Deportation to Laos by the Thai police of 26 adolescents belonging to the Hmong ethnic group

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• 2 March 2006, 14:35

  Human rights violation against the Hmong has been around for a long time, and it is time for the international community to do something about it. If the Hmong can do something about it on their own, putting an end to this violation could have been done already. Sadly, they cannot and have to rely on the world to help. So far, the response from the international community has been symbolic, and there is no indication that any powerful nation will intervene such a severe human rights violation. I believe that those who had had contacts with the groups in the jungle of central Laos are as desperate as the Hmong. I plead to anyone who has the power to do something about it to step in to put an end to these Pathet Lao crimes. Thank you.

  Victor N. Xiong.

  • 2 March 2006, 18:17

    Do you know that the current Thai Prime Minister was a Hmong? According to my source, he was adopted by a Thai family as a young child. He still knows that he is a Hmong flesh and blood, but he’s so afraid that the world would know that he was a Hmong when he was born. If he loves Hmong, there is nothing he could not do to help bring these few Hmong back from Laos. The problem is he is so afraid to extend his hand to help just a few Hmong. Also if he wants to he could help these Hmong refugees gain asylum in Thailand, but he chooses to look the other way. He might be the one who supports deportation as well.

    Historically, Hmong are not helping Hmong. When Hmong become leaders, they cheat on Hmong more than help Hmong. This is the reason why no one wants to help Hmong. There are high level leaders in Thailand and Laos who are Hmong, but they are more concern about their jobs than the well-being of these desparate Hmong.

    I am Hmong, I hope one day I will be able to help some Hmong. For now, I am an anonymous.

  • 2 March 2006, 20:03

    I agree with you, but Hmong leaders in ThaiLand, Laos, and Vietnam has no power to change any thing in their government system. They can’t even speak up about an issues whether they agree or disagree. I’m not saying your comments is wrong, but we can not blame them.

    We do have strong leaders in the United State, such as our legeng Dr. Yang Dao, he has good communication with the LPDR. Does he knew about this issue, oh yeah he does, does he care about it, I don’t think so. Why? because he’s Communist. This is the true Hmong leader, who does not give a s—t about Hmong.

  • 2 March 2006, 21:31

    Friends as we entered the 21st Century, peace, human rights and democracy became the principles of values that the democratic nations promote and protect. First and formost, it was very clear that our powerful U S government has announced to the world that these fundamental human rights principles are "Non-negotiable" principles and must not be ignored. Yet, the gross human rights violations in Laos are continuing to spread to all Provinces, in particularly, in the remote villages and jungles of Laos against innocent ethnic Lao-Hmong civilians. After mountains of evidence have been attended to our government and the international community, today, we began to see a minut interest of the crisis in Laos. Therefore, it is time that we must voice our concerns and thoughts to our government, regardless of local or federal, to put our issues on their agenda and for them to take concrete steps to peacefully resolve the human rights in Laos...

    Hugh Vang

  • 3 March 2006, 05:03

    yeah! you can say whatever you want to, but the reality you know nothing my friend. Ua neeg nyob tej laus ib txwm hais tias: Ib sab ceg sawv tsis ntseg, ib txhais tes npuaj tsis rov. Good politicians do have a good judgement, not like the sauvages LOS YOG (COV LOUAG HAIS TIAS TXIV SIAV CES TWG NOJ CES NTAWD!!!!!!)

  • 3 March 2006, 07:50

    There has been no one in this world who can do anything to stop the current regime "World Crime". We are worried for one party has controlled this country for thirty years. There is no constitution to lay on the land of Laos. All laws and regulations of the land are at the end of knife and gun points. Why has the world closed their eyes for so many years? We should do something to stop the criminal leaders of Laos. They are secretly killing their own citizens including the King’s family up-to-date, there is also Chao Anouvong Sethathirath and his lovely wife including Mr. Chai Zong Vue killed in recent month in Nongkhai,Thailand. There are not only the Hmong faced persecutions; other citizens in Laos have also faced the same. One example of their crimes are the Killing Fields of Cambodia since 1975 the Pathet Lao took power up-to-date; we have faced the same ourselves. I am hateful and tearful to talk about the regime that I faced after the country fell.

    R. V

  • 5 March 2006, 14:45

    You are wrong. The Thai prime minister is not Hmong. He is a decedent of Chinese. Hmong issue is small for him. He has his own problems to deal with, especially for the upcoming election.

  • 7 March 2006, 22:54

    Sometimes I think that we forget that the other people are our enemies. Remember not to attack your own until you have proven that they are the ones holding the gun.
    I understand your statement was made out of anger and I am not defending Dr. Yang Dao. But I do criticize all the Hmong Leaders(including Gen. Vang Pao) in being able to make a living off low income families and lying to them for decades to support something that will never happen. Most Hmong leaders are not leaders who will lead their people out of a battle, most are leaders who intentionally lead their people to death. Sorry if this offended anyone. I’m speaking from years of observance.

    Rose Xiong

• 2 March 2006, 19:14

  I am greatly support these comments and also very appreciated for all those helps that our Hmong communities has received from other communities and all other Human Rights organizations. However, I was very disappointed that every times I read these articles they are of very sensitive/great issues to our Hmong people in particular, but these articles was or rarely put/publish into most (if not all) of the mainstream newspaper so other non-Hmong communities will help awared of it and so they can help us bring the attention to the higher representatives. I know that there are a lots of representatives in the communities that we are residing in and also are very eager to help us so our Hmong voice can be heard, but they just not learn enough information and so could not help us out. All the issues that I have read from this website, I wished it were from the mainstream newspaper instead of this non-mainstream newspaper so all the people in all other communities can learn the same information as we do. In this mssg I am not criticizing this website for their great works, but just hope that our information can be read/heard throughout the world by other non-Hmong communities as well. I hope that the Human Rights will help us bring up the bad/and unthinkable crimes that the communist Laos has commit to other ethnic minorities in Laos to the world. Thank you

  Xan Xiong

• 2 March 2006, 19:53

  Please help bring these innocent children back to their parents. UNHCR and other agencies which have power, please put more pressure to the Thai and Laos authorities to find these people. We can not drag this issue for any longer, time is running out.
  Thank you,
  Pao M.

• 2 March 2006, 20:06

  This happened because of Thaksin ( PM ), worry about his business in Laos, he trying to make Lao Communist Government happying and continuing their good relationship to making profit just for himself, his family and some Lao Government Leaders, I knew this 2nd case he made mistake, the first one was 16 people’s in case of Vangtao, Thai supreme court was convicted not to send these people’s back to Laos but Thaksin did it, so please thing it over and over again...why he did it ? the answer was same one I just said above, their never worry about any one else, never worry about what the world doing or other country who has Domocracy, freedom and Human right, all their thinks only their profits both Laos Government and Thaksin, then this is good time for Lao Government to deny and saying " I don’t know any thing about it, Thai police never inform us, this is Mr. spokeman of Lao Foreign Ministry said" so, this is my opinion all this matter, I am blaming Thaksin and Lao Government, Thaksin having hard time now because of Thai people’s, knew what is going on.Only thing Iam praying for all 26 adoledscents to be alive and can go back to live with their parent in the Refugee Camp in Thailand.

• 2 March 2006, 21:24

  It is clearly that the Lao and Thai government have violated the Human Right. Hopefully the UNCH have someone follow this matter closely so these Hmong Children can return to their parents safely. If there any news please forward to me at: Byang@wausauhmong.org

  Blong Yang
  Hmong News TV 12 and TV27.

• 2 March 2006, 22:55

  Time is running out, we can not put up with the denial of Thai & Lao authorities any longer. They know exactly where and how to locate this harmless children. UNCH, how long are you going to listen to their lied. We all know for sure, this children are alreay tortured, ill-treatment, and possible raped by their captors. The children’s whereabouts are unknown, possible they could be death, if they are, ThaiLand & Laos are fully responsible for. And if it is, it will not be human violation, but murder. This is exactly the kind of mistreated we Hmong received for the last 30 years from the LPDR regime.

  This are innocent children, they’re not war veterans who fought the pathet Lao during the vietnam war. So the Lao government have no rights to jailed them, they need to be re-united with their parents as soon as possible. We Hmong are not rebels or trouble makers, we want equal rights and fair treatment just like every one else.

  UNCH, your prompted attention to this matters is urgent.

  Y Lee

  • 2 March 2006, 23:49

    I think most the Hmong problems that hapened in laos and Thalaind are caussed by Hmong people. Many innocent children have died and sufferred, because few Hmong want to be general, governors, and even a Hmong independent state in laos. If the Hmong in laos surrendered we will not have this many problems. Some of the Hmong in laos who are persisted and stay in the juggle for too long, because many Hmong in the USA encouraged them to do so. Many Hmong especially those older and less educated are still believing that Hmong will win someday and return to its former glory such as the pre- 1975. Those Hmong who are still in the juggle of laos now are not fighting for the Hmong caused, but for themselves. They hope that if they win they will become generals, governors and so on. This make Hmong people look stupid.
    In the case of Hmong refugee in Thailand. Many of these people lived in laos for many years and nothing happened to them. They have lands, houses and freedom, but as soon as they heard rummor from Hmong traffickers that USA is accepting every Hmong who can come to Thailand. These people see the America green dollars so big, they sold their houses, land and anything they owned to pay the traffickers and escapped to Thailiand. When they are in Thailand most of them claimed they are "caub fab" who have been fighting against the laos communist for many years. The fact is that these people lived in Phong Savanh, Av liab, Km-52 and other places for many years witth laos communists . Some of these people are communists themselves. I am just a ordinary Hmong person, but I think that Hmong pepole need to take time to think why wherever we live problems follow us? Why we love problems so much that we always create problems for ourselves? And why Hmong leaders love to solve problems instead of prevent them. Hmong always do thing without thinking and hoping that everything they do will turn out good. Hmong refugees in Thailand are sufferring now, but the Hmong traffickers who went to laos and lied to all these refugees now are laughing, because they are rich. If America takes all the Hmong refugees in Thailand, pretty soon there will be ten refugee camps in Thailand, because all the poor Hmong who live in Vietnam, China, Myamam and laos will be rushing to Thailand and we will have a bigger problem. Hmong refugees will never end unless we stop the sources such as stop the traffickers and to edducate all the Hmong that war had end 30 years ago and running from one country to the next will not do any good.

  • 3 March 2006, 03:02

    Sir,
    I do not think you do understand the oppression that the Lao Goverment has been put onthe Hmong and other small ethnicity in Laos. By saying that there are Hmong people still in the jungle because Hmong USA, that is not true. There is not evidence to support this claim. I think you should read more nto the report of the United Nation, Amnesty International and Human Agencies from the third party to see the true about the persecution of the Hmong by thte Lao government. The human right abuse from the Laos government. It has a long history ago. Look at the Lao King, the Laos government did torture, and murder or kill the Lao King. A King of a country and the family got killed. Think about it. Again, think about this issue again, the King’s family had been tortured, murdered and killed. Then, a second like Hmong, how much worst do they get in term of treating from the Laos government. Again, I am hoping that the whole world are not looking at the Hmong as second to the human nature as the Laos government and trying to do whatever they can to help those 26 young Hmong back to live with their parents. OR, the world can look at as lower class because God create the Hmong to be that way and even those 26 young Hmong and many that are still in the jungle in Laos are God belover, it does not mean anything to God. I

    Again, sir, hope you open your eyes to see the world in a different angle then the angle that you are seeing as you state before. Or simply stay the way you are comfortable with as now.

  • 3 March 2006, 17:58

    Thank you Y Lee for making the point clear. I am 100% agreed with you and also think that many of our Hmong who has been driven out of Laos and some still in Laos also agreed and see the same problem that Laos Communist committed to other ethnic minorities in Laos especially the Hmong that are non-Hmong Communist.

    Xan Xiong

  • 3 March 2006, 18:53

    Brother, you mention that Hmong did not think before they do something. Truly you did not think before you post your comments. What you did is exactly, Hmoob tsis hlub Hmoob ces yog koj los mas. Other people are worst then Hmong, but they always defend their people. That’s call true patriotic. Other people trashing the Hmong is enough, you don’t have to.

  • 4 March 2006, 02:03

    The man who wrote this statement said: I think most the Hmong problems that happened in Laos are caused by Hmong. I believe you are a red Laotiane raped your mother and became born on you because your nature spirit was a red Laotiane. If, you didn’t know what was happened at the beginning after 1975 from the LPDR against the Hmong people then do not write your stupy statement in here and go back to live in Laos.

    Please take your times to ask many Hmong around you who were Caub Fab then they will tell you what was happened after 1975. Did you know who name the Hmong CaubFab ??? Go ask your red Laotiane father he will tell you who name the Hmong Caubfab. The word you said our elder people really like to be Generals and Governors that were why they support the Hmong people in the Jungle. Did you know how much they care about what the LPDR did to our Hmong there ??? They could not do anything because they lack of education, they just did what they can rescuse our Hmong there.

    Sorry, the way I said strongly to you because you don’t know notthing what the LPDR planned to destroy our Hmong in Laos. I have the secret what they planned to destroy our Hmong people in Laos before they took over Laos.

    Soon........you will see in your eyes the LPDR will lost what they treat the Hmong people in different race. Do you know the LPDR have daily violated the UN laws: RACIAL DESCRIMINATION & ELIMINATION against the Hmong people in Laos ???

    Siav Hmoob

  • 4 March 2006, 08:49

    Hmong has too many stupid like you that is why we have so many problems. I guess you are one of the asses Hmong traffickers who lied to all the Hmong refugees in Thailand. Everywhere Hmong live problems follow them, because we have too many asshole like you no wonder everyone hates Hmong. I guess a perosn like you hd screwed up your mom and sisters that is you know it so well. We don’lt need stupid people like you to post here or we will have war within us....

  • 4 March 2006, 18:11

    Response to Mr./Mrs.who posted on March 4, You may not be one of the Hmong who worried about the 26 children. I think you are not human being that’s right you are not caring about children. Why you said such bad words "Hmong has too many stupid like you" You are one of the asses Hmong traffickers." Please be kind to the human being instead of Mr.Hitler.
    We Hmong have been suferred enough for so long more than 2000 years from China to Laos, Thailand, and Vietnam. May God convert your heart so you can be better for human being in the future including yourself and your family. Thanks. P. Vang.

  • 6 March 2006, 00:50

    Dear Friend,

    I pretty much agree with you. As far as the people in Thailand concern, my source told me that they are not political refugees but they are victims of people trafficking and economic immigrants, similar to those of Mexicans, and the Chinese people trafficking to the US for years.

    As an intelligent, educated and younger Hmong in the US, it bothered me some with the conflicting news given by many Hmong sources; I went to check the fact in Asia earlier last year for myself. I found that most news were wrong. They were not political refugees but victims of people trafficking. They were poor so always in search of better life which made them vulnerable for trafficking.

    The ring leaders consisted of people from across three countries, the US, Thailand and Laos. Houay Nam Khao property is owned by a rich older Thai person who has maintained connection with some Hmong in the US. The site was secured; the traffickers worked with some Thai border authorities, then sent agents to recruit local dealers in Laos. The news spread the US had program to bring all remained Hmong-Lao in Thailand to the US. The people paid the traffickers to take them to the site.

    During my stay in a village in Xaythany district, Vientiane province, a few families who had been there years had fled leaving their houses and properties. Many people had crossed directly from Vientiane to Nong Khaik, and taken to Houay Nam Khao by some Thai transportation companies who had done business in the Friendship Bridge. A Thai driver who I befriended told me he usually asked by his boss to take van-load of Hmong to the site. Some times he got caught and the people unloaded to the police station, he got fined and let go. The Hmong remained with the police so he did not know what had happened to them.

    With special interest of some people, Hmong problem will never end. We are tired of chasing and paying attention to their manipulation. Let’s focus on your own interest as a Hmong, because if you’re success, I am success, he/she is success, we all Hmong are success and that shows. When we are success, we each will help one other Hmong in Laos. That is the way. Smart, rich and educated people always have the privileges. Let the weak minded play their game and pay their price. Because the poor do not like to listen to the rich, the uneducated do not like to listen to the educated, the slow do not like to listen to the smart. Let nature’s course takes it way out.

    30 years pass by, anger has not solved the problem, differences have not solved the problem, complaining has not solved the problem, political force has not solved the problem, what else? Now it’s time to rethink our strategies. Economic empowerment, educational programs, socially forces and diplomatically will be the ultimate power to bring about peace to the remaining Hmong and Lao alike in Laos. Just like Jessie Ventura said years back, before you win you know how to loose.

    Thanks,

    Remain anonymous

• 3 March 2006, 00:43

  Don’t you think that it’s interesting that only the Hmong posted messages in here? Where’s the rest of the world?

  • 3 March 2006, 18:34

    Brother, the rest of the world don’t care, but don’t you feel bad. Even though the world don’t care, we still have to speak up for ourself. If we don’t do it for us, no one else will do, so speak up.

• 3 March 2006, 00:44

  To my fellow Hmong,

  It is interesting to read all of your comments or opinions regarding this crisis. Sure, the United States and and the international community have not done enough to help those Hmong who are trapped in either the jungle of Laos or the refugee camps in Petchabon, Thailand. Countless of concrete evidence has been smuggled out of Laos by international journalists and brought to the U.S. and the world’s attention, but no one seemed to care in helping the Hmong people because they consider us, the Hmong, to be "second class" citizens, and there are so much division within the Hmong community, which we cannot have a united voice. When are we going to put those divisions or differences aside and start working together for the betterment of our people? We haven’t suffered enough to realize and come to common grounds. Unless we band together as a people and a voice, the U.S. and the world will never pay true attention to our problems. They will just continue to watch and laugh at us for fighting each other for nothing. To those self-proclaimed to be our Hmong leaders, where are you now? If you want to be leaders of the Hmong, now is the time for you to come out and lead by examples. Otherwise, your claims are meaningless. Yog Hmoob tsis hlub Hmoob, leej twg thiaj li yuav hlub Hmoob?

  A Hmong Son, USA

  • 3 March 2006, 18:11

    First of all, a great thank you to all of the comments on this urgent issue.

    Here are my two cents regarding this and other issues impacting our people. I am in the opinion that if we, the Hmong, want changes, we must first and foremost become change agents ourselves. We cannot wait and hope that the general public and the international community will take the liberty upon themselves to address our problems. It is most likely that stationary Hmong leadership with very different philosophical beliefs will ever band together - not even for the safety and freedom of their own people.

    We can no longer blame others, we must take the initiative to do something. Do not continue to blame or wait for General Vang Pao and Dr. Yang Dao or any other entities to resolve the Hmong problems. We all must contribute to the solution. Whether we like it our not, the fact that we are educated and live in the most democratic nation in the world, positions us as leaders in our own way. I believe that if you play the game right, the voice of the people is what rules this country. We, Hmong, must learn to utilize our public representatives to do our work. We must work with all parties as equal partners and stop the shouting game. Diplomacy with Action are essentials.

    Keep the pressure on the issue:

    Call, write, visit your congressperson person
    Call or write the Secretary of State, state department, US ambassador to Thailand and Laos
    Contact NGOs and other stakeholders including Hmong groups
    Engage likeminded Hmong individuals for ideas and partnership

    Here is what my organiation, HMNOG AMERICA - nonpartisan policy organization, is doing on the missing Hmong children in Thailand:

    – Maintaining current communication with the office of Congresswoman Betty McCollum’s office

    – Planning a community forum with department representatives on the situation of the children in St. Paul

    – Finalizing a community, national, and international plan

    Michael Yang
    St. Paul, Minnesota

• 3 March 2006, 04:39

  cov yawg hais dab tsi txhob hais raws nej lub siab chim tiam sis hais kom sawv daws yuav tau thiaj yuav daws tau qhov teeb meem

• 3 March 2006, 06:07

  In February 2002, the U.S. State Department and Congressional leaders requested from the Hmong to provide facts so they could use the facts to help resolve the ongoing genocide against the Hmong. The effort of the Fact Finding Commission (http://www.factfinding.org/Commission_Reports/page67.html) clearly brought enough independent validations to the U.S. government and the international community to condem the Lao government but these world leaders have taken the Hmong plight at such ignorance notice to act. It is a shame, especially to the American government and its people to use their world power (money) to bride the indigenous people to fight for them and at the end abandoned them and left them to die and carry the American burdens.
  The Bush Administration is blind, and so is Kofi Annan’s Administration. All the desperate Hmong asked for is their lives, safety for them and some freedom so they can live and their future will have a freedom, and not be hunt down by the combine military forces of the Lao PDR and Socialist Republic of Vietnam. They have been hunted down since the American abandoned them in 1975. It has been nearly 31 years now and they continue to plead but the Americans and the world leaders thus far ignored them. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
  As long as the Hmong continue to die carrying the American burdens, the United States will not live in peace. Look at all the wars and destructions America had brought to the Middle East and other parts around the world. Who pays for the prices? INNOCENT LIVES. Americans are consumers and once they get want they come for then they turn away and ignored those who put their lives on the line to satisfied the Americans. Katrina and the many hurricanes are a good punishment by GOD for the destructions and sorrow to the Americans. Who struggled here? Government plays politics and destroyed others’ ways of lives and used them and the American people are being suffer the punishments. The Hmong beliefs in spiritual power that God and heavens are in the sky and God punishes those who are untruthful and evil. No one can withstand the American’s Army, Navy and Air Force so only mother nature can bring such destructions to fight against America with it’s super natural power of earthquake, tornadoes, hurricanes and flood.
  To the American people. If we are TRULY "united we stand" then why not live up to our phrase and stand against our government and return the favor to help those who have sacrificed for the freedom we are cheerishing today. If we truly are "united" to fight our enemy, not Bin Laddin, but our own government first before an outsider. Has anyone asked our U.S. government why terrorism initiated in the first place? I’m sure our government must have upset them someways or another in the first place. Please be wise and be kind to human being and before fighting a foreign enemy, we must fight our domestic enemy first. It is time our government tell us the truth rather than propaganda and lies.

  May PEACE be with those in love of human kind and true freedom!

  Menyuam Hmoob

  • 3 March 2006, 16:10

    Excellent memo.

  • 3 March 2006, 23:05

    Human Right is the important issues for every one in the world. The Thai Government have station a refugee camp for Hmong and Lao refugee since the Pathet Lao communist broken the Paris Treaty. The Thai government have been close allie with the US government and respect democracy. I want to thank the Thai govenment continue provide land for the new refugee in Phetchabun, Thailand. But the Thai governement need to respect Human Right. The Thai Human Right oganization also concern about this 26 Hmong refugee teens dispear, I want to thank them.
    No matter you are Hmong non Hmong or what color you are, what religion you are, ete as human being we need to treat each other with a respect and follow the Human Right law. It is important that the United States, The EU stand for this issues but sad that it is too slow. It is sad that the ASEAN had done almost nothing for it communist dictatorship member who hid thing out. The whole world must read the lip of the Communist LaoPDR who used power to froce the election early and did not know where this 26 teens where about. It is seem like the Thai and the LaoPDR play game and treat this people racism, unequal. Hmong American need to be united stand with your congressman, senator, the United States , EU to fight human right for the Hmong in Thailand, Laos, and the world, we need to work with other human right agency in Thailand and the world to make sure that Hmong around the world and other mority group treat fair and equal.
    The world and many democracy nation must look at LaoPDR the they have send many innocent leaders and the King and Queen to prison and torture them to death. No one care about this issues, the Royal Lao family and all Laotian people must united to bring true democracy to Laos. We need quality education, healthcare, technolgies, business, free of sppeech, press, assembly, religion into Laos ASAP if we care. I am sick a tire of the LaoPDR government style, I am tire to see the communist Soviet flay flying for no reason in Laos. I wonder why a democracy country like Thailand is not tire, and also a super power nation like Japan still act like chicken to work and donate billion yen to the dictator LaoPDR. In order for the world to be peace democracy is need for all countrues and nation in this planet. I am so tire of communist !

    Pro Democracy and Pro Bush ! Pro Reagon, and Pro JFK, Pro MLK, PRO Abrham Linclon, and Pro Taiwan to be Freed and set New Democracy nation in Asian from the Red China.

• 3 March 2006, 06:17

  95% of the Hmong in America who can speak and write English are a who bunch of SMARTY ASS.
  TALK THE TALK BUT NEVER WALK THE WALK.
  There’s great difference between TXAWJ and NTSE.
  Of the overall Hmong-Americans, the majority of these Hmonglish are whole bunch of ruam ntsab ntse and nothing else.

  SHUT THE HELL UP AND START ACTING.

  30 YEARS OF DEATH AND STRUGGLE IS ENOUGH.

  Yog kuv cov lus no cem mob nej siab, nej thim xav lawm los pos cov tub txawj ntxhais ntse.
  puas tsim nyog peb ua ntsws tsab ntse hwv thiab tseg txoj kev kom tau ntsej tau muag, nto npe thiab ntshaw txoj kev ua nom. no matter how good you are, Hmong is all in you. Txawm koj yauv zoo npaum cas los nco ntsoov hais tias koj tseem yog Hmoob phev mog.

  Thov hlub peb hais neeg Hmoob nawb mog yog hais tias kuv cov lus no mob nej siab.

  Thank you!

  menyuam hmoob

• 3 March 2006, 07:27

  COV PHOOJ YWG, PEB YOG TIB NEEG TIB YAM. YOG LEEJ TWG YUAV HAIS DAB TSIS XAV KOM ZOO MAM LI HAIS THIAJ UA TAU RAU LUB NTIAJ TEB NO SAIB TAU PEB COV NEEG, THIAB SAIB PEB MUAJ NQIS. TSIS YOG HAIS KOM ZOO YUS SIAB XWB UA RAU LUAG LWM HAIS NEEG POM TIAS PEB TSIS YOG IB COV NEEG UAS MUAJ NUJ NQIS. PEB YUAV TAU XYUAS ES KOM PEB TAU TUAV KO THIAB PEB TSIS TXHOB TUAV HNIAV. PEB THIAB LI NROG LUAG LWM HAIS NEEG NYOB TAUS RAU LUB NTIAJ TEB THIAB DAIM AV.

• 3 March 2006, 09:52

  Well so far I’ve seen many Hmong people always blame others for our problems no wonder where we live people don’t like us from China to USA. Comeon Hmong people we need to take responsibility for action. We are no longer primitive people who have no education and waiting for others for help. If we act like animals people will treat us like animals. It’s time for us to take a closer look ourselve and think why Hmong have so many problems. In Laos Hmong has problem with the laos people, because Hmong want to be free like animals tjat can run freely and do whatever they want to do no laws just like 500 years ago. Now in the USA Hmong are starting to cause trouble, because Hmong want to be like bush people who don’t want to stay under any law. Hmong people thinklaws are bad for them.
  The Hmong refugees in Thailand is caused by Hmong. I don’t believe that the laos goverment would kill these Hmong if they stayed in laos, but the $$$ would kill them that is why the moved to Thailand and hoping that they can come to USA and be rich like many Hmong traffickers who lied to them while they were in laos. Now Thai, Laos and many other nations think that Hmong people are crazy and ignorance. Many Hmong people in laos cannot visit Thailand now, because Thai people think Hmong are bad people who always run around to wheneverr they want and wherever they want to live. Many Thai and Laos people looked down on the Hmong and staring to treat Hmong like animals or worthless people. We need to stop blaming others and cover our asses so we will have less problems in the future otherwise these problems will stay with us forever. If we keep doing the same thing, the outcome will be the same unless we change nobody will change for us. From our great great grandparants unitl now we have changed a little no wonder we face the same problems as our great great grandparents faced 2000 years ago.

• 3 March 2006, 19:52

  This problem will not be resolved if members of the Hmong community do not take the initiative to press the issue. We have to stop wishing/demanding/criticizing that this or that should have been done, I am challenging each and everyone of us to take the liberty upon ourselves in our own capacity to become a change agent. We no longer can blame on General Vang Pao or Dr. Yang Dao for not doing enought, let alone anything at all. Unbeknown to us, they may very well are doing all that they can. You and I have to do something about it.

  By utilizing our elected representatives and playing the political card right, I believe the Hmong community in the US can and will make a difference. We must treat all stakeholders as equal partners with due respect, even the Thai and Lao governments. Action and diplomacy goes hand in hand, but we must advance strategically to win public support. We must stick to the issue of human and civil rights of these children.

  Here are my suggestion and this is what, HMONG AMERICA - a nonpartisan policy organization, is doing.

  – Contact (call, write, visit) your congressional representatives, State Department, and the Secretary of State - and request that they contact the Thai and Lao ambassadors in DC and the US embassies in these countries to resolve the issue immediately - be brief and specific.

  – Join other community groups who are working on this issue to maximize your effort

  – We are planning a community forum in St. Paul, MN for representatives of the State Department and other related officials to brief the Hmong community on this issue and with Q/A.

  Michael Yang
  Saint Paul, MN

  • 6 March 2006, 16:36

    To Me nyuam Hmoob thiab cov pheej cev Hmoob hauv no:

    Koj kuj muaj tswv yim zoo kawg, tab sis koj lub siab luv kawg. Koj yog tus sau lus phem kawg rau hauv rau ntiaj teb pom. Koj mas thiaj tseem yog tus tsab ntse thiab ruam kawg uas tseem pheej sau ntawv hais lus phem rau hauv no.

    Kwv tij Hmoob neej tsa phooj ywg kuv pom zoo li ib txhia hais hauv no. Peb hais dab tsi sau dab tsi mam xav mam hais hais kom yog.

    Kuv tsab ntawv sau hauv no yog "Pro Democracy" kuv nyiam democracy tiag tiag kuv thiaj tau hais in conservative mind of promote democracy, and Human Right to all people around the world. Peb sawv daws paub zoo tias peb Hmoob tseem tshuav ntau yam yuav los sib kho sib pab. Tam sim no Hmoob Meskas twb xyaum sib yoog zuj zus lawm. Cov Hmoob Democratic nyob hauv nroog ntxaib lawv yeej sib zom los kiav lawv tes hauj lwm uas lawv muaj yeej tau tus caub muas tshiab Colemen no, thiab tau ob tus Hmoob Dem. Labor mus nyob hauv xab phas MN uas make a histroy for us, tab sis Hmoob Republican nyob nroog ntxaib cas tsis hnov nej ua suab sab li. Sawv daws yeej meem los sib debate pab peb haiv Hmoob thiab cog kev phooj ywg nrog lwm haiv neeg. Txhob sau ntawv hais lus cib nyeej sib thuam sib ntxub ntxaug rau hauv no.

    In my openion, respond to Me Nyuam Hmoob leberal article about Bush and the American people. I beleive that President Bush is a great leader follow our greatist President Reagon step toward demmocracy. Why ? President Bush free Afansistan, and now hope for Iraq. Many women under Taliban control now is free, men and women must have same voice and leadership in the world. Sure, demestic is a issues for American people, but we able to solved our demestic problem, and the great thing "we the people" in USA have a long history help other people around the world to be free and democracy like South Korea, France WWII, and the Cold War. President Bush just visit China, speech from his heart to China leaders to look at Taiwan govt model and worship at the Christian Church in Peking, China. This is wonderful job! So, remember that 9/11 both Dem and Rep. work together to fight terrorist. So, me nyuam Hmoob no matter you are liberal, or what party u r stand we must work together to united us and fix us so we can live with other people in the world. Welcome your positive respond !

    God Bless the 26 teens safe return and God Bless all who stand for Freedom and Democracy !!!

    Pro Democracy

  • 7 March 2006, 07:25

    I am very much encouraged to have known that there are still so many Hmong who have concerns for the Hmong family - regardless of the tone of the respective messages. Free speech is a protected American right and I am in support of people speaking their minds. However, I would respectfully encourage that we be kind to one another in our effort to bring about safety to these children.

    In this discussion, there are many good point of views and arguments, however, so far I have come across only a few actual actions that are being taken place. It would be very beneficial to hear from more people as to what others are doing across the nation. As President Kennedy onced said, "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country". Perhaps, we should learn from this quote and ask oursevle - what can I doing about this problem?

    Peace and be Kind!
    KEO