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And so the sorting and discarding of Kerry votes begins

by Open-Publishing - Thursday 11 November 2004
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Elections-Elected USA

November 10, 2004

Are the provisional ballots in Ohio being thrown out? A new rule for counting provisional ballots in Cuyahoga County, Ohio was implemented on Tuesday, November 9 at approximately 2:30 in the afternoon, according to election observer Victoria Lovegren.

The new ruling in Cuyahoga County mandates that provisional ballots in yellow packets must be “Rejected” if there is no “date of birth” on the packet. The Free Press obtained copies of the original “Provisional Verification Procedure” from Cuyahoga County which stated “Date of birth is not mandatory and should not reject a provisional ballot.” The original procedure required the voter’s name, address and a signature that matched the signature in the county’s database.

Lovegren described the clerks as “kind of disturbed” after the new ruling came down. She said that one of the clerks told her, “This is new. This just came down. They just changed it in the last thirty minutes.” According to Lovegren, 80 yellow-jacketed provisional ballots piled up in the hour and 45 minutes she observed. By Lovegren’s tally, three provisional ballots were rejected because the registered voters’ registration had been “cancelled.” The rest, she said, were being discarded because of no date of birth.

Full story: http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/985

Forum posts

  • For you Democrat idiots who keep insisting that Kerry WON the election....

    READ BELOW.....

    Here’s some highlights of Troxler’s comprehensive analysis in today’s Times:
    CLAIM: Kerry really won Ohio.

    There are still 155,000 or so uncounted provisional and absentee ballots. If by some miracle Kerry got almost all of them, he would win. A miracle. [Bush’s Ohio margin of victory was 136,000 votes.]

    Furthermore, there also were 93,000 "spoiled" ballots in Ohio that, had they gone to Kerry by a miraculously large margin . . . uh, well, still wouldn’t have been enough. . . . .

    CLAIM: A machine in Franklin County, Ohio, recorded an extra 3,893 votes for Bush.

    This is perfectly true, and one of at least two serious machine mistakes around the country. When the results cartridge of an older-generation machine was plugged in to the counter, it reported almost 4,000 extra votes for Bush, when only 638 people had voted in the precinct.

    At the risk of being labeled part of the plot, I want to point out that they caught this obvious mistake. You can’t "stuff’ the ballot box. There is a signed, independent record of how many people voted. . . .

    CLAIM: Electronic voting machines in Carteret County, N.C., mysteriously "lost" more than 4,500 votes - most of the votes cast in the county election!

    This one is true, too, and disturbing. According to the Carteret County News-Times, the county’s machines counted only the first 3,005 votes and didn’t count the rest.

    The Carteret screwup didn’t change the presidential outcome, but a couple of state races were close enough to be affected. Besides, the standard of "no harm, no foul" is not good enough. But I would point out that even this mistake was obvious and immediately detected. . . .

    CLAIM: Voting patterns in some Florida counties were suspicious because Bush got many more votes than the number of registered Republicans.

    Several impressive-looking charts and graphs are flying around. MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann singled out five Florida counties for what he called a "sudden" outbreak of "irregularities:" Baker, Dixie, Holmes, Lafayette and Liberty.

    In those counties, Republicans make up only 7 to 24 percent of registered voters. But Bush won there with between 64 and 78 percent of the vote.

    How can this be? Easy. They are northern "Dixiecrat" counties where being a registered Democrat but voting Republican is an old habit. The same counties voted overwhelmingly for Bush in 2000, and his father in 1988 - when registered Republicans made up as little as 2 percent of the electorate!

    That’s just the tip of the iceberg of Troxler’s analysis. We trust that the folks in elite media will take some time chewing over his full report before they lend any more credence to the kookball complainers who want Kerry to "unconcede" the election.

    • We’re the idiots? You should examine why you voted for Bush and then look at his record over the last 4 years. It’s inconceivable that when one looks at the facts they would still "pull the lever" for Bush. Moral values? That’s a joke!! Is it moral or ethical to leave countless people without health insurance? Is it moral or ethical to invade a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, and then protect the country that did? Is it moral or ethical to have the upper class neither pay for this war nor fight it?

      Just my .02

      – c0r

    • yes you are the idiots! sucks to be out-voted doesn’t it? stinks to think that your candidate was no better nor any worse than Bush? When is it the govenrments job to provide health care for all American’s? Think Kerry would have done it? LOL, where would the money have come from?

    • In Bush’s view, the government job is solely waging war abroad and conducting police duty. The rest is up to the citizens. Let them deal with health care, social security, unemployment, the huge national debt etc. Who cares? He doesn’t! Maybe you should...

    • Dixiecrats do not matter. Bush doesn’t matter anymore, either. To hell with the 2004 election outcome, it’s going to take us all there anyway. What does matter is machines running elections that can be hacked, and old fashioned cheating by either side, and ridiculous barriers to the ballot. Our elections have become a complete joke. Sooner or latter it will be you Repubs that are inconvenient for one reason or another and the vote hackers will wack you - unless we force an un-riggable election process from the ground up. If we don’t, you who are gloating will find out that your anointed one has only used you. Your own turn will come. GET RID OF THE VOTE-FAKING MACHINES or this entire country is a sham, a con, a big giant flim-flam, a ruse, a....FRAUD!

    • First of all, I really wouldn’t mind being "out-voted" if there were a rational reason for supporting the "winner". I simply don’t see what it is. And, yes, the government could provide health care for the citizens of this country for a fraction of what it cost to occupy a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, had no WMD’s, had no biological weapons, had no ties to al Qaeda, and did not seek yellow cake from Niger.

      Furthermore, since when has the Republican party cared about backing any spending initiative with taxes?!?!? You have to ask yourself if it’s better to tax and spend or spend and not tax. Supply-side economics or "pay as you go". The only thing deficit spending does, in my opinion, is borrow from the next generation for a short-term solution....

      And this is who you’ve supported. Congratulations, friend. You’ve helped weaken this country and society with your ill-informed vote.

      – c0r

    • Dear President Bush,

      Congratulations on your election victory and for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said "...in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can.

      When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of
      debate.

      However, I do need some advice from you regarding some other elements
      of God’s Laws and how best to follow them.

      1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and
      female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine
      claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you
      clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

      2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in
      Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for
      her?

      3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in
      her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15:19-24. The problem is how do
      I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

      4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
      pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors.
      They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

      5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus
      35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to
      kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

      6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
      abomination - Lev.11:10, it is a lesser abomination than
      homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ’degrees’ of
      abomination?

      7. Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have
      a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does
      my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

      8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair
      around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How
      should they die?

      9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes
      me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

      10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two
      different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of
      two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of
      getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just
      burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep
      with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

      I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.

      Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.

    • Hello. And thank you for the laugh! Loved it. Laughter sends oxygen to the brain, and you’ve probably given many people’s brain more oxygen. Let us know his response! ha!