John Kerry & Bush Cabal’s Iran-Contra Conspiracy: Kerry/Bush a cover-up team for 20 yrs

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• 4 September 2004, 18:59

  Kerry was put in place to let everyone go, not hold anyone accountable. Doesn’t Oliver North have a TV show now?

  Kerry will pardon the evil cabal that has brought us the bush blunders and plundering.

  We must throw out both Bush and Kerry. America Can do better!

• 4 September 2004, 21:11

  How do we throw out the democratic nominee before the election? Let’s hold an emergency session of the democratic delegates. Better yet, let the nomination go to Dennis Kucinich, he had the second most delegates.

  Kerry is going to lose to Bush. Anyone ELSE can beat Bush. He is the easiest candidate to beat ever. But Kerry can’t beat him. Kerry thinks Bush is a good debater.

  If Dennis Kucinich were the nominee, the republican party would have been forced to find a decent candidate by now.

• 5 September 2004, 21:59

  Voting Democrat or Republican in the next election will solve NOTHING.......

  The thing to remember about all of this is the FACT that the people we
  seem to be blaming for all of the problems we are seeing are just paid
  "actors" in a very bad "B" movie.

  They have no more control over what has happened than you or I. They are
  told what to say, how to say it, when to say it, where to stand, where
  to sit, when to shake hands etc. etc. Have you ever seen Bush make a
  speech without a "script"? Or any President for that matter. Someone
  else writes their speeches and that means they are paid actors speaking
  someone else’s words. If they actually had original thoughts of their
  own, they would not have been "elected" or they would be assassinated
  after they were.

  So....do we get mad at the actors of the bad "B" movie because the plot
  really sucks? Or do we get mad at the script writers and the people who
  are paying the script writers.

  Do any of you REALLY believe that Bush & Co. have enough intelligence to
  run the government of the United States? If any of his actions and the
  actions of his gang prove anything, it is that they are incapable of
  doing so.

  Dubya and his father both have I Q’s that are sub 100. In fact I believe
  Dubya has an IQ of only 93.....which makes him very close to
  retardation. Can you actually blame a retard for their actions? Of
  course not.

  Folks, it is all an illusion. The wool has been pulled so far over our
  eyes that we cannot see what is really going on.

  I was reading on a military forum the other day that anyone who thinks
  that Bush & Co. had anything to do with 9/11 or allowed it to happen
  must be crazy because it would mean the end of the Republicans. Yes that
  is the plan. I will get to that in a minute.

  Of course the Democrats are no better. Especially since Kerry is Bushes
  "blood" brother from Skull & Bones. Nothing will change because they
  both follow the same agenda.....remember a Skull above no other!

  It is a fact that almost every member of both political parties are
  members of "secret" organizations that have a very different agenda than
  the one that the political parties speak about. We have a very large
  problem here that will not go away by simply voting for the other party.
  This is why nothing ever changes. They all belong to the same groups.

  So what does this mean? If both major political parties are part of the
  same organizations, does that mean we cannot change the agenda? If both
  political parties are not fit for office what can we do? There are
  solutions, but they are not easy to roll out.

  It appears as though we cannot trust anyone who is currently or has been
  previously in our governments. Why is this? Why would these people do
  things that they know will make them look bad and make them
  untrustworthy? It does not make any sense........unless you look beyond
  what the television is telling you or the newspapers are printing.

  This is a classic case of "Problem, Reaction, Solution". It is the way
  these organizations make global changes and it is being use here at home
  to make the changes they want for our future.

  It works like this.....you have a problem......How do we bring
  totalitarian government to democratic countries like the US and Canada?
  And how do we get the people of the US, Canada and Mexico to agree to an
  American Superstate....ie; American Union, not unlike the European Union.

  Well you have to do a number of things first.

  To get the ball rolling you introduce things like NAFTA....North
  American Free Trade Agreement. Just a free trade area, nothing to worry
  about, it will be good for the economy. This gets people thinking about
  the idea of the American Union

  The next step is CAFTA...Central American Free Trade Agreement, which
  brings in the southern half of America. Getting closer........I believe
  this was just signed the other day.

  In order to bring about more control over the masses they need something
  that will allow them to write more laws. Something big.......I know,
  what if a few planes were to crash into downtown New York, killing many
  people and scaring the hell out of the rest of the world, especially the
  US and Canada. If they did that we would be screaming, "Something must
  be done, what are YOU going to do about it?" Of course they can then
  come forward with something called the Patriot Act, which has nothing to
  do with being a patriot, but grossly curbs our rights and freedoms forever.

  The next thing that has to happen is that the population must believe
  that their government is so corrupt that it is beyond repair and must be
  replaced...but with what? Obviously there is no real replacement due to
  the fact that both major political parties are beyond corrupt. We see
  this with the current scandals and corporate theft.

  Then the next step is to drive the value of the currency down so low
  nobody will want it. This is happening all over the world as most
  countries are moving away from the US dollar to the Euro. Also as a side
  note they have started making US money with colors, which will make it
  easier to convince us to accept the new color Amero when it is unvealed.

  Of course there will have to be one more major "terrorist" attack in
  order to bring about martial law, which will allow them to do some
  really crazy stuff that I will not get into here.....but I am sure you
  get the picture.

  With no government, currency worthless, international opinion against us
  and a police state in place, they will make the "suggestion" that the US
  join with Canada and Mexico and the rest of the America’s to form a
  place called the American Union. The new currency will be the Amero and
  we will all just love it.............yeah okay.

  They will also do the same thing in Asia to create the Pacific Union
  which will include Australia etc. Each union will be part of the
  centralized global government system.

  It is all part of the agenda to have a One World Government, One World
  Army (NaTo), One World Religion, One World Currency (World Bank -IMF)
  and a Micro-Chipped population that is a piece of cake to control and
  track. In fact all of this is happening as I write this.....

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  This is no joke folks....it is happening very quickly right under your
  nose and before you know it you will have to have one of these if you
  are to do any business or buy anything.....didn’t they write about
  something like this in the bible.....oh ya, that was one of their screen
  plays...I forgot.

  Once the American Union, European Union and the Pacific Union are in
  place they have one more trump card to play......Extraterrestrial Invasion

  As Ronald Reagan said at the UN, "A threat not from this world will
  materialize and we will all "realize" that we are all one people on this
  planet and that we should all come together in defense of this planet"
  or something like that........we will have to give up our individual
  rights for the good of all in order to defend against this "external"
  threat.....yeah okay.

  Once we fall for this scam, we are finished.

  This is a very bad "B" movie folks with even worse acting.

  We can stop it from happening, but that will take us working together.
  We cannot put any worth or value into what they are doing or saying.
  They are only following the scripted agenda that is being handed to them
  and they cannot do anything for us. We are alone in that regard.

  The only way out of this mess is to literally fire everyone top down,
  just like they have to do in corrupt corporations and start from
  scratch. The system works fine, it is the people operating it that are
  corrupt. Therefore we need to get rid of them and hire new people.
  After all they do work for US.....not themselves. Which makes them truly
  accountable to US......not them.

  The first thing we need to do is revisit the constitution. I know a lot
  of revisions have taken place over the years, but I think if we start
  from the very beginning and use the original document we cannot be too
  bad off. After all, the founding fathers did have some good ideas did
  they not.

  Then a truly independent commission is formed that does nothing but
  interview potential candidates for the open positions that have been
  created.

  Each candidate must meet minimum requirements.

  They must have a proven, successful track record in business with
  exceptional management skills. After all our governments should be run
  like a business, not a personal piggy bank. We cannot accept people who
  have no skills or have failed miserably at business.....not like...you
  know who. We need people who can run this without destroying it or
  stealing from it for personal gain. This same commission will be needed
  to oversea all spending and to make sure that we are not being taken for
  a ride again.

  Second, they CANNOT be members of Skull & Bones, Trilateral Commission,
  Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg Group, Royal Roundtable,
  Masons, Church of Satan, Bohemian Grove, Mormon, JW or any other mind
  controlling organization with an agenda of it’s own......sorry
  guys/gals, but we need unbiased individuals to run this. It is a funny
  thing that almost every member of our current government, all sides, are
  members of these organizations. Coincidence........I think not.

  Third, the size of government is to be drastically reduced. Put the
  power of decision back into the hands of the people. It is a very easy
  thing to do now that we have the internet. You could have a vote every
  morning with your coffee on the day to day issues of local, state and
  federal operations.

  Fourth, put EVERYONE in jail for the crimes they have committed while
  they worked in government. Give them a taste of what that is like. They
  have sent enough of us to jail for trivial things that did not deserve
  it......they should experience that form of hell first hand.

  Fifth, all military is brought back to our shores. Only humanitarian
  missions should be acceptable. They do not need to be overseas fighting
  imaginary wars. They need to be here protecting us! Not that we need
  protecting, but you know what I mean.

  Sixth and most important......everyone must watch the Daily Show with
  Jon Stewart......extremely funny and very relevant to what is going on.....

  Of course there is more that needs to be done, but that is a short list
  to start with. If we can accomplish those few things, I think we will be
  much better off than we are right now. These people work for US and we
  have the right to fire them if they are not doing their jobs properly. I
  would think you would agree this is the case and has been since the start.

  I think one more important thing needs to be done...bring back Hemp!

  Hemp can also change the world. You can make fuel out of it, thus
  solving the oil crisis, you can make paper out of it, which will save
  our forests...I like to breath oxygen, you can make food out of it, it
  is the best source of protein on the planet, you can make clothes out of
  it....and the list goes on and on.

  Any thoughts on this long drawn out post?

  • 9 September 2004, 17:21

    All I can say is it sounds very good. Once again talk is cheap, how de we make this happen,
    we have (thru television reality shows etc.) allowed half of the American people to be dummied
    down. We have let the so called "news media" spoon feed lies to the American people.

    I believe the media should be the first to go, America has to be given the truth on all issues!
    Without being given the truth they will continue to be hypnotized in mass as the German people
    were under Hitler. I think taking over the media is the first order of the day!! From there,
    once getting the facts to the people, hopefully they will wake up!!

    I am an American, over 55 years old, third generation, I am sick at heart on what is happening to "OUR AMERICA"!!!!

  • 14 September 2004, 18:13

    Tuesday, September 14, 2004

    The only problem with taking over the media is that now we’ve resorted to the same tactic government and big business use and all we’ve really succeeded in doing is eliminating freedom of speech. Thus turning the media into nothing more than a one sided propaganda tool, which in essence would make it no different then some of it is now. The key here would be to achieve some method of information fact finding that benefit all or no one, with no in between. It’s the people factor in between that change the whole equation, because it’s here where facts can be tainted or completely changed or omitted. We all have a tendency to see things in a different light, that’s what makes us all unique and human. The old rumor mill is a classic example, just tell one person in a room full of people something and have them to pass it along, then see what you hear by the time it reaches the last person. Then there is the worst case or what we’ll call the evil element, people motivated to deceive and distorts facts for whatever self serving reasons or hidden agenda they have. These are the ones we need to weed out of government. Yes, I know we would end up only a handful qualified to run the nation on our behalf. But do we continue to sit idle and nothing ever changes? I think not!

    What seems to be common knowledge among some American’s is that our elected officials are catering to the corporate and banking elite. This is accomplished via campaign contribution funding of their chosen politician and the remainder of Americans can’t quite seem comprehend the big picture. The media are slightly different in this regard, but they too have their own set of set of tools and restrictions. Why do you think we are still able to voice our opinion/s both in public and print? For now at least, thank God!

    Not if some have their way, however. I believe the best place to start is here:

    Send a message, make it loud and clear. NO MORE LIES! Breach the peoples trust and suffer the humiliation of being thrown out of office.

    We need to make it absolutely clear that anyone elected by the people will be taken out of office if they betray our trust. I don’t know about you, but I rather despise a liar and everywhere these days I see people that don’t hesitate to lie, for meaningless reasons or even at other people’s expense. The peoples trust must be honored and guarded as the sacred symbol it is. Faith and trust comes with great responsibility, the elected official is expected to administer the position on behalf of the nation and most of all, the American people. To betray this trust betrays the American people and the people now reserve the right to challenge the integrity of this official. If found guilty, be immediately removed from office and a backup put in place, thus filling the void until a suitable replacement can be elected.

    The banking elite employ the same age old tactics they always have. It may be a different time and place or method, but the end result remains the same. They use their mighty wealth like a sword and shield, and the influence or intimidation it can garner to achieve whatever the goal. It all boils down to one bottom line, the goal of making more money. Making money has limitations too and other expenses to contend with, or as I’ve often heard, “you have to spend money in order to make money and even better if it’s someone else’s money.”

    Political campaign funding seems to be another legal strategy employed by the wealthy as just another part of doing business, business with the expectation of a return on their investment. That is, as long as the donated party’s future loyalties lean in their direction of interests and they have been. The success of this becomes evident with the outrageous campaign funding taking place today. Remember, rarely does anyone give away money, especially the wealthy. I imagine it is a rarity today, if they even exist, to find a wealthy individual that maintains a true sense of honor and fair play. Not sure if this fits or not, but my father once told me, “show me a millionaire, and I’ll show you a thief.” I’m not sure if this has forever tainted my perception of the wealthy, but in my life experience I don’t think too highly of them that look down their nose at others with the belief that because they have money, they are superior to the masses and thus entitled to special treatment. Especially the one’s that engage in ill gotten gain taken at the misery and expense of others. You don’t want to get me started on the people that pray on the innocent and take advantage of those down on their luck. Our Courts seems to perpetuate this myth that rich people are treated special. Because we sure see many a wealthy walk out of court free as a bird, but yet under similar circumstances, the poor man goes to prison or gets put to death. Especially if you happen to be a African American with little or no money. Our judicial system and the obvious double standards and inequality is another issue in desperate need of overhaul and change.

    Now we common folk who struggle to keep the kids fed and out of trouble, keep our job and our sanity, not to mention meet the mortgage payment. We know too well the costs of not making our payment to the bank, or as Woody Guthrie once sang in the early part of the last century, that “Jolly Banker.” The Jolly Banker doesn’t care about you or me, or our families. Neither does he want to hear of our circumstances. The Jolly Banker will simply foreclose on your property and have someone else do the dirty work of evicting you and your family to the outside world, regardless of the elements. All this he will accomplish with no sweat off his brow what-so-ever. Then he will put your home up for sale and attempt to resell it for whatever his needs are, not yours, even if it means a negative loss. The Jolly Banker doesn’t concern himself with the people aspect of things, he will sell of your negative debt to a third party and they will employ all their nasty little pressure tactics and threats to get the money you lost in your real estate investment. If not, they may sell your debt off to someone else and the process continues. They can legally do this for the remainder of your days by keeping your debt record up to date with the credit reporting agencies. You see how far removed the Jolly Banker is from the process? It’s easy money for him, and all these other people that slipped in, it’s business as usual and if anything need be said, it would sound something like this, “business is business,” and most of them sleep just fine.

    However, sometimes the rich resort to all kind of methods when they can’t achieve their goals outright, or through legal means. Truth, honor and justice are traits that simply don’t pay dividends, or at least as-far-as, greed and money are concerned. A good example of this would be the insensitivity big business tends to incorporate in certain business practices or employee related matters.

    Most big business and their hired guns, or to use political correctness, management team tend to be so dollar driven and goal oriented that many have long lost their sense of honor and fair play, as in the old adage goes, “nice guys finish last.” I’ve seen many a corporate manager resort to cruel and even criminal tactics in dealing with others in order to meet certain corporate and/or personal goals. These tactics run the entire gamut, all the way from criminal acts such as murder, right on down the line to, the one I despise with a passion, the (LWL) Little White Lie. This I rank right up there with murder, although I haven’t personally witnessed anyone commit murder in the business arena, I have seen lies or allegations cause the political death of many a man, some of which we often hear in the news later commit suicide, or return to the place of business they were once employed at and commit some heinous act. It seems to be reaching epidemic proportion with no end in site. I don’t see this changing anytime soon, as long as business remains insensitive to people as nothing more then a business tool for making money.

    I guess many tend to only see what they want to see and pay attention to their own needs first, then let the big guy sit in the easy chair and monitor the numbers ensuring the wheels keep a grinding and revenue generating goals are met and that bottom line is achieved. In order for the rich to get richer and poor remain poor. I guess this has been common throughout history.

    However, I can’t and won’t sit idly by and watch an ugly and bleak picture being painted of the future of this nation and the future of our children and not do everything possible to try and change it.

    Every citizen must remain steadfast in protecting their constitutional rights and actively participate in and encourage peaceful changes in the laws in order to make right an ever growing long list of wrong with our homeland, before it’s too late…

    Ken Hall

    Note: Too tired to proof, sending as is. Take it for what ever it’s worth.

  • 14 September 2004, 23:04

    How about ignoring the media? Go ahead & keep your internet connection where you can search for news, & you can catch the game somewhere or a movie if you like, but turn off the tube. I truly wonder what would happen if there was a major boycott of infotainment (i.e., the propaganda tools called the news). It seems we’ve come to think of TV as a necessity, but is it? Is boycott the operative word? Why indeed should we subject our minds to trash?

  • 22 September 2004, 14:12

    lol, the internet is where I spend most of my time these days. Even more ironic, I Just bought one of those big high definition television set put out by Sony and even that won’t keep from catching up on current events while online.

    Best wishes

    KH

• 22 September 2004, 03:43

  If you all think Kerry is in the same game as Bush you are out of your minds. Please do some research on how Kerry single-handedly had BCCI dismantled in the early ’90s. BCCI was an international bank which laundered drug money, dealt with known terrorists, operated as a front for off-book CIA operations, and poured millions of dollars into the oil industry and both Democratic and Republican coffers. No one in the political community wanted BCCI taken down because the scandal was too big and touched too many prominent people, but Kerry did it anyway, much to the chagrin of many of his fellow senators and "blood brothers" in the Skulls. Some interesting points:

  "[Despite harassment from all sides] Kerry refused to back off, and his hearings began to expose the ways in which international terrorism was financed. As Kerry’s subcommittee discovered, BCCI catered to many of the most notorious tyrants and thugs of the late 20th century, including Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, the heads of the Medellin cocaine cartel, and Abu Nidal, the notorious Palestinian terrorist. According to the CIA, it also did business with those who went on to lead al Qaeda.

  "Kerry’s record in the BCCI affair, of course, contrasts sharply with Bush’s. The current president’s career as an oilman was always marked by the kind of insider cronyism that Kerry resisted. Even more startling, as a director of Texas-based Harken Energy, Bush himself did business with BCCI-connected institutions almost at the same time Kerry was fighting the bank. As The Wall Street Journal reported in 1991, there was a "mosaic of BCCI connections surrounding [Harken] since George W. Bush came on board." In 1987, Bush secured a critical $25 million-loan from a bank the Kerry Commission would later reveal to be a BCCI joint venture."

  http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.sirota.html

  Kerry and Bush are not the same. If you are tired of the Cabal vote for someone who has experience exposing corrupt international organizations. There is only one person like that running this year: Kerry.

  • 16 October 2004, 20:48

    BCCI needed to be taken care of because it had the potential of creating a world wide financia melt down. The ellite would have then lost control so they needed to keep a cap on it.

    If Kerry was really the hero you’re making him out to be, wouldn’t he taken steps to get rid of the CIA one of BCCI main players? Unfortunately, he didn’t, he cooled it off and this story also went down the memory hole.

• 28 December 2004, 11:00

  Open a Can Of Pinaplpe Juice

  what has happened to Manuel Noreiga??? lets get an interview .... oh really and why not??