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"We the People Do Not Concede"- Election Stolen by Network of Fraud

by Open-Publishing - Tuesday 11 January 2005
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Election Crime Scene-2004 "We the People Do Not Concede"

By Carol Sterritt

John Kerry did not lose the electoral votes in Florida. They were stolen.

Nor did he lose the electoral votes in Ohio. They were stolen as well.

And with these two states being a rigged game, suspicions multiply. Suspicion falls especially hard upon the supposed three and a half million votes that Bush now claims as the popular vote margin.

Across the nation, at least 400,000 people used voter hotlines to report the difficulties noticed on election day. Among those complaints, a full 50,000 instances were outright malfunctioning voting machinery. And in each of these 50,000 instances the vote went to Bush. If election day machine malfunctions were random, then logic dictates that Kerry must receive the benefit of the machine failures at least a few times. Unless the breakdowns were not random. And if not random, then they must be considered part of a network of fraud.

This indicates one thing: a major crime was committed. Perhaps like Richard Nixon’s Watergate, the process may take more than a year-but in the end, the trail will lead back to the White House. Election 2004 looks, walks, talks and smells like racketeering. There is evidence of criminal conspiracy, evidence of obstruction of justice, forgery of government documents, misuse of the Postal Service and crime committed through and across wires. Also one instance of intimidation demands justice, when late at night on a dark Ohio highway, a young voting activist was run off the road by a gang of thugs. So this is not your simple voting fraud case with several election officials being over- zealous for their party or candidate. This is fraud -carefully coordinated and plotted out. The threads of this particular spider web lead back to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. We stand in the midst of a nightmare whose ending will either be the destruction of this country, or else through our citizenry proving a case of Presidential racketeering, the dissolution of this ill-begotten Presidency.

Sixty one million votes were counted on machines that would allow for no paper trail. The existence of these machines made the crime of the century possible. Andrew Card, Chief of Staff to President George W Bush, may well live to regret his announcements at 5 AM on Nov. 3rd. But at the time he was exultant at what the voting machines had wrought. His voice rang out resonant and a tad bit festive, happily victorious, "I’m Andy Card. I am President Bush’s chief of staff. We are convinced that President Bush has won re-election with at least 286 electoral college votes. And he also had a margin of more than three and a half million votes. President Bush’s decisive margin of victory makes this the first Presidential election since 1988 in which the winner received a majority of the popular vote. And that in this election, President Bush received more votes than any other presidential candidate in the history of our countryÉ In Ohio, the President has a lead of at least 136,000 votes. The Secretary of State’s office has informed us that this margin is statistically insurmountableÉ So President Bush has won the state of Ohio."

What did Andrew Card know that John Kerry did not? Card knew who Kerry’s real opponent was. Kerry thought his opponent in this election was George W. Bush. His real opponent was the rigged voting machines. If we the people of the United States possessed an election system with the integrity of Canada’s paper ballot and pencil system, Kerry would be President. He was defeated by a modern technology so tamper friendly that major alterations to any district’s vote tally could be made within 90 seconds and without leaving a trace.

This explains the flip-flopping of entire counties and even states-that exit poll numbers were reversed to give Bush the margin predicted for Kerry. And it explains how Bush "shaved" down the margin in voting districts predicted to give Kerry a sizable lead. Because of the duplicity of the voting machinery it is not possible to say how many votes were cast, or for who. The switch was possible, and not just in Florida or Ohio, but across the nation.

In Volusia County, Florida, Bev Harris, Andy Stephenson, and Kathleen Wynne undertook a month long investigation. The Black Box Voting team found enough "irregularities" in 236,000 Florida ballots that they began to use the "F" word-FRAUD. The problem facing them was that state law requires that 336,000 ballots be seen as questionable. Election officials stonewalled them so that they could not come up with the extra 100,000 problem votes. In thirteen voting districts, officials withheld the hard physical evidence until the clock ran out. Without those polling tapes, memory cards, actual paper ballots, or access to the machines, the three intrepid investigators could not force that state to conduct a revote. But the hard evidence that Black Box Voting did uncover could serve us well in a criminal case against Florida officials leading from the smallest election officer up to the grand master of them all, Governor Jeb Bush.

The progressive Community in the USA should be celebrating this election. We did everything right. We insured a higher turnout than ever recorded in modern history. We saw to it that there were 4.2 million new registered young voters. We urged everyone registered to vote. And vote they did-despite the long lines, despite the weather, despite the denial of regular ballots and the forced issuance of provisionals. As we watched the election returns, we were encouraged by the major exit polls telling us that John Kerry held a decisive margin over George W Bush. But the exit polls, viewed across the world as the results of infallible science, fell apart at the last minute. No other explanation can account for this, except for fraud. Yes, because of Republican criminality, we are about to witness the JANUARY 20th inauguration of George W. Bush.

When A Crime Is Committed, You Must Act Quickly

It was the progressive community that acted immediately after November 2nd. First progressives made protests and then they undertook legal action demanding a recount. These actions proceeded quickly, with John Kerry missing in action. Within days after Kerry’s Nov. 3rd concession, both of the men who ran for president as progressives, Badnarik, and Cobb, put into motion a chain of events leading to a vote recount in Ohio.

Countless lawyers, voting rights experts, computer experts, and also Ohio’s common citizens were part of the effort. They worked fourteen hour days. Among the pieces of the stolen election puzzle that they uncovered: deliberate withholding of voting machinery badly needed in Democratic neighborhoods where voter numbers had soared; deliberate misinformation from election officials to voters, so that the votes would be disqualified; and machinery rigged during the actual recount.

Even more unbelievable, an entire county, Warren County, was illegally shut down from any oversight on Nov. 2nd. Election officials there claimed that a terrorist attack alert forced this. Only after the election was it realized that neither Homeland Security nor the FBI had requested that Warren County do this. However, some election workers explained to the press that they had been told the previous Thursday, October 27th, that there would be a "lockdown" of the polling place.

The Washington Post reported new affidavits from Mahoning County documenting electronic "vote hopping" from Kerry to Bush. Before the voter had a chance to record his or her vote, the voting machine highlighted Bush as their choice. The legal team has been told by a computer expert that this could indicate the machines were pre-set with a Bush vote as the default. Dozens of other individuals have brought forth sworn statements to the same effect. The legal team is also exploring new evidence that in Coshocton, Ohio, write-in votes wrongly defaulted to Bush when run through the voting machine.

As the recount cast light on so much criminal behavior, it became apparent that Badnarik and Cobb needed to file another lawsuit. This time, the filing was for the preservation and augmentation of evidence and is centered on Hocking County, Ohio. According to a sworn affidavit by Sherole Eaton, Hocking County deputy director of elections, a technician for Triad Systems entered the elections office on Dec. 10th and dismantled one of the vote tabulation computers. And at a Dec. 14th evening hearing in Toledo, stunning new sworn testimony revealed that Diebold technicians have tainted official voting machines before a recount could be done, irrevocably compromising the process.

Although John Kerry finally joined the lawsuit, questions remain as to why the presidential candidate was slow to respond. When a crime is committed, a solution begs for quick action, to ensure that evidence is observed and preserved. The longer one waits, the more likely that key evidence will be destroyed. Kerry acts as though he is not on his own team. This begs the question, was the fix in? Was this election nothing but an elaborate sting?

John Conyers Asks for Hearings and Investigations

Revelations of the most startling order surfaced in regards to Ohio’s presidential vote. They came to light during the Dec. 13th field hearing brought about by John Conyers of the House Judiciary Committee. Joining him were Rev. Jesse Jackson, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), and Rep. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones. Conyers has taken the concept of the stolen election to heart. Because of his efforts, hearings conducted in Columbus, Ohio were well-attended and recorded by C-Span. Citizens, poll workers, computer experts, and voting record examiners were able to relate their election day experiences. Conyers also attempted to have testimony from Kenneth Blackwell, the infamous Ohio Secretary of State, but the man refused.

"I know that Kenneth Blackwell made some decisions that were blatant and outrageous for a secretary of state," said Conyers. "How he felt that his head was big enough to be chairman of the ’Re-elect Bush’ committee and also head of the administration of the electoral vote for the president in that same state was beyond me. There are very few people who did what he did."

Among those criminal activities that Conyers finds most scandalous is Blackwell’s decision to "lockdown the ballots." One website, Democratic Underground, filed this report: On December 10th, Ohio election volunteers were denied further access to public voting records. At the Greene County Board of Elections in Xenia, two California women from the recount coalition (CASE and the Green party) were copying public records and requesting access to other voting records, per Ohio statute. The Board was told by Secretary of State Blackwell’s office to deny any further access to voting records, a clear violation of law. Apparently, the quote was: "These records are no longer public. There is a lockdown on all Ohio voting records." Ohio is no longer the Ukraine. Ohio is now the Soviet bloc and Blackwell has made his office the Politburo.

There Is Nothing Wrong With Conspiracy Theories

There are three choices when it comes to truth and events of significance in America:

1) accepting, in the words of Janet Reno, that "we will never ever know;" 2) accepting what New York Times/Pravda, Chicago Tribune/Pravda, and all of Mainstream Media/Pravda states the truth to be, or 3) believing what seems to be the facts as we are observing and intuit them. In 1972, two reporters, Woodward and Bernstein of the Washington Post, began hearing testimony and seeing evidence that brought about their investigation into the Watergate Burglary. "Conspiracy" said all the many Republicans of the time. "Absurdly stupid and silly news story," said all the other newspaper editors in the country. But their editor, Ben Bradlee, let them run with it. And the result was the 1974 resignation of Richard Nixon.

When it comes to labeling a discussion as that of conspiracy buffs, we must learn to say, "Bring it on."

A Change In Tactics Ensures Victory

Up until now, Citizens Alliance for Secure Elections (CASE) was seeking only the examination of all things related to voting. They were concerned with voter signatures, memory cards for voting machines, polling tapes, county voting tabulators, GEMS and other proprietary software that counts and manages the vote, etc. But after tonight December 28th 2004, they will be interested in things related to criminal prosecution. Among these might well be the phone records of various Ohio election officials and workers. Those of us acquainted with local election officials know how unlikely it is that Warren County officials, on their own, dreamt up the idea of a Homeland Security polling place lockdown. They acted on instructions from someone(s) higher up. Susan Truitt, who heads Ohio CASE, is enthused about the idea of sniffing out the actual workings of the illegal enterprise. She is willing to find out who talked to whom, and on what date. By next month, she may well have assembled important information for Coastal Post readers, and hopefully the world.

Meanwhile please visit www.themmob.com to connect with one of the most effective organizations in grassroots activism.

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Forum posts

  • So I see the election was stolen in Ohio and Florida but not in Wisconsin, New Hampshire just to name a few and oh of coarse there should be no recount in the state of Washington where the vote difference for governor was 129 out of 2.9 million. Oh I forgot when the President wins its fraud when a Democrat win then it is legitimate. So I guess the fact that the Republicans have won the White House in 7 out of the last 10 election is an accident. Let us also not forget that in Ohio every county has two Democratic Election officials and not one has objected to the results of the election. I know all 176 Democratic officials are closet Republicans. They are part of the conspiracy. Let us also forget the five extra Senatorial election won by the Repubican party. Yes I know they won by fraud as well.

    It must be easier to claim fraud occurred than to admit the Democratic Party is not in touch with the
    majority of voters in the United States.

    Hey please do not concede live in the past as many have done since 2000. So long as liberals refuse to learn from their mistakes they are destine to make them again. One more thing you can allege anything but in this country you must prove acusations not just make them.

    OH I AM SORRY WHEN IT COMES TO REPUBLICANS THEY ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.

    • WOW!! Did you think of all that by yourself?—or did you just memorize what your bigoted friends on your radio and TV told you to say and how to say it? It’s time for you and all the other knee-jerk whacko righties to realize that when you dump on Americans, they’re going to respond by tossing it back in your face!! It’s time for "BUMP THE BIGOT" day when every bigot gets bumped by pissed-off Americans. When you’re in the mall and you hear a bigot, just casually and "accidentally" bump them to let them know that Americans hate bigots and bigotry—just a little reminder, just something to remind the bigots that they’re really very much in the minority, and very much alone!

    • To the poster 2 slots above. Excuse me, what do you think would be going on now Kerry had won Ohio and won the election (and there was suspicion of voter fraud) do you think Bush would give up and not take this all the way to the supreme court. Grow up and wise up yourself, all your arguments have no validity in the face of the evidence, if you had even bothered to do research on your own.
      You should thank God that you have people like this above and all of us who tried to do something about this, its your rights too we are trying to protect. All you obsfucation means nothings, get real.

    • Just to be clear. The strong senators that voiced an objection to the substantial problems with the election in ohio are asking for uniform voting regulations and planning to introduce legistlation to protect voters accross america. This would be uniformly applied accross all states and protects everyone, republicans and democrats alike. The only people not interested in uniform voting standards and federal election standards would be people benefiting form partisan politcs and fraud.

      It is the few and the very strong that can stand up for the democracy that makes the United States a great country. I thank those senators that had the strength to stand up before a clearly partial house and senate and stand up for my right to vote and for every american’s right to vote.

    • No. it’s not necessarily legitimate when a democrat wins, as evidenced by Kennedy in 1960. But yes, for the second election in a row when Bush wins, it’s fraud. Only try to understand that this time it wasn’t Republican vs. Democrat. It was Republican vs. "anybody but those fascist psychos in the White House!"
      Congratulations to Mr. Bush though. His team knew that it was far easier to control machines than people.

    • Someone here please tell me the last election won by a Dem that was drug through what the Dems have now attempted in the last two elections. Well, I’m waiting....

      The only reason that the Republicans have to be ready with their own team of lawyers is due to the Dems. And I see it is ONLY Fla and Ohio that are in question....Hmmmm. Sounds like Washington State where King County was the one chosen by the Dems to steal the election there.

      Be satisfied with your steal in Washington State where the Dems screwed it up so bad and then on top of that still whine about the Republicans. Go to soundpolitics.com to read about the fraud, errors and mess the Dems made of the Gov race there to "win" by 129 votes.

      BTW, we the people ONLY covers the voters for Kerry and the portion of them still whining...The 61 million have nothing to concede except that the borders of Canada are open and waiting for your mass exodus. YOU do NOT speak for me and 60,999,999 others, give or take. And I am sure you will take if at all possible.

      All I hear from the left is blah blah blah....

      A Florida Voter and Proud American.

    • In response to the attacks made on my opinion I offer this, John Kerry is NOT challenging the election so to say if the President has lost he would have challenge your first fight should be with your own party not me. You may consider what I wrote as meaning nothing but they are the facts not accusations. Only one Senator objected with the election and even she conceded that President Bush won. I think if you check the transcript of the Senates objection discussion every single Democratic Senator stated that they were NOT challenging the result of the election. They were seeking to improve the system. Which by the way is a noble idea. The Republicans DID pick up 5 more seats in the Senate and NO ONE is challenging the results of those elections. The Democratic Party has the smallest amount of Senators in over 50 years. These are facts. Let me paint a very scary picture, the Republican Party is five seats away from a fillerbuster proof majority. Again that is a fact. The problem is the way the two people above responded to my opinion. You are not going to get a dialog with anyone by calling them a Bigot for disagreeing with you. In fact the fact that I read progressive articles indicates a willingness to see all sides of an issue not just the ones that support my position. I deal in proof and facts not simply allegations. You can call me and the 60 million Americans that voted for the President Bigots if you like but there are many who would be willing to listen just not be insulted. Stop hating the President do not make the same mistake many Republicans did with President Clinton. They hated so much that they lost all objective reasoning. Look to the future not back the country needs two strong parties so that there is a checks and balance. Right now that is not happening.

      Again a fact not an opinion.

    • Dear Readers-
      A paper trail is absolutely required. This country’s trust in the private computer software/hardware produced by Diebold and others is a sign of the country’s naivete and basic computer illiteracy. You can bet that numbers were fudged in this election and in countless ways, voters were disenfranchised.

      There is NO reason not to keep one system for everyone in the country. The system is seriously flawed, and it will stay flawed because, yes, it helps the ruling party to control. "there is no way of knowing who won", WHAT IS THAT? I cannot believe my ears when I hear that we can’t verify the vote results. It’s an about-face on the democratic process and goes way beyond partisanship. The issues were KNOWN and nothing was done by anyone during the past 4 years. Why? Well, the terrorists would WANT us to reform our electoral process’, perhaps? Yes, the terrorists in the White House.

      There is ZERO reason — apart from getting ’instant results’ in the fast-food nation — not to have people simply mark an X on a piece of paper, and then have representative from all major parties count these. Then store these votes in case of recount needs. It works for other industrialized countries (eg. Canada). It’s not hard, people, it’s just plain old counting. I am thoroughly disgusted by the Republican line of ’sore losers’; we’re all losers because we didn’t all have a say in this election. The democracy loses, and big-time.

    • It’s hard for me to believe the level of blindness this country has fallen to. Not to see how we’ve let government, through the technology that was supposed to liberate us, assert their total control — to the point where we lose our freedoms, and willingly accede to more of the same . . . well, I suppose it might have been predictable in the ascendency of advertising over the last century, the making of consumer morons of us all! We are now like force-fed chickens in a coop, each wanting the first and biggest mouthful, and never mind the confinement and mindlessness of it all. Never mind (never even KNOW, any longer) what a truly participative democracy was once like.

      This country is so-o-o-oo sick! I’m very much afraid, my friends, that the good days are all behind us. Ossama has won a greater victory than he ever imagined possible. But not from terrorism, from the rot that had already set in, in the unstoppable march of centralized power. Centralized CORPORATE power, for there are no more voices of dissent. except from people who have not the power to make any difference.

    • To "Florida Voter and Proud American":

      You girlie-Bushies are all the same: You just can’t see the entire forest because your noses are all glued into your girlie-Bush. You can’t prove there were 61 million votes for your girlie-Bush any more than true Americans can prove that your girlie-Bush did NOT receive 61 million votes. You’re the kind of "Florida Voter" who p r o u d l y goes to the polls because you know the machines are rigged by ’yore kaund’ve pee-pull’; right? And anybody who tries to tell you that you’re cheatin’ is just a whiner; right? Well, this is one Yankee who says anybody who pays cash for something without getting a receipt is a dumbass, and anybody who votes and then leaves the polls without proof that they voted for their candidate(s) is a damned-fool dumbass. Seems "Florida Voter" qualifies not only for being a dumbass in general, but he’s a proud PROFESSIONAL dumbass and he wants everyone to know it. By the way, I caught a fish and he was 61 million inches long. If you don’t believe me, just ask me and I’ll tell you again, and again, and again, and again. . .until you damned-sure believe it!

      Yankee Blue Veteran

    • This is quite typical of the infantile mind of most liberals. You sling all sorts of slogans like "freedom of speech" when it suits you but you deny it to anyone who thinks outside of your little box. When you get "upset", you resort to all sorts of sophomoric pranks. Do you intend to bump only authentic bigots, and there are many, or do you use that term loosely to describe anyone who disagrees with you? Passion makes not a good soapbox from which to speak.

  • Thank you for your look at this issue but I really think that no one gets precisely what is going on. As Seymour Hirsch said in his most recent book, a bloodless coup took place in the United States in 1999.

    For the past 4 years, America has not been a democracy - nor will it ever be again unless some serious and drastic action is taken.

    I don’t know exactly what these traitors have to do before America gets the message. One would think they had done everything to get themselves thrown out of office.

    Apparently, though, we lack the balls to do anything about it. I suppose it is much easier to sit on your fat ass and watch "American Idol" than to take notice that we are screwed and that we should be horrified at what our country is doing to the rest of the world.

    As it says at the top of this page: To rebel is right, to disobey is a duty, to act is necessary!

    • When I first heard, on Election Night, that the exit polls showed a clear Kerry victory, and then several hours later, that the exit polls had been "adjusted" and now showed Bush winning, I knew another election had been stolen. We will never know democracy again without a revolution.

    • Amen!
      Isn’t it ironic that the "moral" candidate lied and cheated, breaking at least two commandments?
      I would think that Christians would be concerned about this. Although, it seems as if they stop thinking and let others do if for them when they find Christ. I wonder why God gave us a questioning brain, if we are not supposed to use it.

      What really gets me is the fact that Bush and his corporate bedfellows are doing so much harm to our environment, to our military, to other nations, to our relationships with other nations, to our budget, etc.etc.etc. And he shouldn’t even be in office. THEY CHEATED! He is allowing corporations to dump poison into our land, water, and air and working on opening up our last wild and beautiful places to industry. And changing the laws so that it will be easy for industry to do the same in the future. I wonder how Republicans feel about getting cancer. I would also like to ask Bush supporters, why the rest of the world hates us so much. Perhaps it is because they know more about what Bush is doing that his supporters here.

      In response to the comment about democratic observers not reporting fraud. In Ohio, Blackwell hired the democratic observers! They owe their jobs to the man! And it is obvious that Blackwell was a key player in the fraud and in the cover-up. That argument doesn’t hold water. Face the fact, more than half of America does not want Bush as the president! He got there by cheating and with the help of the gullible Christian Right. How ironic, to do the devil’s work with the help of Christians.

      It is time for a revolution!

    • Amen to that, time to revolt!

    • I’m glad to see you agree that the Democratic Party has been hijacked by a bunch of nefarious malcontents who hate America. We need to revolt and take our party back from these evil tyrants who only want to foist their twisted ideas on all of us. Revolt, before it’s too late!

  • So sickening, I’m so ashamed to call myself an American right now. We’re suppose to be a moral nation? The media is telling us that over one thousand American soldiers have died but what about Iraqis? Between fifteen to seventeen thousand! For what? To become a "democracy"? The U.S. just decided to go into Iraq while the real threat, Bin Laden, is in some mountain sending video updates. I’m neither for the "left" or for the "right", when the counting was halted in 2000 I was being soft of optimistic. Ever since 9/11 Bush, his cronies, and the media are causing us to live in fear. Usually everyday I hear about a new "threat" on the news. Most people will cower and obey but I refuse, I ask that the rest of you continue to resist.

  • Please excuse me but, would madam care for some cheese with her whine? I’ve only one question: Why is there a murderer (Teddy Kennedy) and an ex-Ku Klux Klan member (Robert Byrd) still in the Senate? Oh, I forgot, members of the Democratic Party are very forgiving, aren’t they.

    • ...and you point is ??

    • ...and your point is ??

    • So, yay...

      Democrats this, Republicans that...

      ya’ libruhl!

      ya’ biggut!

      STOP IT, PEOPLE!! You’re falling for one of the oldest tricks there is:

      divide and conquer.

      Red against Blue means the ones who we should be stopping get ignored because, guess what - the politicians are all paid by the same big-money donors and they’re all in it together... except for the oblivious and/or powerless (or flat out killed-dead) politicians...

      This isn’t about Donkeys and Elephants, ya’ll.
      It’s about greedy, already obscenely rich but still greedy for more, more, more, freakin’ GREEDY people against any- and everyone else! (that’s us)

      It’s the hyper-rich. They don’t feel they have enough, so they want whatever you’ve got, too.

      Uncharitable, hard-hearted, vicious and power-mad "tycoons" trying to take back what was won by the wage-earning population during the last couple of centuries: little things like the 40 hour work week, 8 hour work day, pensions, health-care benefits, and every other annoying impediment to even higher, more obscene profits for the Mega-Corporations’ CEOs and financier-investors.

      This may not be a new statement, but it’s still a true one: "LOVE of MONEY is the root of all evil."

      There is a battle. It’s now, and always has been, the very many poor persons defending themselves against the very few wealthy persons - who keep trying to take what little the poor still have.

      See... John Kerry is a member of the same sick-minded secret-society cult of the "Skull & Bones" that George Bush belongs to (like his father & grandfather before him). None of them will deny it, either, though they won’t tell you anything about what it is that they are trying to do... because they’re mostly trying to torture and kill the poor, the brown and the black, and to get even richer and more powerful, and to eventually take over the entire world.

      ("by their fruits you shall know them")

      PNAC, Skull & Bones, US Senate, Corporate CEOs, Federal Reserve and all of the other outrageously greedy liars are pitting us against each other... & It’s working. As long as we’re fighting each other — Red vs Blue, (D) vs (R), South vs North — they can get away with destroying democratic governments of and by the people, and building in its place a world-wide prison-government based on lies, torture, theft, control and domination.

      And THEN We, the People, are all basically Fu><0r3d!!1

      The saddest part: even when they succeed in taking over the whole planet and all of human society — even then — these sad, selfish little "Emporers and Kings of All That Is" will still have small, limp genetalia and they’ll still feel somehow vulnerable, weak, and worthless... and no matter how brutally they opress and torture the rest of us, that will never change.

      I almost feel sorry for the evil, greedy little sh!ts...

      .

      .

      .

      ...almost.

    • So, yay...

      Democrats this, Republicans that...

      ya’ libruhl!

      ya’ biggut!

      STOP IT, PEOPLE!! You’re falling for one of the oldest tricks there is:

      divide and conquer.

      Red against Blue means the ones who we should be stopping get ignored because, guess what - the politicians are all paid by the same big-money donors and they’re all in it together... except for the oblivious and/or powerless (or flat out killed-dead) politicians...

      This isn’t about Donkeys and Elephants, ya’ll.
      It’s about greedy, already obscenely rich but still greedy for more, more, more, freakin’ GREEDY people against any- and everyone else! (that’s us)

      It’s the hyper-rich. They don’t feel they have enough, so they want whatever you’ve got, too.

      Uncharitable, hard-hearted, vicious and power-mad "tycoons" trying to take back what was won by the wage-earning population during the last couple of centuries: little things like the 40 hour work week, 8 hour work day, pensions, health-care benefits, and every other annoying impediment to even higher, more obscene profits for the Mega-Corporations’ CEOs and financier-investors.

      This may not be a new statement, but it’s still a true one: "LOVE of MONEY is the root of all evil."

      There is a battle. It’s now, and always has been, the very many poor persons defending themselves against the very few wealthy persons - who keep trying to take what little the poor still have.

      See... John Kerry is a member of the same sick-minded secret-society cult of the "Skull & Bones" that George Bush belongs to (like his father & grandfather before him). None of them will deny it, either, though they won’t tell you anything about what it is that they are trying to do... because they’re mostly trying to torture and kill the poor, the brown and the black, and to get even richer and more powerful, and to eventually take over the entire world.

      ("by their fruits you shall know them")

      PNAC, Skull & Bones, US Senate, Corporate CEOs, Federal Reserve and all of the other outrageously greedy liars are pitting us against each other... & It’s working. As long as we’re fighting each other — Red vs Blue, (D) vs (R), South vs North — they can get away with destroying democratic governments of and by the people, and building in its place a world-wide prison-government based on lies, torture, theft, control and domination.

      And THEN We, the People, are all basically Fu><0r3d!!1

      The saddest part: even when they succeed in taking over the whole planet and all of human society — even then — these sad, selfish little "Emporers and Kings of All That Is" will still have small, limp genetalia and they’ll still feel somehow vulnerable, weak, and worthless... and no matter how brutally they opress and torture the rest of us, that will never change.

      I almost feel sorry for the evil, greedy little sh!ts...

      .

      .

      .

      ...almost.

    • If, as we have witnessed time and time again, absolute power corrupts, absolutely; who should be "in charge"? And to get the train back on the track, the United States is NOT a democracy, people, it’s a representative republic (based on democratic principles). But I guess many don’t want to use the term "republic" because it sounds too much like "republican". Sadly to say, you are absolutely correct. We are falling for the oldest sleight-of-hand trick in the book - diversion! While we are watching the right hand, the left is doing all sorts of nasty stuff.

    • Is there an echo in here or do you just have a mind like a steel trap?

  • No more excuses. Bush won because most of America is not in high school and hold liberal, rebellious views.

    • To those who see no fraud in this election, I ask that you examine other frauds perpetuated by Bish as well.

      Perhaps you are a moral, God-fearing Christian. Did you vote for Bush on account of his being "Pro-Life"

      Then consider this - the roll-back on mercury emissions championed by the Bush players amounts to a vast increase in abortion. No, not the kind of abortion where a young pregnant teen diecides to terminate her six week pregnancy. but by a reaction that occurs naturally - when a fetus is inudated with so much toxic material that its existence is lacking viability, a natural process inside the pregnant woman’s body occurs - and this process is "spontaneous" abortion (or miscarriage)

      With the mercury emission roll-back, these spontaneous abortions will skyrocket in any area where the populace is thus affected by the toxic emissions. Does Bush Care? Of course not. he uses his "Pro-Life" stance to nudge the "Christian"populace into giving up their votes. But even on the abortion issue, he does not deliver.

      Think about that, oh yee of the Right Wing "Majority"

      Carol Dagg Sterritt