Paul Mitchell of Supremelaw.org responds to RELEASE: Prosecution of George W. Bush for Torture

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• 20 October 2005, 13:09

  He who makes the law can break the law...Bush, Rove, Cheney and Kindofsleezy or any of the members of the fascist cabal and the elites who own them do not have to obey any laws, they are telling the world that with every step they take. A legalistic approach is futile---Stop trying to reform it, one solution, revolution!

  John Browns Daughter

• 20 October 2005, 13:58

  Ummm, the revolution has already started, the neocon revolution.

  Or did you miss the coup?

  America already had it’s revolution, it’s stated in the declaration of independence.

  I know that doesn’t sit well with permanent "revolutionaries", but you can easily join the neocons.

  The Purest Neocon

  Christopher Hitchens, an unreconstructed Bolshevik,
  finds his natural home on the pro-war Right.

  There is no denying Christopher Hitchens’s skill as a public figure: he is seldom at a loss for words, sometimes entertaining, and occasionally even right. But he keeps getting important things wrong because, throughout his political wanderings, there persists a strange loyalty to an obscure bloodthirsty revolutionary and to the ideals of the Bolshevik Revolution. For Hitchens—now honored throughout the neoconservative Right—remains what he has been throughout his public life, a disciple of Leon Trotsky and a talented writer and polemicist—perhaps the most talented polemicist the Bolshevik tradition has produced in the West.

  http://www.amconmag.com/2005/2005_10_10/article3.html

  • 21 October 2005, 04:09

    Perhaps you missed several fundamental history lessons. The neo-cons are the historic progression of the first invasions and occupations in what is called the USA, manifesting their destiny to steal the land and kill the natives now extended globally as foreign policy.

    Where Hitchens, a well known provacatuer, drunk and CIA asset, comes into any discussion of revolution is silly and suspiscious distraction to any discussion of real resistance and revolution.

    Revolution of course indicates revolving to the core, which in this case is liberation and self-determination for all the oppressed. All fronts whose aims are thus are to be supported. One solution, many paths.
    JBD

  • 21 October 2005, 15:14

    The United States: A Country founded on Paganism

    — The American Heritage Dictionary

    Although the common meaning of Paganism seems to imply atheism, a Pagan can worship any other god not common to the god of the Torah, the Bible or the Koran. This also includes those who worshiped gods before the advent of the Judeo-Christian religions. As Mortimer Adler put it: "Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, and Cicero were Western pagans. The Western peoples of pre-Christian antiquity were all pagans in the sense defined. Many remained pagans during the early centuries of the Christian era; and from the 16th century on, the number of pagans living in communities that were predominantly Christian or Muslim has steadily increased." [Adler]

    So if we wish to find the origins of a government based on Paganism, we must establish two things: 1. The lawful documents, symbols and mottoes of the founding government do not contain any mention of Christian, Moslem, or Jewish religions. 2. The documents, symbols and mottoes of the founding government describe Pagan deities and concepts.

    Since the government in question involves the founding documents and symbols of the United States of America, we must satisfy the above two criteria with evidence for Paganism and a lack of evidence for Christianity, Judaism, or Islam.

    This becomes evermore interesting in light of the recent religious-right movement in their attempt to convince citizens that the American government derived from Christian principles. This article shows their error by examining the very documents establishing the United States of America (the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution) and the symbols and mottoes used by the early Americans. In every case, Paganism prevails and Christianity does not. In fact, Paganism reveals itself so predominantly that it should give the reader pause to consider the power of Christian propaganda to deceive and disguise these obvious facts for so long.

    Pre-independence America

    Although the first colonists in America came from Europe (mostly Great Britain, Spain, and Holland), many of them to escape religious persecution (Christian persecution no less!), to establish a place of free Christian worship, these early European-Americans eventually succumbed to the government of Great Britain. The religious-right propagandists like to put emphasis on this period of American history because, indeed, these first European-Americans did live under Christian rule and it makes it seem as if these first colonists established the government of the United States. They did not.

    Of course the first Americans did not practice Christianity at all. Native Indians lived in America thousands of years before the Christians invaded their land. These original Americans got dispossessed, slaughtered, or segregated to the will of intolerant Christians. Today’s religious-right Christians conveniently leave out any mention of the original Americans, Pagan to the very core. Only a very brief period before the formation of the United States could Christians call America their land. The following gives a brief historical summary:

    The Spanish founded the first European colony in North America at St. Augustine, Florida, in 1565. In 1607, the London Company founded the Jamestown colony. In 1620 the Mayflower ship lands at Cape Cod, Massachusetts and its colonists formed the Mayflower Compact (a true Christian document) to establish a form of local government. But these early Christian colonies (the Puritans) became so religiously intolerant that a few of the colonists began to rebel. In 1636 Roger Williams founded Providence and Rhode Island because his fellow Christians banished him from Massachusetts. Why? Because of his "new and dangerous opinions" calling for religious and political freedoms, including separation of church and state. Providence then became a haven for many other colonists fleeing religious intolerance. Just a few years later in 1646, the Massachusetts general court approved a law that made religious heresy punishable by death! In 1692 hysteria grips Salem, Massachusetts as suspects accused of witchcraft got arrested and imprisoned. These religious Puritans accused one-hundred-fifty people of their own citizens and they executed twenty of them. In 1700, Massachusetts passes a law ordering all Roman Catholic priests to leave the colony within three months upon penalty of life imprisonment or execution (New York passes a similar law). In 1702 in Maryland, the Anglican Church gets established as the official church. In 1706 South Carolina also established the Anglican Church as its official church.

    These early European Americans began to feel very suspicious of the growing encroachment of Christianity upon government and personal freedoms. By the mid 1750s, a few of the colonists began to introduce heretical ideas. Benjamin Franklin publishes Poor Richard’s Almanac, and he begins to question Christian principles. More and more Americans become wary of religious and political impositions on their life. In January of 1776, Thomas Paine publishes "Common Sense" in Philadelphia which criticized King George III’s allegiance to Monarchy, and argues for American independence. It becomes an instant best-seller. Paine, a Pagan deist would later write "Age of Reason" where he rejected Judeo-Christian tenets and scriptures.

    Things had come to a head. The most influential American colonists rebelled against Great Britain and their taxes, institutional churches, and desired to form an independent government free from religion and Monarchies. On July 4, 1776, The Declaration of Independence (written by a deist) announced their independence to the world.

    The Declaration of Independence, a Pagan document

    Although strictly not a lawful document, the Declaration of Independence, a pre-government document, revealed the first attempt by the American colonists to establish their own independence from Great Britain. The Declaration also mentions god where the religious-right of modern times have tried to use as evidence for their Christian god. But does the god of the Declaration speak about a Biblical god? No, not at all. Clearly the god mentioned describes a Pagan concept. Lets look at the Declaration’s words directly:

    http://www.nobeliefs.com/pagan.htm

  • 23 October 2005, 22:28

    I guess I’m just not impressed with Paul since he continues to push Tom Flocco’s GARBAGE.
    Flocco relies on two COINTELPRO PAID GOVT. LIARS, Stew Webb and Tom Heneghen.

    This doesn’t say much for Paul’s DISCERNMENT level.

    I think this whole ’indictment’ scam is just a diversion and STALL TACTIC while the globalists prepare to SLAUGHTER U.S. and install MARTIAL LAW!

    Here’s more on Flocco and his PHONY SOURCES!:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/end-time-prophecies/message/15387

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/end-time-prophecies/message/15981

    Email me back at hitech1@bluemarble.net for more on this if you want.