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No Link to September 11 and the President Keeps Lying
by Open-Publishing - Tuesday 22 June 20043 comments
By Ibrahim Ebeid - co-editor@al-moharer.net
Selected President George W. Bush used fabricated lies to persuade the American people to support his invasion of Iraq. This war built on lies and deception will always remain a stain in American history.
Finally, the President was refuted and exposed by the Commission investigating the 2001 terrorist attacks. The facts discovered by the Commission could not be clearer and more factual. There was never any evidence linking Iraq to Al Qaida or linking President Saddam Hussein to the tragic events of September 11, announced the Commission.
Mr. Bush and the "President behind the scene", Dick Cheney, are still trying to justify their occupation and destruction of Iraq. It seems that the White House Administration does not read the reports of its Commissions or just President Bush and his Cabinet believe the lies they have created as facts. Mr. Cheney said Mr. Hussein "had long-established ties with Al Qaida. "He was backed by the President who claims that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who may be operating in Baghdad, is "the best evidence" of a Qaida link. This was particularly astonishing because the Director of Central Intelligence, George Tenet, told the Senate earlier this year that Mr. Zarqawi did not work with the Hussein regime.
We believe that the Bush Cheney team is a detriment to the United States and to the World. The United States would be more secure without such Administration, therefore they must be voted out in 2004 and replaced with a wise leadership that should restore the legitimate leadership of Iraq and its Institutions.
The President of the United States said on June 17 "The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and Al Qaida is because there was a relationship between Iraq and Al Qaida," Is this the evidence? This sentence reminded me when he was asked about the list of those who supported the ” coalition of the willing” before launching the war of aggression against Iraq, he said, “do you want me to say the names of the states in the coalition? The list is big it goes on and on and on” He has said nothing then and nothing now but lies and lies.
The lie of weapons of mass destruction that led to the occupation and destruction of Iraq was revealed and the whole World realizes now that President Bush was lying, these weapons were not found in Iraq, however they do exist in large scale in the United States of America, in Britain and the in the Zionist entity.
98% of the Iraqi people aligned themselves with the Resistance and they want the occupation forces to leave immediately. They do not trust the newly US appointed government because it does not represent them. nor it represents the interest of the Iraqi people.Give us the Proof Mr. President.
The Investigators of the September 11 attacks exposed another major lie that Bush and Dick Cheney used in justifying the devastation and robbery of Iraq. Iraq and Saddam Hussein were proven to have no link to Al Qaida or to the tragic events of September 11, Mohammad Ata was not in Prague at the alleged meeting with Iraqi intelligence. He was in Florida at that time.
The New York Times has asked the President to apologize to the American people for his dishonesty and lies. This is a fair demand but apologies will not do any good to the Americans or Iraqis, who already died. Apologies will not do any good to those who were tortured, abused or raped by American soldiers in the occupation jails, in Iraq and in Afghanistan. America must hold George W. Bush and his team responsible for all the crimes that were and still are being committed in Iraq and Afghanistan. He is the Commander in Chief. He must be liable.
The lies of President Clinton about his affairs with Monica Lewinsky were an impeachable offence. He almost lost the presidency while President Bush and his Administration are going free for lying about a war that was and still is devastating Iraq and its people causing young Americans to die senselessly. They must be impeached and tried in the Court of Law. They have violated the Code of Honor and the Constitution of the United States.
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22 June 2004, 19:46
Finally... Some one has spoken up about the absolute unspeakable actions that President Bush has taken and the roller coaster ride that he has not only taken America on but all the people of Iraq.. Mr. Bush like his Father before him is a trigger happy war moungrel... hooray to you Mr. Ebeid for pringting such a truthful story...
22 June 2004, 21:57
Research about the Vietnam war and you’ll find many similarities.
22 June 2004, 23:38
Actually, the commission really didn’t find anything yet. What the press ran with was a preliminary report, and most of the press actually misreported it, trusting that the majority of people wouldn’t actually read the article, like you. Or you would have read the contradictions that come after the headlines.
Iraq and Al-Queda did have a connection.
They didn’t plan 9-11 together, but they were connected.
I do not feel the need to outline that. President Putin did that, Zargawi did that, Abu Nidal did that.
You here what you want to here, not what is actually said.
Because no one for one second ever said that Iraq was behind 9-11.
But Iraq was a huge part of Al-Queda whether you understand it or not.
Just go listen to any of Osamas rhetoric from before or after 9-11.
Iraq Iraq Iraq, Palestine Palestine Palestine.
If you don’t see that solving the Israeli Palestinian conflict is more difficult with Saddam around to pay people to blow themselves up, and to incite fear and stagnation, then you aren’t really worth the time is takes to discuss these things.
Moreover, the situation in Iraq before the war was one that everyone complained about, the sanctions, yet it was a situation that had to be imposed due to Saddams actions.
It was either sanctions, or no repercussions. Or the Arab world letting us remove him from power, but the problem with that is, the other leaders in the Arab world see themselves as next on the list.
So sanctions were there justifiably, and Saddam couldn’t even travel or send his military north or south or certain areas of his "sovereign country," because the world knew what he would do to his own people. So he is the "de facto" ruler, but he doesn’t even have authority over his own country, as decided by the world.
Meanwhile, 500,000 Iraqi children die, and it is America’s fault, despite the fact that Saddam built more palaces in a period of time than anyone in history. Despite the fact that he had bunkers of UNICEF goods that were supposed to be going to the dying children, but were instead being used by Saddam to maintain power, bribe and blackmail. So whose fault is the dead Iraqi children, the irresponsible leader, or the world? Tell me please? And tell me please how your objections to what is happening now would have helped them, would have helped the Kurds, helped the Shia’s, would have helped a situation that the world failed to fix. Your objections are actually condemnations, because you don’t see the reality of the paralysis, and you don’t see cause and effect. You see with hate, you point fingers. And when your arguments are weak, I don’t blame the world for making you that way, I blame you for not learning, hence the lesson.
Is the UN really to blame? and then therefore to haters and finger pointers the US? Because of Kosovo, Palestine, Iraq, Somalia, Chechnya, Indonesia. These are examples where large groups of people got together and tried to handle a tragic situation, which just so happened to have turned out with the unfortunate result of dead people, some of them Muslims. These are the thing Osama talks about, and if you don’t know, they maybe now you will learn about it. Either we are all to blame because of our desire to destroy and punish Islam as Osama claims (whether we be Russian, European, Asia, Indian), and Al-Queda is fighting a just war against everyone, or they are misguided. No one disputes injustice; they dispute how you respond to injustice.
Had Blacks in America never had a Martin Luther King, they wouldn’t have the rights and equality they have today. Had whites from the north not supported them, they wouldn’t have the rights they have today.
I wish the world didn’t need Martin Luthers, or Malcolm X’s, or James Chaney’s, Michael Schwerner’s and Andrew Goodman’s but it does. (X was killed by his more radical followers for his toning down of rhetoric and his push towards non violence- sound familiar to Al-Queda right, killing anyone who is a disbeliever. Even if you were a believer. The three boys, were killed by southern racists because they tried to help blacks. They risked their lives for justice, they died from injustice, and though I wasn’t alive, it isn’t something I could ever forget, or ignore. Responsibilty.)
The point is activists, not terrorists.
Now the result of the situation in Iraq and the rest of the world was that many young Arabs, due also in large part to the repressive nature of Arab governments, the lack of opportunity, and a wounded ego and pride, joined the revolutionary jihad, for the most part to revolt against their own governments, bolstered by the propaganda and hateful rhetoric that stemmed from infidels being in the holy land and etc...
To get a full understanding of Arab rhetoric, and how this is not a media campaign by the west to smear Islam, read Brezhnev’s words here. http://wwics.si.edu/index.cfm?topic_id=1409&fuseaction=library.document&id=35466
That was back in 1967, and he talks quite clearly about what the result of Arab rhetoric will be.
I take his bias against America with a grain of salt, after all this was the hotter part of the cold war.
Now Saudi Arabia has started to feel the wraith of its own creation (read some more Osama and you will see 80-90% goes against Saudi Arabia, and was born from his dissent towards Saudi Arabia). The result, charities are being reformed, education is being reformed, politics is being reformed, economy is being reformed, society is being reformed. Why are these things happening if their actions in the past were the right ones? When you’re right, you don’t do a 180.
Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia is complaining that America isn’t doing enough to get Zargawi and others that are operating in Iraq, and wants militants to be returned to the kingdom, so they can do what, treat them better than the individuals in Gitmo. No, so they can torture and kill them, which is how you deal with terrorists, even when the terrorists are your own sons.
So take your pick, the Taliban, or the opportunity for you to govern yourself. Because if Al-Queda gets what they want, that is what you will get, talibanization.
Forced religious obligation, which is un-Islamic, and totally counter to the message of the prophet,
or free will.
I’ll take a bastard by choice over a saint who is forced. What does Allah care if you are forced, he knows your will, and he decides, not Osama.
No one more lied about WMD’s then the entire world did. The president is briefed, he doesn’t invent this stuff. The entire worlds intelligence was and still is totally wary of WMD’s and the apparent ease in which they could be passed into the hands of terrorists who have no compunction about using them, and have threatened to do so. You act like there was no possibility that Iraq was going to or could have aided in a terrorist act.
Despite Putin telling the world that his intelligence had told him just that.
Now post 9-11, I can see why our government didn’t run to the press and say, "see the Russian intelligence found this out, but the CIA, who is supposed to be better then ex-KGB, had no evidence." Not that we didn’t know, just that we had no evidence.
Do you understand?
Also, it sucks, but we couldn’t really run with it. You cannot reveal your sources, or you won’t have anymore sources, get it!
That doesn’t change the fact that our government knew that Iraq was planning an attack on US.
Wow, the US and Britain and the Zionists have WMD’s. When was the last time they were used, or even thought of being used? And moreover why are they there.
HMMM. let’s see, because Japan would be in control of all Asia, killing and disrespected anyone who wasn’t Japanese, just as they did, with no respect for other religions or ways of life. Because the Germans were hell bent to control all of Europe and the world if they could get their hands on it. Because Stalin made it pretty clear, he could not be trusted. How many more countries would have been behind the wall without the weapons you talk about? Because if we are talking about tanks, and man power, the old SU had us all beat.
You object to America, but we have had the opportunity to be more evil than any of these bastards, but we weren’t. Despite how many times you claim it, we weren’t, we aren’t. We handed the world back to itself, we defended the world from itself, and let everyone else clean up their messes while we took the economic, political and human burden.
The UN is really cute right, but what gives the UN its authority, the American military.
I wish that wasn’t true, I wish Europe and most of the world were not impotent, but they have proven themselves to be on countless occasions were tragedies occurred and the UN did almost nothing. Yet we all say no wait for the UN. Why, so it can fail us all again, fail the people who need it, and contribute to creating another wave of terrorists (learn what I am talking about if you don’t know, because again, Osama will tell you straight out, all you have to do is look and listen.)
The result is that I have to risk my life to clean up other peoples messes. Or I can sit back and watch it all happen again in another 10-20 years. Convince myself that nothing can be done, or that certain people will always hate each other, or that certain people just cannot govern themselves. Bullshit. History teaches more than one lesson, more than one side to the story.
And the history I know is one of breaking down barriers, flipping the bird at the establishment and the aristocracy, and succeeding when everyone was betting on failure. Europe applies the same philosophy that kept their people oppressed for hundreds of years. They are no longer oppressed because America had the dangerous opportunity to think differently. Ours was an experiment that could have failed, but in the end, it became, through the hard work and diligent care of the creators, the only light in this miserable world. A light that has been passed around like the Olympic torch, sparking and igniting the future from the decay of the past.
You say 98% of Iraqis support the resistance. How about the ones who were blown up by the resistance. How about the ones who are assassinated by the resistance. Tell that to the honorable Iraqis who are trying to build their country and are being terrorized and cut down for it.
Tell that to Layla Abdullah Saeed and her husband.
Tell that to the cleric in Fallouja who admonished foreign fighters, FOREIGN FIGHTERS NOT THE COALITION, for treating the people of Fallouja just like he had treated the people in the World Trade Center. Resistance is fine, we don’t have resistance, we have chaos. Chaos because a group of people have made it their mission to see the West fail. P.S. the resistance and the Chaos is destroying Iraq, not the west. Combat ended over a year ago, the damage we caused was over and done, the real damage is being done by the "resistance" and if you don’t know it, you’re just not worth it. They aren’t protecting themselves, they are destroying their country in order to try and regain some face, some pride. And they are being actively condemned and marginalized, by Iraqis, for doing so.
They don’t trust the Interim Government because they know it will be a target. The irony, Arabs know that if you are in any way affiliated with the West, you are a target for radicals. They don’t reject the radicals because that would get them killed; they reject what makes them a target, not because it is good or bad, but because it will keep them alive.
I don’t want an apology from Bush for dealing with this; I want an apology from the world for not dealing with this. That you do not see the culpability and cause for this situation lies on all our shoulders, that the solution lies on all our shoulders but was shrugged of by most of Europe and the World. Well America didn’t shrug; it bent its knees, arched its back, and gritted its teeth, ready to do the hard work that others could ignore because, quite simply, they were not attacked.
Maybe we should all go the route of Spain, and see what the world looks like in 5 years, any takers, any takers, THINK NOT!
Once again, how do any of your condemnations actually help to solve any problem?
How do you suggest to fight terror, in light of the circumstances I outlined in detail?
You would have had to have dealt with Afghanistan.
You would have had to have dealt with Iraq.
Then you would have to deal with Israel. All the while acting diplomatically to reform the Arab nations, that can reform themselves, of the systems that lead to terrorists. (read some Arab intellectuals, read some Arab journalists, they will tell you all you need to know about the conditions in the Arab countries that led to terrorist recruitment, and just about all of them are un-democratic. So the intellectuals are saying that it was a lack of democracy that led to terrorism, hence the need for reform, always from within, unless that is impossible. When it is impossible, it is the duty of the world to aid those in need, a duty the world shirked, but a duty America uniquely understands, because of our most unique beginning.)
To me, sounds like what had to happen, did happen. Although I would love to hear your 2 cents.
Mr.Clark, Long Island, NY