and try fending for themselves for a change.

  • 2 September 2005, 08:48

    Sorry, yeah the demographic make up of weather torn states are poor people, and these dispossessed are disproportionately made up of mainly black people. ’’And how about remembering the millions of civilians liberated by Americans since WWII?’’
    The US only enters conflicts when they have worked out the economics -ie a profit is to be made. The dressing up and PR spin follows, along with the rewriting of history.

  • 2 September 2005, 08:51

    Name some......of course you can not since there were none. Germany and Japan are still occupied. And the Nazis are still in charge, they just speak a different language.

  • 2 September 2005, 14:45

    Amazing. I agree with everything you said about taxes.

    I disagree with you about stocks—most Americans now own stocks, so the Thurston Howell III stereotype doesn’t make much sense to me.

    I don’t want to give Bush or anyone else a free pass. However, unlike many on this site, I’m not prepared to blame him completely for the entire mess simply because it’s easier to do that than to write a check to the Salvation Army or go give blood. I didn’t like President Clinton, but I wouldn’t blame him for this.

    I start from the proposition that the worst storm to hit the US ever was an act of God (or nature, if you don’t believe in God—whatever). Then I consider the unfortunate timing of the storm. It formed on the US’s doorstep, the Bahamas. I seem to recall it dropping to a tropical storm when it left FL, but I may be wrong about that—may have been cat 1. Anyway, I remember being very shocked when I woke up Sat. a.m. and it was very strong, and less than 24 hours from landfall. (click on "Track Katrina" at http://www.palmbeachpost.com/storm/content/storm/multimedia/ —great animation). In light of all of this, N.O. city, Parrish, State, and Fed officials—and N.O. citizens themselves—did a great job by evacuating 80% of the population. Could all of these people done more? Probably.

    There’s plenty of time for recriminations. Politicans, being politicians, will all point their fingers at each other. I saw a documentary on the Discovery Channel 5 years ago warning of this exact scenario. However, it’s all a matter of risk management. Maybe a Cat 5 would bull’s-eye N.O. in the 21st Century, but then, maybe not. People from the president down to citizens choosing to live there (with or without evac plans) played those odds and lost big.

    My point? This a complicated mess not subject to simple analysis. There’s plenty of time to assign blame later. We should focus on rescue and recovery now.

  • 2 September 2005, 14:55

    I’m the guy you responded to. I’m not going to comment anymore on your US foreign policy analysis, because (1) it’s pointless, and (2) it’s not the subject of this string. Onwards.

    "Sorry, yeah the demographic make up of weather torn states are poor people, and these dispossessed are disproportionately made up of mainly black people."

    What’s your point, that black people can’t take care of themselves like everyone else? Do you think they are less intelligent than white people or something? Do you not see the logical conclusion of your argument?

    70% of N.O. is black, including the chief of police (the mayor looks Creole to me). 80% evacuated. I don’t know the racial breakdown of those who stayed, and neither do you. As for your prior question about why so many people in N.O are black, the answer is the bad old days of the slave trade, the same reason there are more black people in London than in Newcastle.

    Yes, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama are demographically poorer than say, Connecticut (though I’d trade Alabama’s weather for CT’s any day of the week). However, other "weather-torn states" like Texas (Galveston Hurricane—previously the most deadly) and Florida (Hurricane Andrew comes to mind) are economic powerhouses. Your analysis just doesn’t measure up.

  • 2 September 2005, 14:59

    I was just noticing how the rich white folks don’t live in natural disaster areas, and you’re right, US foreign policy is pointless (for humanity), unless you’re one of the rich benefactors.

  • 3 September 2005, 00:26

    "rich white folks don’t live in natural disaster areas"

    Oh, sure, all of those poor, improverished, minority mudslide victims out in Malibu. And the huge wildfires that incinerate homes out West every summer, yeah, those are populated by Haitians.

    You’re embarassing yourself. Do you see anything other than skin color?

  • 16 September 2005, 13:01

    What planet are you from? We live in a country that is governed from the top down. Nothing gets addressed, no issue becomes real until the so-called Federal Government gets involved. The ’Federal’ Government has been since the Depression a Central Government.
    If your main gripe is with this website, then go to a website that is more pleasing to your cocooned mind. Go to Moonbatcentral.com, or some other Federal Government worshipping website that caters to the brainwashed such as yourself.

• 2 September 2005, 02:14

  Bush is Cursed
  Submitted by Bob Fertik on September 1, 2005 - 12:30am.George W. Bush

  Just think of all the things Bush has lost:

  * The World Trade Center
  * Worldwide sympathy for America
  * Osama Bin Laden
  * Clinton’s budget surplus
  * Clinton’s cheap gas ($1.15 average over 8 years!)
  * Iraq
  * Iran
  * North Korea
  * and now New Orleans

  There must be an explanation. Is Bush cursed?

  http://www.democrats.com/bush-is-cursed

  • 2 September 2005, 08:56

    Let’s don’t forget that on top of it all, our nation is 8trillion dollars in debt, borrowed from the Japanese, and Communist China....I don’t hear any Bush supporters thanking the commies for keeping our country out of bankruptcy, they are too busy pretending they do not know what is going on, waving a flag and spouting Bush talking points which aren’t even as helpful as toilet paper.

  • 2 September 2005, 09:17

    So, Im just curious all you bushy supporters? Fact: Our President cut the levee budget. How is he not at least somewhat responsible for what is going on in New Orleans. Please, I would like to know how you can’t go from point a to point b on this? Who knows if he hadnt if they would have even have had the construction done by now, I will give you that. But wouldn’t a chance at it have been nice? Im sure the people in new orleans right now would have at least been given a shot at not losing everything they owned?

    To comment on the levee being clogged up with sand bags, its a quick fix, but not a permenant one. This area was just devestated, supplies are hard to come by. They are filling sand bags by breaking up road way and using to concrete to fill them. They aren’t fifty lb sand bags either, they are considerable. Plus, you need to stop the water from rushing in over you before you can go in and make a plan. It’s not an ancient fix, it’s a smart one. The repairs will be in stages, and hopefully something stronger and more reliable than the old flood walls will be put in place. That is if Bush doesn’t still cut funding to divert funds to the war.

  • 2 September 2005, 16:49

    The thing about these Bush supporters is that when the shit hits the fan for them, they turn on their former hero like wild dogs. That’s the problem with idol worship. It’s not based on principles, but a mindless identification with the power possessed by the idol. How sad.

  • 3 September 2005, 00:37

    All of this talk of Bush supporters engaging in "idol worship" strikes me—as somebody who voted for the guy twice—as weird.

    Maybe you just assume that anyone who voted for him and thinks he’s done an okay job must love him as fanatically and passionately as you hate him. (?)

    Where do you see "idol-worship"? I bet that with the entire internet, you can’t find one link to post with an example of that. (Note how much I’m setting myself up here—on the wild, wild web, you can find a freak fetish site for ANYTHING.) Go ahead, prove me wrong. I mean, I can’t throw it any slower right over the middle for you.

    NOTE: if you hit a home run, but it turns out to be some fringe kook site, you know, Bellaciao’s opposite number or something, you don’t get full credit. I can’t give away the store, here.

    Bye.

  • 3 September 2005, 09:00

    People like you who come to anti-Bush sites to post excuse after excuse after excuse after talking point after talking point, one lie after another based on propaganda from the right wing organizations all on the same page, never an independent thought or fact to offer (boring and laughable). That is the entire reason most of us can see how dedicated to Bush (worship) you are. You leap to his defense like a mother when someone criticises her little darling. In your eyes he can do no wrong and is always above the laws and not subject to having to take any responsibility....see? Now move along to your Bush sites we are tired of you and your "explainations" about your hero. You promised to stop posting here, now let’s see if you keep your word or if you are just a liar like your hero.

  • 7 September 2005, 14:03

    Swing and a miss. You can’t do it, huh?

    Trust me, I’m not important enough to get "talking points" from anybody.

  • 7 September 2005, 14:29

    I think political debate is important. IF people can rationally argue their point. I don’t want to silence right wingers, (kill’em maybe), lets argue the toss with’em. When they’re silenced -as they try to do with the fascists (BNP) in Britain, the underground, exciting status of these groups attracts nutters/bombers and sad social outcasts.

• 5 September 2005, 22:51

  It has been known for at least 50 years that New Orleans could not sustain a cat 4/5 storm. Now you say it is Bush who is at fault becasue the storm came and flooded the place. Yea, uh huh.

• 7 September 2005, 15:24

  Stop complaining about the Bush Administration’s downfalls and short-comings. This isn’t a time to overwhelm yourself with your hatred towards Bush, it’s a time to get help to the people that need it. There will be plenty of time for Bush-Bashing later. Yes, the reaction time was slow. No, there isn’t enough food or water for the people. No, there isn’t enough money. I am usually a supporter of Bush, but I am extremely disappointed in the response to the disaster. And, yes, he has some really crappy policies and what not, but this is not the time to rant and rave about them. Get the people help and get New Orleans cleaned up. That’s what we need to do now.