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George Bush won the popular vote- and pigs are flying

by Open-Publishing - Thursday 4 November 2004
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There is no possible way that Dubya won the popular vote- it simply isn’t true. Consider this quote from a poster on democraticunderground.com, "I know dozens of 2000 Bush voters that are voting for Kerry this time, and none that have switched the other way." This pretty much sums it up, 2000 the race was a dead heat, and now after four years of the Bush nightmare we’re supposed to believe he has even more support? I don’t buy it, sure some people are in denial about how bad Bush really is, but most Americans I know realize that our country is headed for disaster, and nobody wants more of this bullshit these lying bastards are sticking us with.

I don’t believe that Bush has anywhere near 50% support from the people of America- not even close. The thing is that it’d so easy to prove. All we need is one person to get this message to a like-minded sports announcer (- ; What if during a basketball game tonight the announcer decides that saving America is more important that his job... let’s say it’s halftime and he just blurts out, "Everyone here that loves George Bush let’s hear a roar" And just a few morons holler to a crowd of pissed off Americans. Then the announcer says, "And everyone that thinks he stole the election, let’s hear you roar" And the crowd goes wild!

Perhaps you can recall the final scene in the movie "A Bug’s Life" where the ants finally realize that they outnumber the evil grasshoppers- all that’s necessary is for a little spark to help the little ants to understand that united they can’t be squashed.

This is what we need- a moment of realization that WE OUTNUMBER THEM. To save our country we need to realize that this whole election is a lie. Sure Bush has rabidly cheering crowds wherever he goes, that’s because they are the same damn people- they are paid goons that travel with him and cheer on cue. Without them, Bush is nothing.

What if it’s really this simple, all we need is a little spark, one brave announcer at a 10,000+ person event? Is there anyone out there, anyone?

If we don’t stand up now, this scene is sure to play out in the near future.

Have you heard the phrase, "America, love it or leave it" ? What’s left to love... the memories? I would love it if we rose up to reclaim our country- otherwise all conscious Americans might as well leave it. Are you really going to sit around and wait until they start the draft and close the borders? Are you going to keep paying taxes for this disgusting war machine?

I think Eminem has it right: "Fuck Bush, Mosh now or die"

http://www.benfrank.net

Forum posts

  • I hope you are one of the pigs who go flying.

    • It’s even worse than you say, Ben. You see the various cocksuckers here casting insults? These are paid goons. They’re all over the internet.

      Our TAX DOLLARS are going to pay these wormy filthy cocksuckers who’ve been "stationed" on the internet since the fall of 2001 — if you remember the government announcement that they’d be posting them. Some of them are hired by the Pentagon.

      Out here in reality, they don’t exist. There is NOWHERE in reality I go where Bush is cheered or even regarded well. Not by old young, middle age. EVERYBODY realizes he’s a cocksucker — some realize he is that literally — except for the really dumb shits, of which there are really very few.

    • Want to check out Bush’s base of voters? Stay home from work someday and watch Jerry Springer.

    • Nearly 60 million people voted for Bush..that’s a lot of stupid people....NOT!!!

    • It´s not America Love it Or Leave it anymore. Try leaving — it´s not that easy. The Confederacy has succeeded in taking over the country, just as they planned to do at the end of the Civil War. It´s the Confederates and their Copperhead northern brethren who run the country now, former slaveholders. Whaddya expect from people whose great-grandparents owned human beings. . .

    • Ask yourself...who is more likely to have a job....who is more likely to make "responsible" decisions in their life...who are the adults. Grow up and stop your snivelling, he’s your president now ,as he has been for the last 4 years. Accept the fact and learn to converse with those Jerry Springer guests. They call the shots , at least for the next four years. If you can’t learn to work with them it should only take about a year to have your Canadian citizenship clear. Don’t forget your took!

    • Ok, where do you get your information? I’m eighteen years old or young, however you want to put it, and I am one who cheers for Bush whenever I want, wherever I want, and I DON’T need to be paid to do it! Again, remind me, who is in denial? These pigs are flying for a reason. You just refuse to accept it.

    • Was the Republican party not once called "the colored people’s Party" by the Democrats? Check it out. . . http://www.newaus.com.au/030502gopblacks.html

    • YOUR ONLY 18,HOPEFULLY AS YOU GET OLDER YOU WILL HAVE THE WISDOM TO ANALYSE THING.GETTING TO THE TRUTH IS A MATTER OF SCRUTINY.NOT TO INSULT YOUTH,MY OWN SON IS 19 AND EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT AND AWARE,BUT HE MAKES MISTAKES,CHANGES HIS VIEWS AS HE GROWS AND IS WILLING TO LOOK AT ALL SIDES AND FIND THE TRUTH.PLEASE DO THIS BEFORE YOU BECOME ANOTHER SHEEP.

    • GET A LIFE BUDDY AND CLEAN UP YOUR LANGUAGE. NOT EVERRYONE LIKES TO TALK TO A FOUL MOUT AND CERTAINLY WOULD NOT LIKE TO DATE ONE.

  • Ben Frank, you are such a sore loser. Why don’t you do us all a favor and move to sweden.

    • I agree. Ah, if only all those who are threatening to move to Canada would just pick
      up and go already! Better for them, better for us.

    • ...and you are in denial. WAKE UP!

    • Not a sore loser but an American citizen who feels there is something very wrong in this country right now. Being an American means you KNOW how it feels to be free. Bush has yet to give anyone the feeling of being free. He is about fear and keeping the populace cowering. The people who voted for him have a deep personality disorder. Much like the beaten wife who believes it everytime her husband says ’Ill never hit you again’ while she sits there with a busted lip and black eye. Anybody who doesnt fess up to the reality that this country is being manipulated by this regime needs to wake up to this truth. It is proven they are about lying about anything and everything. Today, right now the media is programming the populace to embrace this bullshit. It is all a lie, even your nightly news. Why would anybody buy a voting machine without a paper reciept unless there is a need to manipulate the true count. Ask yourself when the last time was you bought anything with a credit or debit card that you didnt get a receipt. Next time you make your deposit at your atm watch what happens, the final action is you get a receipt. The irony is the same people who make those ready tellers that spit that receipt out are the some people who make the voting machines. . . that dont give you that receipt. What brilliant mind invented that paperless trail and for what purpose? If you think this is cool in the land of the free, home of the brave, you are a complete idiot and a gullible fool.

    • Hmmm!America think about that BIN LAdin tape just for a moment! lookAt the fraud of that ! Thespeech itself very articulate and precise wording inamerican words not like other tapes.You THOUGHT that those tapes were real too,(smart people saw through them). YOU were duped again and again and you still be lieve in all the lies they tellyou.THIS Video came again in time by your morale guy named bush to see how you would react to ahorrible terrr-isssste! To vote for KERRY not bush his friend or you will suffer the consequences of it ? KIDS play that GAme ,we are adults. LOOK at the childish GAMES this government plays and all their gangsters to steal your money , your votes, your young children and more to sacrifice in jan.2005. even retired men and women ETC. oil !oil!OIl 18to30< are dieing and alot more togo! you should be angry . YOU are S ure to die from a plot of terroism to keep you in contrl. your afraid but so are your sons and daugthers you send away proudly for your flag and country!WARS make the rich RICHER . their kids are not included to help save their country !they will see Xmas eat turkey open presents . NOT YOURS. HOW MANY EMPTY CHAIRS AND BROKEN HEARTS!!!!!????? GET your country back AND CHILDREN. If someone came in your home and wanted to steal them away YOU WOULD’nt fight for them. YOU ONLY GET MAD IF YOUR NEW CAR ,OR MATERIAL things ARE STOLEN.? GOD HELP US ALL FOR OUR WEAKNESS. DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT THEY DO TO YOU> THIS GOVERNMENT IS STEALING EVEN IN YOUR HOMES. MILLIONS VOTED FOR BUSH WHAT ARE THE OTHER MILLION`s SSSSSSS going to do! WHO KNOW FRAUD AND DECEIT WHEN THEY SEEIT> THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. SOME PLEASE GO BACK TOYOUR SECURITY BLANKET! Soon you will have to come out AND FIGHT AND YELL.

    • I love that statement that tells those that are unhappy with the way things went or have a difference of opinion to leave the country! I may not like your point of view but it makes me rethink mine and question if I am believing in the right things. When I am done looking at your point of view and then mine, I will either change it or I will be stronger in what I believe! That is what this nation should be about. Go to Sweden??? Please! We want to fight for what is right and what is ours too. We are here, like it or love it! If someone needs to leave (according to you) then you should consider that option for yourself. I was born here. I am a native! I do not have to leave, nor will I. Deal with it.

      Checks and balances baby! The original American way!

    • I can’t bear the suffering and strain that you must be feeling to live among the foolish and gullible majority of us who have this horrible personality disorder. I can’t feel your pain but I think you should exercise your free right to go to a travel agent or an internet travel site and buy a plane ticket to anywhere you want to go where they don’t suffer any sort of delusion. I believe France and Germany need more people. They have free health care and six weeks of vacation. Check it out, please, before it’s too late for you.

    • I will pray for you, dear ranter.

    • I’m a real American too, I even have some native american in my family tree so technically I come from people who were here first. If you look at the original article it was good ol’ Ben who brought up the thought of leaving. I just told him he was free to do so and I suggested Sweden since I lot of socialists seem to like that country.

    • Your ignorance hurts me, but can’t possibly hurt you, as your mind is obviously numbed by something.
      Probably your fake food American ’Diet’.
      , or perhaps the 13 prescribed medications you’re on. Or maybe you’re just another dumb public schooled, TV-propagandized moron like most of the rest of the idiots living in this country. I feel sorry for your family. Make no mistake, I’m talking to the idiot who posted the 11/6 reply to the original message. I pretty much agree with the original message.

    • AND I SUPPOSE YOU WERE A CHEROKEE PRINCESS IN A PAST LIFE.

  • The reality is that Democrats haven’t had a popular vote majority (meaning 50%) since Lyndon B Johnson. Kerry 48%, Gore 48%, Clinton 49% and 43%. "We outnumber them?" It’s really time to examine the composition of "we." Traditional Democratic bases, Roman Catholics (including a good percentage of the Hispanic vote), gay-rights activists, pro-choice, and blue collar middle Americans have views that are often in opposition. Republicans have a simple message that can be articulated in a few sentences. Democrats cherry pick the issues, and increasingly alienate their blue collar rust belt base that has existed since Roosevelt’s New Deal, driving them to the Republicans, in favor of liberal candidates who do no know how to run campaigns out of Massachusetts. Is it any wonder that the last three Democratic Presidents have been from the South? Four if you count Gore. Reagan won on the strength of Southern Democrats. Candidates like Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry are managing to change them into Republicans.

    • I think George Bush did win, based on "morality" and "values" issues.
      Let’s see, pathological lying about intelligence gathered and recieved; illegal pre-emptive war against a non-threatening country, killing 100,000 or so people, half of them women and children, to take over their natural resources -OIL- in the name of giving them democracy/fighting terrorism; blatant favoritism -corruption- for obscene financial gain -Halliburton; breaking of the Geneva Conventions, torturing and sexually abusing prisioners, and incarcerating people for years with no charges or access to lawyers, ummm, just to start. Those are America’s values and morals now and that is why Bush was voted in again. They go to church and are against abortion and the depravity of gay marriages, so they are Moral. And OF COURSE, they are against Terrorism. Just not their own. That is what America is now about.

    • If you keep believing the democratic lies you will keep losing. What is going on around me tells me that the black vote for republican’s doubled over the last election. And i live in a racially balanced neighborhood. charlie

    • You lost because Kerry wasnt not the peoples choice

      TF

    • um.. hey dodo.... Al Gore DID win he popular vote in 2000 , perhaps you need to recheck your facts before posting .. An yes.. lots I know cant possibly figure out how Bush could have won.. unless you consider Diebold.........

    • Amen to that... If indeed the most corrupt administration honestly won this election more power to them, but I think the fix was in. I know few people who support Bush and his lies. And if after killing 100k Irqis and 1,00 of our own, with more to come, poeple voted for more of the same, well then the America I love is gone. May God help us and not the God who talks to Bush, but the God who is LOVE (which is sorely lacking with Bush and his hate/war-mongers).

    • You guys need to get "real". Dubya won fair and square. EVERYONE believed that Saddam had WMD. Even Kerry said so. the 100,000 people killed is way overblown figure. Let see Saddam killed over a MILLION people in his reign of terror which the left of course overlooks. The Geneva Convention does not apply to TERRORISTS! And Dubya did this all for OIL? Last time I checked Kerry was worth a whole lot more $$$$ than Bush.

      The Left makes me laugh. Ya just don’t get it....and I pray ya never will.

      Please nominate Queen Hillary in 2008...I could use some more laughs by then!!

    • You are the dodo. Gore did win the popular vote in 2000..but it was not 50% or better.
      Bush won the electoral vote (that’s why he is president smartboy). Check your FACTS next time.

    • Blacks, particularly working class blacks, voting for Bush - that’s what we Brits call colloquially: "Turkeys voting for Christmas". Maybe in America that’d be Thanksgiving. You won’t have much to give thanks about.

    • Kerry has more money than Bush?are you kidding.the Bush family has (interest around the world),kerry’s wife is a billionare.old man Bush ran the Carlyle group,moneys’s one thing insidous power is another.Democrats played checkers Rove plays chess.voter fraud?oh yeah.I find it pretty hard to believe Bush got more votes this election than last but i cant prove it,and i cant swallow these sour grapes.If im wrong oh well,if the red states are wrong oh boy!it seems in a red state people see a perfect world in blue states human beings see the real world.we live on Earth,and while it may appear we in the blue are out numbered by the red,that is only in the confines of our nation,the rest of the world agrees with US in the blue so in all reality its not even close.You in the red states may say "dont mean sheeit",but you cant fight the future,and as the internet proves its a global villiage we ALL LIVE IN.In closing i would like to say freedom is not given its achieved and we aint achieved a tenth of our potential.

    • <If> >

      in the year that bush told the naacp to go to hell? if you believe that, i have a bridge to sell you.

    • You said it perfectly...SOUR GRAPES.

      As the rock band the Eagles once said in a song awhile back.... GET OVER IT!!!!!

    • Quit watching Farenheit 9/11. It’s garbage. The facts have been torned to shreds.

      I wondered how many DVDs that clown will sell now? LOL!

      Oh BTW George SOROS had a bigger interest in the Caryle Group. Does that make him EVIL too?

    • Yes, Diebold, if you believe that, then I suppose it’s ok for me to believe that Clinton had Vince Foster Killed, oh and Ron Brown, and yes he must have been in with Tyco and the big Cocaine importation project, and yes Hillary just happened to misplace the Rose Law Firm paperwork, and Clinton did rape all the women that came forward and on and on....... You look just as stupid believing the Diebold crap. Do you even realize that there were both democratic and republican canvessing boards in all the Ohio counties, who didn’t notice anything. Not to mention do you know how many people would have been involver with it? None of them are talking.

      Bush won because you all were negative and hateful and angry. Kerry offered nothing positive, Kerry had no record of any kind of leadership, he was hopelessly condescending, he likely would have left the troops high and dry in Iraq, much like he did his "brothers" in Vietnam. He had no incentive for Iraq to succeed, he was going to have Bush be a skapegoat. Our family members and friends are risking their lives, only to be told over and over that their mission is wrong. That is why we chose not to elect Kerry President.

  • To all good people of countries other than the US-

    WE are now officially a rogue nation- please don’t blame the citizens of the US as we have been taken over by Nazis. Trust us, we are more frightened than you.

    There is no possible way that Bush is the most popular president ever. There is no way that he won this election. It is a lie, supported by fraudulent elections and corrupt government officials. There is no popular support for Bush, only Bush freepers on the net paid for by homeland security to convince other nations and naive US citizens that someone must like that madman.

    Our media is corrupt. Our government is corrupt. WE need some help y’all.

    • in response to ’ To all good people of countries other than the US-
      WE are now officially a rogue nation- please don’t blame the citizens of the US as we have been taken over by Nazis. Trust us, we are more frightened than you.’

      This is SO TRUE. I sit with my mother and father and 3 brothers and talk about this all the time; everyone in my mother’s office agrees with her. Everyone that I work with agrees with me. We are a nation taken over by people who do not care about us. We did NOT vote Bush into office, not once; definitely not twice.

      The best thing to do right now would be for a huge number of people to flood the media with phone calls and emails and letters demanding a transparent recount. Sitting home wondering ’are there really that many ignorant gay-hating war-loving idiots in my country’ is not going to solve anything.

      Rise up; don’t stand for this. Don’t think that there weren’t people in Germany less than 100 years ago who wondered ’are there really that many ignorant jew-hating war-loving idiots in my country’? One was Einstein. I’m sure you can name more.

    • It’s a dark day in America for sure as we’ve officially seen the end of democracy and the welcoming of Neo-Fascism in the USA. People would do well to read up on Mussolini’s rise to power and also his views on the role of government. Damn, when will people wake up and see that they are signing the contract? All three branches are controlled by one party and more wars are sure to come. Whatever restraint that was there before is sure to be gone now that Chaney & Co. have the blessing of the American people. Will we meet the fate of Italy, Japan, and Germany in the 1940s when other nations finally decide they’ve had enough? Sadly, I think most Americans don’t see where this is headed and will not until it’s too late. It’s truly a tragic day...the America we once knew is now gone.

    • I cannot believe my own eyes: there "they" are, or some of "them" at least, the ones who truly believe that GW Bush is a "popular" fella. After looking at other intelligent, well laid-out web sites I came here to read this story and I couldn’t agree more: this election is the product of morons and they even had assistance from Diabold. Someone, an obvious Republican, resorted to name-calling I see, and called the author of this article a "sore loser"; I beg to differ. Not a sore loser but more like a person with an IQ of over 101 - anyone with an IQ of >85 supports Bush as is well-known. A sore loser indeed! What, because the author dosen’t condone perpetual war, endless loss of jobs due to outsourcing, our government lying to us even about their past lies, and other menevolant things there is simply no room to convey in a forum?

      And to all the stupid, moronic Bushwhackers out there who still believe that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the rest of the Bush minions are safe and/or out of harms way now, think again. After the CIA, FBI, and even foreign law enforcement agencies are finished with, especially Cheney, we will be shopping for a REAL president before you know it - the Neocoms will be packing fudge in prison, thank God. So horrendous are the charges against Cheney (our very own personal James Bond bad-guy) that he will be lucky to see the light of day once he is convicted. nor will he or his other Church of Satan worshipers be able to kill one more child on foreign soil.

      Tell me, how intelligent does one have to be to understand what a "lie" is? A lie as in, "...weapons of mass destruction and we know exactly where they are" (al la Rumsfeld, 2003)? If that isn’t bad enough, then what about the Necon’s later statements? Where they have all but confessed their crimes on this and many other, well-documented issues? Sorry, but it takes a true moron to condone this policy of lying - not a "sore loser"

      America is now officially in the proverbial toilet and this recent election just "flushed" us and the rest of the free world down with it. By voting for the likes of Bush, a true Satanic Lapdog if there ever was one, you effectively and vicareously condone endless war on innocent people, outsourcing of jobs to third-world countries, abject poverty, an open-border policy that actually rewards criminal behavior, and a host of other nasty and corrupt evils that emminate from the mind of the Neocon’s. After the terrible events of 9/11 Bush firmly stated that, "they hate us for our freedoms" - morons believed that. Morons that have no idea what Israel is doing in their own occupied territory against yet another "unseen" enemy: many of these "unseen" being school children and women. Furthermore, most other countries LOVED America’s freedom, they didn’t hate it but rather emulated it!! That was PRE-9/11 however, when the world felt for us, NOT POST 9/11 when we started destroying all-things-living...long as these things have oil, that is.

      America has never been in more danger than it is right now. Before this election we at least had ignorance on our side but now all we have done will come back to haunt us, for decades. Our continued, blind support of Israel and our enormous, yearly "handout" to them is a huge mistake but some people just do NOT get it; how can this be? Israel is the third-largest weapons exporter and the second-largest terrorist orgaization on the planet after America so why do we not only support their crimes but actually applaude them and reward them with over $25 million a year (a rough estimate, not including military hardware and such)?

      Final word on this: we drop Israel, we live in relative safety. Neither Bush NOR Kerry have or had the balls to do this so we are ALL hosed now no matter WHO you voted for! It gives me pause to see that it is morons who are still running this once-great country instead of people with a vision and intelligence. Until we take this country back we are all guilty of war crimes, crimes against humanity, and ignorance.

      Wayne

    • INDEED! WE NEED HELP!

  • I couldn’t agree more.
    I am somewhere between shock and awe in trying to believe that Bush could have won a popular vote. I live in the midwest; in the middle of the so-called ’bible belt’. I am anti-war, and would prefer a radically right-wing jesus nut were not running our country. Where can I voice my opinion? On a blog. I don’t believe anyone’s votes were counted; I believe Bush has full control of the election process, and we will never know what truly happened.
    For now, Canada does look damn good...and I am definitely not an America Hater. But I refuse to send my tax dollars to kill innocent people for one ignorant short-sighted dark-age-living motherfucker to profit.
    EOM

  • I can hardly beleive that any of you really think that the election was somehow rigged. The election process is managed at a state level for this very reason. If you think that your government is that corrupt then you are more than welcome to go to Canada. Hey, they have free health care which causes people to wait 6-13 weeks to see there doctor and another 12-22 weeks to see a specialist. And you can also enjoy a 9.9% unemployment rate which is by the way twice our unemployment rate. We will avoid the discussion about how much more taxes they pay. The truth of the matter is that no matter how bad you try to paint the picture of our current situation it is better than anywhere else in the world. We are a safer America because of George Bush and our coalition forces. If you don’t agree with the sacrifices that we have to make in order to have the freedom and liberty we have then once again you are welcome to leave. Let me ask this question. Where will you go?

    • The obvious question is why don’t we have politicians that want to create a transparent election process?

      "I can hardly beleive that any of you really think that the election was somehow rigged."

      Why? Our ’president’ is a pathological liar- everything he says is a blatant lie.

      * If he had ’any inkling’ of an attack before 911 he would have done everything in his power.... us he had a f*cking memo titled ’Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the US" ... so what does ’noble’ bush do- he stays on vacation!
      *Then when it hit, Bush said he thought it was a terrible accident and continued about his day, where he sat in that classroom for 7+ minutes after he learned of the 2nd attack.
      * He did NOTHING, yet he claims to be making us safer?
      * He keeps saying the world is better off after lying to start this inhumane war. 100,000 dead for a lie and Bush claims to be Christian. So did Hitler.
      * The ’patriot’ act shredded the bill of rights and began a new era of gov’t spying (not very patriotic)
      * The ’clear skies’ initiative dismantled the clean air act and allows 500% more mercury. another lie
      * The ’Help America Vote Act’ provided million of dollars for e-voting machines from a company whose CEO wrote, "we are committed to delivering Ohio’s electoral votes to the President." This company makes ATM machines- all of which provide a paper receipt- yet for some reason the new voting machines don’t have this same technology. WHY ????

      Bush and company learned their tactics from Hitler:

      The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, because the vast masses of a nation are, in the depths of their hearts, more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad.

      The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them more easy victims of a big lie than a small one, because they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell big ones. Such a form of lying would never enter their heads. They would never credit others with the possibility of such great impudence as the complete reversal of facts.

       Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf

      anyone notice the number of freepers on bellaciao has increased significantly in the past few weeks? If you love Bush, why would you read the news on this site... unless you’re a paid disinformationalist.

      we’re not buying it morons, but thanks for the laughs anyway

    • Why is it whenever anyone disagrees with this president and his policies we are invited by some asshole to leave the country? It is THIS mentality that we object to...you are either for us or against us. Black or white. Is this what our ’freedoms’ are all about? suppressing our opinions lest we fear being called un-patriotic?

      "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, it is morally treasonable to the American Public." - President Theodore Roosevelt

    • I am Canadian and you are full of baloney. You do not have to wait that long. I got better treatment there then I do here! Your problem is you listen to talk radio too much and think you therefore must have all the facts. Do a little honest research yourself and think for yourself.

      I have a lot of stories about the health care here. How about that doctors here are the #3 cause of death in this country? Don’t believe me? Do some research for once instead of listening to Rush or Hannity.

    • Of course the election was rigged. So too are a great many, if not most, of the pro-Bush postings. These particular flying pigs were hired in a government program in the fall of 2001. They’ve been infesting the internet ever since.

      That’s where your tax dollars are going. To propaganda and liars.

    • George W. Bush is the greatest leader, the free world has ever known! (END OF STATEMENT, nuff said.)

    • You can hardly believe. . . you are a nieve, fool. wake up man. Stop watching foxnews

    • I am Canadian. Though there is no perfect government, even here, I must point out to the person who claims Canada is so bad... that first of all, we do NOT have free health care. If you are unemployed and can prove your income is too low to pay even the tiered rate of coverage, you can apply for temporary free coverage. I agree that is a better system than most. I live in the 2nd wealthiest province and am earning barely over min. wage - and still have to pay a monthly amount for health care. If I don’t pay, I don’t get coverage. Simple as that. There is generally no wait to see a Dr. here. I can take my provincial health care coverage card to any walk in clinic if I can’t get into the hospital or family Dr. And I can get the same care there, at no extra charge.

      And yes, we have a ’not so pretty’ unemployment rate. But nowhere near the rate of jobs lost due to Dubya’s first term in Ohio alone. I must pose the statement that if you think your elections cannot be rigged, you must inject some espresso directly into your brain and wake up. Check your public records. I have a research pass for the Library of Congress in DC and I have read the records on no less than 6 rigged elections in your history.

      There are parts of the US that I love and I have some great friends and relatives there. We will never get anywhere blaming each other. It’s time to spread the word that people must at least try to regain control of the government ’THEY EMPLOY’.

      I also add that the facts have been shown regarding the president’s original reason for the Iraq invasion.... FALSE.... A COMPLETE LIE.... No WMD anywhere. That’s ok, we’ll just change our reason and keep bombing civilians --- those same civilians that were supposed to be dancing in the streets and throwing rose petals at the feet of the Coalition of the willing. Oh yeah, I forgot that Iceland and Romania have such HUGE armies... ok, now I’m ranting. I’ll end here.

    • These is for the MORON who is asking everyone to leave America! You DUMB IDIOT! Open your EYES - I wonder if you have one. I mean not the eyes through which you see! Eyes which allows you to think and see.

    • Exactly how are we safer? Seems to me we just saw a healthy and happy Osama telling us that not only did he do 9/11 but theres gonna be more. When was the last time anyone saw Saddam make such a claim or threat. In what way are we safer?..Oh I forgot I’ll be able to drive my car a little bit longer now that we have Iraqi oil... So I’ll just drive my gas guzzler to McDonalds feeling all warm and fuzzy knowing we have the wrong man in prison. Feeling secure knowing my freedom lovin government has the larger caliber gun with wich to pick on crippled nations that might have some resource WE want. And forget about ’ol Bin Laden....He cant get to me..that sorta thing only happens in weird places like New York.

      Grow up people. No war in history has been about moral authority or even right or wrong. Wars are fought for resources. Even Osama knows this. He knows theres no percentage in catching him. Haliburton wont make a dime.

    • >>where will you go?<<

      Canada. Help make this possible. www.resisters.ca

    • I am Canadian and the republican rhetoric of Medicare is pure garbage. I can get to see a Doctor anytime by scheeduling an appointment and if it is an emergency immediate quality care fro everyone PERIOD. It is a pity that people who call themselves moral can support the killing of over 100,000 Iraqi civivlians, over 1200 US troops, the illegal invasion of a sovereign nation, the loss of 100’s of thousand of jobs, the widening gap between rich and poor, the upcoming draft (lets see how many smile and send their sons and daughters off to war with a smile) illegally tendered contracts, corporate executives freindly to republicans get off scott free with stealing, the overturn of a woman’s right to chose etc etc etc and these people are moral, I think not! The only morality of the Moral Majority is trying to impose their beliefs on others. I always thought the U.S. had a very distinct seperation of church and state. lets hope it stays that way.

    • True There is no place in the world like the good OL USA. Rigged election? I’ll leave that to the historians to decide. ARE We are safer under Bush. I DONT THINK SO. Remember 9/11. IT happened while while he was in charge!! He ignored a memo titled "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE US" and was on vacation the first 7 months of 2001. Now we invaded IRAQ and, to me, it seems we are creating more enimies by the min..

    • W did win the popular vote. Accept it. No one stole anything. Nothing was rigged. Just because you live in your own little world and have surronded yourself with like minded people does not have any bearing on me or the rest of the country. The fact is we are safer now than before 9/11 - and a majority of the people realize that. We have to take the fight to the enemy otherwise you would be seeing the enemy killing our people here at home.

      I hear the Great White North calling ... take a coat...

    • I have observed during the pre-election time period that poll results on the CNN website generally leaned to the opposite end (or did not approve) of the Bush administration’s performance on a variety of issues. During the election and during the exit polling, all polls resulted in Kerry’s favor. Even today when I looked at the poll results for the question "Are you optimistic about President Bush’s second term in office?" and "Will Bush unify the country?"
      Both (current) results were very unfavorable for Bush.
      So what happened? How did Bush get so much apparent support? How does all of this ’un-approval’ equate to a historical amount of support for Bush?
      Something does not add up. Most of the people I talk to did not vote for Bush, but yet he won my county and state.
      I am not talking conspiracy but I do feel someone should investigate this phenomena. A lot of people are confused.
      A lot of people (MAJORITY) that have taken these polls would have not voted for Bush.... and there a lot of other ’polls’ I can refference. Polls are not reliable, I agree, but the evidence cannot be ignored.
      The numbers just don’t add up........
      Election rigging..........don’t count it out with these crooks in charge!

    • My wife and I *always* have to wait 6-13 weeks to see our doctor, and another 12-22 weeks to see a specialist. The difference between the good ol’ USofA and Canada seems to be that we are paying 2-4 times as much per capita for the same sorts of service. The unemployment rate in my family just rose to 50%, as I was laid off three weeks ago. Health insurance is, as of now, 30% of my wife’s professional income. I’ll probably get into some contracting, and try to remain under the patent radar: I am a software developer, and the present structure of the U.S. patent system almost guarantees that most of my work places me in violation of some corporate-owned software patent.

      And about taxes: I am *waay* fed up with paying U.S. tax rates to finance the screwing we’re getting from the administration, Congress (and sometime in the next 4 years) Supreme court in thrall to to large corporate interests. In case you decide research these issues honestly, look at state and local taxes, combined with significantly higher prices for inelastic costs (housing, health, fuel) in concert with Federal rates. The sum of federal taxes, state taxes, local taxes and the aforementioned inelastic costs of living is simultaneously greater and more regressive after the recent federal "tax cuts".

    • America is safer? I dont know about you, but I havent felt safe since 9-11 . To this day Bin Laden is still free and claims they are just steps away from attacking us again. You feel safe? Iraq is ripe with terrorist activity and some day that is gonna show up here in our streets. You will be locked in your home and scared to go out anywhere. Safe? Not me....Im scared shitless.

    • What a dumbass.

    • TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND...OPEN YOUR EYES

    • well,besides Canada,there’s the European Union. All American refugees are more than welcome over here. There’s 450 million of us , and you dont see us scrambling to move to the States - no, we like our high taxes, cos that’s why we have decent education for all, a reasonably cheap , and sometimes completely free health system (no greedy medical insurance companies) , and lack of a lawyer class sueing everything, and absolutely no religious nutcases in charge. In fact, we’re mostly atheistic and free-thinking. The Netherlands is a good place to move to -extremely free thinking and liberated, and very very civilised. Ireland has nice beer, friendly people, and a booming economy. And France has one of the best education and health systems in the world.

    • Oh, the Canadians only have to wait 6-12 weeks to see a physician? Well, I get my "free" care at the US Veterans Administration hospital in Omaha, NE. It takes 3-6 MONTHS to get in to see a regular doctor, and 6-9 months to see a specialist AFTER you see the regular doctor. Sounds like all Canadians get better health care than the Veterans of this good ol’ USA that you espouse to be so grand. Veterans are treated like crap in this country.

    • Sorry to burst your bubble but our umemployment is more like 10-12 percent and the homeless are in record numbers. Put your head back in the sand if you believe all the lies you see on tv. Let those of us who are awake confirm the election was stolen. Bush is a war criminal and should be on trial for the tortures of Abu Graib and the mass murder of over 100,000 Iraqis for no reason. Iraq was not a threat to the US and the US is not going into any other nations without hellacious protests, so he not only better chill, he better not attack any one else for his endless lies. We are at the boiling point and it might not take much more to start a fire that cant be stopped by the pigs or anyone else.

    • Why don’t you leave?

    • I live in San Diego and it took me 4 months to schedule an appointment with my doctor. And how is America safer now? I don’t get it. If another government dropped a bomb on your parent’s house, how would you react to that? Oh? Now, time’s that by 100,000(the est. amount of civilian deaths in Iraq to date). That’s how many "terrorists" we are breeding in Iraq. We even "accidently" dropped a bomb on a freakin wedding in Iraq. Now, that’s f’d up. America as I remember it is gone. It’s gonna be a one-party system from here on out. I guess it’s time to pack my bags.

    • I’m in Canada now, it’s great!

    • Canada. Immediate health care is taken for granted, 7 week waits to see a doctor is bullshit, to see a specialist is normally 30 days, if life threatening it is immediate. If you had visited this country and knew it for what it really is, you would know that this is the best part of North America, and yes caring for folks does cost money, but hey, the USA with 45 million folks with no health care and 3 million new illegal immigrants each year sucking up the resources of those that pay for it is just great right? If you believe the claptrap posted about Canada, then may I interest you in a half share in the Brooklyn bridge LOL.
      Honestly from our perspective up here in snowland is that the USA is screwed and that with Bush’s win things will go from bad to horrible.

    • You can’t believe the elections were rigged because it is managed by the state? Have you ever heard the phrase "letting the fox guard the henhouse?" Well, welcome to the United Henhouses of America!

    • All you cry babies need to get over it, Kerry lost...............................

    • Response to

      "I can hardly beleive that any of you really think that the election was somehow rigged. The election process is managed at a state level for this very reason. If you think that your government is that corrupt then you are more than welcome to go to Canada. Hey, they have free health care which causes people to wait 6-13 weeks to see there doctor and another 12-22 weeks to see a specialist. And you can also enjoy a 9.9% unemployment rate which is by the way twice our unemployment rate. We will avoid the discussion about how much more taxes they pay. The truth of the matter is that no (...) "

      Sadly, you are obviously one of the fallow minds that can be manuipulated into believing any type of propaganda. Please stop giving away MY freedom so YOU can feel better about yourself. You conveniently overlook the fact that almost 50% of Americans can’t go to the doctor AT ALL because they have NO health care. I don’t think they would mind a wait.
      Bush and his cronies are shipping our jobs and our children to other countries, never to return, and the freedom that you so glowingly refer to is almost gone, Genius, courtesy of the Bush war machine which will continue to undertake the mission to remove your freedom and you are weak minded enough to let them because they disguised it as "Homeland Security". And ask the people of Ohio or Pennsylvania if they think our unemployment is only 5%. You Sheeple take your herd and get out of our country. I’m pretty sure the Founding Fathers would be escorting YOU to Canada....at the point of a bayonet. Heil King George (or else)

    • In response to "they have free health care which causes people to wait 6-13 weeks to see there doctor"

      This is just simply not true. I live in Alberta, and I could drive to my doctor, a walkin clinic, or a hospital and be seen by a doctor within one hour. Your statements do nothing but further vindicate the ignorance and narrow-mindedness of a vast majority of american people.

    • I’ll be the first to start the spark.

      This is beyond a democrat/liberal vs rebublican/conservative issue. This is a rich vs poor, black vs white issue. When will us Americans stand up and take to the streets and demand that liberty be returned to this country? Our troops are being told that they are in the middle east to make sure that Iraqi’s have a fair election.... then show the common courtesy and respect and DEMAND A FAIR ELECTION AT HOME. If there is a report of even ONE vote not counted, this is not a democracy and its a disgrace to what our troops are fighting for now, and what our uncles, fathers, grandparents, and great parents fought for in Vietnam, Korea, WWII, and WWI. Show the courage our troops are showing right now and fight against this injustice. Just rise up and start it!!!!

      What will it take? When will stom the white house? When will the american’s who didnt vote for Zionist agendas take back this country by force?

      Give me a leader, and I’ll follow you to the death.

    • Per the Canadian Ministry of Labour statistics on their web site, as of this month, show unemployment is at 5.8 percent. Roughly equal with our own.They also don’t purge the stats of people still unemployed after their benefits run out. BTW, how long does it take to book an appointment (non-emergency) with your own primary casre physician? I know that it can also be a matter of weeks, I recently had a 10 week wait to see a dematologist who has since dropped out of blue cross because she is now the local botox fairy. Health care is the largest sector of our economy and it is currently broken by profit and pharmaceutical nostrum-pushing.

    • Today, I’m ashamed of being an American.

    • So you can hardly believe that the republicans who lobbied for touch screen voting without paper trails for verification would possibly steal the election ? if you can’t even look at the possibility , then i have some enron stock just for you - cheap. All the stats u just said about my country - canada - where did these come from? most are simply false.

      And you say that the U.S. is still the best place to live borders on the delusional. Is it because half the country hates the other half ,your predijudices against every minority, your gun toting ways, your imperialism, or your fascism ? Guess what, the whole world is now watching you and doesn’t like what’s going on one little bit. You guys sell everybody weapons (like Saddam in the 80’s) and then act surprised when they use them back on you. Want to know why Bush was so sure that Saddam had WMD’s? It’s because he had the receipt for them (from George Sr. , remember him).

      If you think you are safer now with Bush back in, think again. There are millions MORE people lining up to take the places of any killed "terrorists" out there every day. Every time one is dead , two or more will replace them. People are fed up with being bombed ("liberated" -according to your govenment - and the citizens that parrot them) by your "great" country. Remember what happened to the Russians when they tried the same thing you are today , (except it was Afghanistan) and look what happened to them. The terrorists are bleeding your country to death economically. The U.S. dollar is worth just over 75% of the Euro today . Just four years ago before butthead ’s brother stole the election for him the U.S. dollar was worth 103% of the Euro. Imagine what it will be in 2008 . Also there is now a worldwide boycott on american products and I can’t says that I blame them one little bit.

      I have 2 simple solutions for your country - STOP BOMBING EVERYBODY and - STOP SELLING EVERYBODY WEAPONS. Maybe, just maybe this would start to heal this wound that is so huge but I doubt it.

      You ask the previous messager where will they go. Let me just say on behalf of Canada - come on down - there is lots of room for people who work together, are open to new ideas, progressive thinking, progressive rights for ALL(not just the wealthy), and generally open minded ,tolerant, and patient . But if you’re an imperialist who loves religion , wars on drugs and "terrorists", and lassiz faire capitalism with no oversight (another enron anyone), hates reading and understanding how things really work in this complicated world of ours ,and you think like or are like Bush , then you should probably stay right there (even though we would still welcome you because we understand that other people have different views from ours and we respect every opinion)

      I would also like to say that I wouldn’t let Bush be president of a hot dog stand , let alone president of the most powerful nation that has probably ever existed (which as I type this in is changing from all your bleeding in !raq presently and all the bleeding to come in the very near future - when i say bleeding - i mean economically).

      What is wrong with you people? I had always looked up to America until Bush took over and forced me to do some serious reading on your country and its foreign policy for the last 50 years. Your CIA has taken over the Government

      Be afraid , be very afraid. Payback is coming.

    • How are we safer? Can you please provide some data? Saying ’because we haven’t had an attack since 9/11 is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy of logic. And thanks for welcoming us all to go to Canada. I for one don’t care what a faith-based illogical true believer thinks of me. And, frankly, I don’t see that the original writer actually ASKED you for your ’blessing.’ We have a 9.9 percent unemployment rate. Hate to inform you of this, but if you count the unemployed who have fallen off the roster due to time limits, it’s around 10 percent.

      To the original poster — it’s people like the one above who contribute to the problem. With no handle on the facts and no data to offer, they’re still ever so certain their ’beliefs’ are correct. Whereas the rest of us maintain healthy skepticism, both in our system and in our own questions. We ask them, but we allow for, and embrace, the potential that we could be proven wrong. On this issue, for the sake of our electorate and ALL OF OUR democracy, these questions need to be addressed. We need paper trails or we need to revert to punch cards. We need to get partisans out of the election boards. I cannot fathom how people who crow about their "patriotism" are comfortable with evoting machines that can’t be verified. How does that benefit anyone?

    • I appreciate your thoughtful response. There are a few questions that bother me though, if I may? How could Diebold e-voting be utilized without considering the conflict of interest since Diebold is a major contributor to the Republican Party and headquartered in Ohio, one of the most significant swing states for the election? Also, another conflict of interest, how could the head of elections in Ohio, a known republican Bush supporter, allow these machines to be used without a "paper trail" or any other state for that matter?

      Please explain the exit polls discrepancies in Ohio submitted by CNN based on AP results? I understand the exit polls have a history of extremely low rate of error, something like 0.01% ?

      Going back to the e-voting, why is it that in every single instance of e-voting problems of a wrong vote, it was always sided against Kerry and not Bush? Isn’t it rather strange that people who voted for bush DID NOT ONCE have Kerry light up on their screen as some sort of computer glitch? However, thousands of Kerry voters had their votes light up Bush, and in some cases, the whole ballot would light up "republican" all the way down the column? It is quite possible that the code written in Diebold software could have easily altered votes. How could it be that this software and other e-voting software was not allowed to be scrutinized by appropriate committees? How on earth could we have allowed electronic voting to take place that did not allow for some cross checking for security purposes and to reassure the public that voting in this method was safe and secure? I for one would like to see this as illegal within the Unite States. I for one would like to see a true nonpartisian investigation into this election by multiple methods simultaneously, i.e., the media, government committees, watch dog organizations.

      If you believe so much in this country’s constitution, you should consider it your patriotic duty to protect this country from losing its fundemental freedoms; the security of our votes, having a fair and balanced power in all three branches of government, the legislative, the judicial and executive branch; ensure our civil liberties are never compromised, having an open and transparent government that is accountable for its actions. Without that, brown shirts and swastikas could become all the rave and do not think for one minute it can’t happen here!

      Oh by the way, the health care Kerry was talking about WAS NOT socialized national health care as you all myoptically misquote, rather, it was simply allowing those of us who need it the option to buy into an insurance pool, just as businesses do... what a radical idea that is! Unemployment, hmm... skewered data to include part time (no benefits) employees, those forced to work as "subcontractors" again with no benefits and more minimum wage jobs, lovely. Lastly, taxes... well, I’ll give Bush credit that he did lower taxes across the board, however, more so for the affluent individuals and companies.... so you say it is fair and appropriate for CEOs to make multimillion dollar salaries over the lowly 98% of the country? then let them apply your "trickle down" theory and trickle some of that down in taxes, what a concept!

    • To the goof who thinks the election wasn’t rigged:

      Must be written by another of the dumber-than-dirt fly-over dolts. Do you people ever read or think at all?

    • Did George Bush or any of his family make sacrifices for this country or did families lose love ones for a idiot to make money from the oil from Iraq. You don’t see his spoiled daughters signing up to go there and fight for this great cause.

    • Dear Amerikans,
      Sorry to here of your loss. Remember, time heals all wounds. (he he he). By the way, don’t come to Canada to try to escape, Bush is your problem to solve.
      When (not if) you are the recipient of the next "terrorist" attack, realize that it is the result of YOUR government’s actions, sticking its nose (and other parts) into the affairs of other sovern nations. Sure, you can keep bombing the cities and towns of those "evil little nations" that may (or may not) have terrorists living there, but you bomb and kill innocent people, with loving relatives, who will seek revenge. One day soon, we will all wake up to the sights and sounds of a serious attack (on Amerikan soil) and again ask the question "why do they do this?", to be followed by the response, "lets go blow them away". Too bad you don’t know where to find your elusive enemy, but I can help you out with that. Look to every country you have invaded, conquered, sanctioned and butchered. The list is quite long, isn’t it?
      So, go ahead with your (un)holy war, blame it on the muslims, and pucker up and keep kissing that zionist ass!

      Peace and love

    • I think we must all look into what the big picture here really is. It appears that the world peaked in oil production in late 2001 and early 2002. Literally, the problem of worldwide peak of oil production (PEAK) will effect everybody in the world and change civilization as we know it.... So as much as I agree with the majority of people I know that it looks like the fix was in on this election and yes they stole it. Nor have I ever liked this administration or their lies. But if this administration could get their act together concerning our war machine they would most likely be revered 10 to 15 years down the line, for softening the blow and effects of PEAK. Unfortunately They are failing and I fear we could be feeling the effects within the next 4 years.. If you dont know what PEAK OIL means look it up... IT WILL MAKE YOU RETHINK EVERTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT YOUR FUTURE especially for the younger people. Anyway look it up. AND PLEASE ENJOY LIFE EVERY SECOND never take what you have for granted cause if we did PEAK in the early 2000’s
      then we have an even grimmer future to be frightened of than the one presented by these flub-ups in washington.

    • I for one will go straight to your mom’s house. How in the hell could the election NOT have been a sham? We had these no-paper-trail "voting" machines forced on us( notice we didn’t get to vote on that) and Kerry caved in the next day and conceded after a 12 hour "fight". Way to go America, we let them get away with this....In a truly free country we would not have had to chose from the lesser of two evils...there would have at least been one candidate (not Nader) that really cared and wasn’t a bonesman.

    • I can hardly beleive that any of you really think that the election was somehow rigged.

      Wow - If you ever get down to Australia, I’ve got a great deal for you : a slightly used Harbour Bridge-real cheap...hell, I’ll even throw in the Opera House!

    • G.W.Bush, G.H.W.Bush, Grandfather, Gore, Clinton, et al are members of the Illuminati.

      Kerry intiated Bush Jr. into the Skull & Bones at Yale. They both had to be naked for
      the initiation. This is fact. Ignore it and advertise your lack of knowledge.

      Kerry in reality won but was told to stand down...just as our forces were told to stand
      down during 9/11.

      Please stop letting someone else think for you. If you have eyes, then see....If you
      have ears then hear. I would never tell you what to believe or not to believe, but
      follow your own TRUTH.

    • Torture at Abu Graib? Underwear over one’s head? Being naked and laughed at? Compare that to Saddam and his wood chipper (head first when he offered some mercy). You left lunatics make me laugh. Mass murder of 100,000 Iraqis? HAHAHAHAHA

      Prove the election was rigged moron. if you can’t SHUT UP..you sound like that fat idiot Michael Moore.

    • You can leave any time. Unlike China no one will stop you.

    • To whoever in the EU invited us americans into your counties THANK YOU. It warms my terrified heard to know you all don’t hate us and realize we don’t all want this for our country or the world.
      Take Care, Anna

    • maybe Eminem will be a guest on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart

    • What an idiot. They were right when they said that Bush supporters had low IQs. Get over it, is that the best you can do; sounds like you took your lessons from the President.

    • exscuse medid read someonesaid you were much saferbefore 9/11.you forgot oklahoma tradgady etc.have you had blinders on? THESE WERE FEAR GAMES TO LEAD YOU UP TO THESE GREAT DAYS OF REAL KILLING FIELDS.ALLYOUR CHILDREN AND MORE COMING TO BE KILLED. INCLUDING INNOCENT IRAQI CHILDREN WHO DONOT UNDER STAND . GREAT WHITE WARRIORS FLY BY AIR AND COME BY SEA TO SAVE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ,WE HAVE BIG PLANES,TANKS. FLAME THROWERS MADE OF SOME KIND OF FABULOUS NEW INVENTION THAT CAN MAKE EVERY THING SHRINK TO ATOY EVEN YOU MY CHILD WILL LOOK LIIKE BABYAGAIN WHEN YOU DIE.WHEN NECESSARY ONE DAY TO CONTROL OUR OWN PEOPLE TOO. WE HAVE CAMPS READYNOW TO ENLAVE THEM IF THEY MISBEHAVE S0 FAR THEY ARE GOOD CHILDREN ! tHEY HAVE TO TO LISTEN TO US STORY TELLERS EVEN IF WE NEVER TELL THE TRUTHAND WE HAVE TO KEEP KILLING YOU AND THEM. WE ARETHE SAVIOURS OF THE DEVIL (GOD ) SORRY I MEANT GOD! after all these yrs we can have our new world order,who knows we have abig city under ground? you peasants will be gone and who ever is left cannot survive for long. we love oil $$$$$$$$$good bye you drols we elite go under ground now and raise and keep our blue bloods from getting contaminated.oh i for gotchemtrails make nice sky lots of chemicles we test no body knows what their all about . we can spy?cause sick ness?etc. dumbed down people don,t causetroble and argue with moses (thats me )GWb good-night allyou heathens.!!!

    • Yo, dipstick, Iraq wasn’t involved in blowing up anything here, Al Quaeda was. Your bullshit is missing the target as badly as your bombs.

    • You don’t do yourself — or the Democratic majority in this country — any favors with your borderline anti-Semitic comments. You play right into the hands of the fascist Republicans.

      The fact is that the overwhelming majority of Jewish Americans and pro-Israel Americans voted for John Kerry, who has a 100% pro-Israel rating from AIPAC.

    • you’re no longer masters of the planet, man...
      change before it’s too late...

    • DEMOCRAPS are the ones who need to WAKE UP.

      YA LOST!!

      GET OVER IDUBYA RULES FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS!!!!!!

      AS HOWARD DEAN WOULD SAY....YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAA!

    • No terrorist attacks since 9/11. I work in the FBI. Believe me we are nailing these terrorist EVERY DAY in and out of America. We are MUCH SAFER after 9/11. A lot of this stuff does not get reported for security reasons. The fact that we have not been attacked in THREE YEARS proves it.

      Last I checked we import very little if at all any oil from Iraq. There goes CONSERVATIVE CONSIRACY # 1290 out the window I guess.

      You LIBERALS crack me up.

    • According to Newsweek magazine: "Kerry’s diary included mention of a meeting with some North Vietnamese terrorists in Paris."

      Though Kerry’s sit-down with North Vietnamese representatives had been reported late in the campaign, his description of them as "terrorists" would have set off smoke alarms.

      The prospect that the top Democrat was willing to negotiate with "terrorists" 35-years ago would undoubtedly cement the Bush campaign’s central message on Kerry: Anyone who would negotiate with terrorists can’t be trusted with U.S. national security in a post-9/11 world.

      John Edwards was "flabbergasted" by the news, Newsweek said. He recognized immediately how important it was to keep Kerry’s terrorist confab secret.

      "Let me get this straight," he told campaign staffers who delivered the shocker. "He met with terrorists? Oh, that’s good."

      THANK GOD FOR GEORGE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!

    • That’s the PROBLEM. There is only ONE TRUTH. Not many. ONE.

      DEMOCRATS have yet to find it this year or in 2000.

      Republicans already know what it is.

      GEORGE W. BUSH - PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

    • Oh my ! please run out soon and buy the book ofNOSTRADAMUS THE NEW MILLENNIUM!IF YOU HAVE NOT READ IT BY JOHN HOGUE ,IF YOU HAVE IT AND FOR GOT THE CONTENTS , PLEASE READIT AGAIN! HE SPEAKS OF THE MABUS THE FINAL ANTI CHRIST! NAPLEON,HITLERAND OTHERS.INCLUDING SADAMM, BINLADEN,GEORGE BUSH WAS ALSO INCLUDED(IS NOT ANTI MEAN AGAINST RELIGION AGAINST GOD! YOU CAN GO TO CHURCH DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE ALOVING KIND TOLERANT PERSON! HE HAS TO ACT,HE ’D MAKE AGOOD MOVIE STAR.MOVIES ARE TO MAKE IT LOOK AS REAL AS POSSIBLE. ALSO HE IS IN ADANGEROUS TIME OF A PRESIDENT AS HARDING ,KENNEDY,REAGAN WAS ALMOST ASSASINATED,ENDED UP DIEING WITH ALZIEMERS. BUSH IT WILLBE EITHER AIR FORCE ONE, OR AHEART ATTACK,SHORTLY DURING HIS SECOND TERM IN OFFICE. SO DOES THE WORLD GET A SECOND CHANC E? DID SOMEONE KNOW THIS AND PULL KERRY OUT FOR LATER? YOU WOULD BE SURPRIZED IF YOU KNEW WHO! KERRY FOLDED TO EASILY.THE GROUP BEHIND THE PRESIDENT WHO RUN THE SHOW. NOUGTHING LASTS FOREVER. EVEN AS MAN PLAYSGOD DESTROYING THE EARTH AND EVERY LIVING CREATURE. GIA ALWAYS IN HER TIME RETURNS WHOLE!!! AND CLEANSES HERSELF AND AS EACH CIVILIZATION WE EXCAVATE PROVES THAT! TREES ,GRASS,FLOWERS, EVEN THE BUGS ,AND ALL ANIMALS AND US ARE SOME ONES DIVINE LOVE OF ALLTHINGS IN THEIR RIGHT PLACE AND WE ARE THE CARETAKERSFOR THE GOOD OR BAD.WEARE TO LEARN THIS.MEN KILL , RAPE, WOMEN CHILDREN,NOT ONE AT A TIME THOUSANDS! IRAQ ,FULLAJA ,PALESTINE AS THEY DO NOT KNOW THEY GOT HERE THROUGH THE WOMANS WOMB THAT THEY SO DISRESPECT AND ROOM AND BOARD FOR NINE MONTHS THEN THEY STILL DONT KNOW THE PAIN WE BEAR.THEY WOULD LOVE THE ABORTION DR.S IF IT WAS THEIRS. THEY GIVE PAIN EVEN TO CHILDREN ALL OVER THE WORLD IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT IS ANEW BORN OR ANY AGE BASHING ,RAPING KILLING .WE MOTHERS ONE DAY AND WOMEN ALL OVER THE WORLD WILL RETAILLIATE TO SAVE ALL OUR CHILDREN FROM THIS KIND OF ABUSE, WHEN WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH AND STOP BEING AFRAID OF THE MALE BULLYS OF THE WORLD TO LIVE IN HARMONY WITH OUR LOVED ONES, SO THEY TO WILL FEEL REAL LOVE WITH IN AND OUT. WOMEN MUST GET TIRED OF G.I.JOES ALLOVER THE WORLD . MEANING ANY NATIONALITY.MEN DO NOT NEED GUNS TO KILL EVERY CREATURE THAT WALKS.! IS THE MONEY WORTH IT? FOR THE RICH YES THEIR CHILDREN ARE SPOILED ROTTEN AND PROTECTED FROM HARM WITH BODY GUARDS.WE CANNOT PROTECT OUR LOVED ONES .THEY LISTEN TO THE GARBAGE THE ELITE PUTS OUT , THEY DON’T HAVE TO .THE WORST TERORIST IS IN OUR OWN BACK YARD. OIL THERE IS MORE OIL THAN YOU KNOW , IN OTHER PLACES THEY WILL NOT TELLYOU . GREED ,AND THE EX SCUSE TO BECOME ROMAN EMPIRE ALL OVER AGAIN, SADAMM WHERE IS HE? IF THEY DIDN’T CAPTURE ONE OF HIS CLONES! HE HAS. THE STORY IS THEY WISKED HIM AWAY ON AN AMERICAN JET AND DROVE HIM TO THE AIRPORT IN ABLACK CAR ENTOURAGE AS BE FITTING AROYAL DIGNATARY. IS HE THE GROOMED ANTI CHRIST?AS BINLADEN IS DEAD!!!!!!! PLOY GOES ON . TRUTH WE WANT . IT ALWAYS DOES . GET THE BOOK. SOON THEY MAY TURN TO BOOK BURNING.

    • Don’t ya just love it when the libs quote Hitler, Goebbels, and the rest of their Nazi pals? HA!

    • Gee. We libs are so smart, we have high IQs our guy has to win. So because he didn’t the election was rigged. Yeah, that must be the reason, it was all fixed. Everybody I talked to was voting for Kerry.

      "We Democrats better think long and hard about what happened... and how our party is going to connect with the hopes and aspirations of the people," Sen. Christopher Dodd, (D-Conn.), said Wednesday after winning re-election but watching Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, (D-S.D.), an 18-year Senate veteran, go down in defeat. "We have lost the ability to connect with people’s value systems and we’re going to have to work to get that back."

      "I think that the Democratic party nationally is perceived as being out of step with mainstream values," said Rep. Earl Pomeroy, (D-N.D.) "I want our party to do a better job of speaking to matters of faith and family."

      Without changes, some Democrats say, there seems to be little hope of shedding minority status anytime soon.

      I love it when all the liberals quote Hitler, Goebbels, and the rest of the Nazis.

    • GO CHECK OUT SOME NEO-NAZI SITES.YOU WILL FIND MOST SUPPORT BUSH.

    • THE IDEA WAS NOT TO USE THE IRAQ OIL,IT WAS TO WITHHOLD IT TO PUSH THE PRICES UP.IF YOU WORK FOR THE FBI,YOU SHOULD COME TO AUSTRALIA.APPARENTLY WE NOW NEED YOU TO COME INTERFERE WITH OUR LEGAL SYSTEM.

      YOU MAKE ME SICK.

    • AND I SUPPOSE YOU VOTED FOR JOHN HEAD-UP-BUSHES-ARSE HOWARD.IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT MAKE ME ASHAMED TO BE AUSTRALIAN.

  • I am reminded of a journalist who was so surprised that Regan won. She said something to the effect of how could he win I don’t know anyone who voted for him. The reason why she didn’t know anyone who voted for him is because she lives in an echo chamber. Her opinions are never challenged, everyone she knows agrees with her, and she never listens to anyone else point of view. Kerry lost for a few reasons
    1. He failed to differentiate his plan for Iraq from Bush’s. His plan was identical to Bush’s, other than his assumption that he could get allies that were not helping us to change their minds. The problem was France and Germany said that no matter who is president they wouldn’t help us. He also failed to take into account that the UN, France, Germany, and Russia were being bribed by Sadam.
    2. Kerry failed to separate the war in Iraq for the war on terror. In instead of doing this he frequently linked the two which is a mistake.
    3. The subject mainly stayed of security issues instead of domestic issues such as Health care ect.
    4. There were ballot initiatives on gay marriage that overwhelmingly passed in 11 states. The questions were in several of the swing states causing a higher than normal conservative turn out.
    5. Kerry really failed to get rid of the Flip flopper label. Instead he really made it worse. He changed his position so much in Iraq no one really knew were he stood.

  • liberal pukes need to stop deviding this country and stop crying! you lost. Stop being a sore loser. Kerry would have vowed to every UN demand. That is not an American value. Should we roll over and let every American soldier who died serving this country to remain free from new world order? wise up. Don’t let our guys sacrifice go in vein!

  • How in the world can a group of liberal booger eaters rise up, when we own all the guns and employ most of your people. It’s time to accept that most of this country believes differently than you do. We see an America that is fair to everone and requires people to be responsible for their lifes decisions. You choose to do the wrong things when young, then live with those mistakes. I am tired of paying over fifty percent of my income to taxes, I’m tired of hearing about your gay rights, I’m tired of Hollywood trying to water down our morals, I’m tired of you kool-aid drinkers wanting to see a weaker USA. If other countries do not like us, who cares. We live for us not them. There will always be at least one superpower in the world, would you rather see Iran or China or the combined efforts of the middle east? The USA is not an affliction on the world, it is the cure.

    One other issue that bothers me, is the "jobs are being shipped overseas" quote that I hear on a daily basis. GUESSS WHAT PEOPLE, if you want our jobs to stay here, we all need to buy only American made products. Americans are famous for deal hunting, when was the last time your purchases were driven by where the product was made. Its not a company’s fault that they are forced to go abroad to find a profit. ITS OURS!!!!!!!
    I am truely upset about our countries deep divide. We live in a time that is defined by gay rights and abortion. No matter which side your on, you are required to HATE the other side. Lets all just take a deep breath and trust the majority of Americans that will look out for your side even if still hate us. Sorry ’bout the rant........

    • Yes, but, laddo: In response to the second section of your post: the facts that a) Americans (and most other people) are bargain-hunters, and b) that companies ship jobs abroad to bottom-level-wage Third World countries to make higher profits - or indeed to make ANY profit, in the case of scenario a), if they’re selling stack-em-high products, like WalMart.... THOSE are all features of CAPITALISM, the economic system you so obviously and enthusiastically espouse. NO amount of talking about "buying American" will do anything to improve matters. That’s what you vote for; that’s what you’re stuck with.

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    In other words unless your a liberal you can not post here.

    You my friend are lost and blind. Drop the hate before its to late.

    TF

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      IT SEEMS THAT THE BUSH SUPPORTERS ARE THE MOST ABUSIVE.

    • I would say both sides have been breaking the rules.

  • Ever heard of Rome everyone? That’s exactly how this country will end, and I don’t want it to because I love what this country symbolizes: freedom, love, peace and equality. But so far I haven’t seen any, and Bush is further making this a facist country run solely by the war- loving welathy people of this country. This is how Rome was too, and the wealthy were so sure they would never have to worry about their homeland. Then what happened? They fell, and quite hard too. That is what is happening to America. By re-electing Bush, you have further repeated the history of good ole Rome. Or possibly, Civil war Two, with the poor against the wealthy. Some of you may find it ridiculous, but believe me, this has been predicted for a long time, and I fear this is going to happen pretty soon as well. So the country will fall to pieces, and the rich and poor will be going against one another. What a life I am to grow old in. And I know plenty of places where I could live so much better, but I want to stay, for my ancestors brought my family here in hopes of a better day...but I’m losing hope, and so are many more. What is here to live for? Weaker economy, higher gas prices, less health care, and a war only for more oil directed to Bush’s buddies while letting Osama sit someplace far-off, well- fed and unharmed. Then what are the wealthy going to do when they’re the only ones in America? My god!- they’ll have to work for their money at long last, and risk their pampered butts in the Middle East!

    • Yes, I’ve heard of Rome. Been there. It’s still there. The political entity which ruled the Holy Roman Empire during its 7th century decline is still the most powerful political organization on the planet. It’s called the Catholic Church. They have had a pretty good run, I’d say. I expect that democracy, invented in America, will probably have as good a run.

    • Democracy, invented in AMerica? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I suppose ancient Athens was also invented in America? Enjoy the draft, you dumb motherfucker.

  • And you people wonder why you keep losing.

    So your evidence is "I know this guy who knows these people who said this."

    Flimsy and amateurish. Like I said, no wonder you lose.

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  • Face the facts. Most of the 6 billion people on the planet know that George Bush did not win the election fairly in 2000 or 2004. Even the ones who voted for him know that. Not one of the 6 billion has the guts nor the power to take George W Bush, a known liar and thief out of the white house. The president of the US has control of each one of the 6 billion lives in some manner. Otherwise, he would have been taken out long ago. Pigs are flying today, and the top pig is roasting all of us other litte piglets. If anyone has a plan other than the usual jaw-jacking to get that maniac off of our backs I would like to hear it. Not a single protestor, lawsuit, demonstration or tongue lashing can dent the armor of this guy. Give us something that works!

    • My dear fellow: You must leave emotion aside and use your intellect, cunning and legal ability - much like the machiavellian plotters of the neoconservative movement. You HAVE a legal system that can ENSURE that all votes - that finally make it to the polls, and that don’t get lost in the electrons of Diebold machines - ARE counted. WRITE TO ALL CONGRESSMEN; write to the leadership of your country’s Democratic Party - MAKE SURE THAT ALL VOTES FROM OHIO, FROM CALIFORNIA, FROM ALL THESE OTHER CLOSELY-FOUGHT STATES ARE COUNTED. People stood for up to 10 HOURS IN THE POURING RAIN to place these votes. They were still queuing when that Card guy announced the election for the Republicans. WHAT A THIRD-WORLD STYLE FRAUD/FIASCO. SOUTH AFRICA CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT! You MUST push for (I can’t, sadly, not being American) A FULL COUNT OF A-L-L THE VOTES; and secondly, AN INVESTIGATION OF ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES AND THE COMPANIES THAT PRODUCE THEM.

      If, after a full count, which will only START - if it ever DOES start - in just over another week - Kerry IS proved to have won OHIO, by the narrowest of margins - all the people who didn’t vote for Bush must rise up and evict him from the White House! Even if it means camping outside like the WWI veterans did with Hoover - and got attacked by the army for their pains!

      It’s simple! That’s what you all must do!

      If, however, Kerry CAN’T be proved to have won by a narrow margin, as was originally predicted; well, you’ve got a harder struggle ahead of you. BUT IT ALL HINGES ON REFORMING THE US’ VOTING, VOTER REGISTRATION AND VOTE-COUNTING SYSTEM. Liz, UK.

    • You are truly an IDIOT. Now Bush stoled 2004? You Democraps never give up. As far as liar and thief you must be talking about BILL CLINTON. He is the only President that was IMPEACHED in the last 100 years and the only one that was CAUGHT LYING...oh he was disbarred in Arkansas..what a great example of judgement and morality.

  • I an not surprised that I’m reading these comments on this site.....it’s obviously based outside of the continental US or at least run by 1st generation "citizens" or more likely just "guests" of the United States here on some Visa or student status.

    If you have such accusations of our election process....PROVE IT! Otherwise, quit with the hate mongering. I am from the midwest US and have lived on the east coast and now the southwest. I am tolerant of other cultures, but why are they not tolerant with mine? My family arrived here before the revolutionary war and I think I have earned the right to speak my mind. The rest of you that are here just because you hate Americans and what we believe in, just bring your ranting to any midwestern town and we’ll have a nice little chat about what America is all about.

    Don’t try to make the US a big brother of Europe, we are different and will always be different. We don’t have to accept your ideals or dreams of a global society. We can take care of our own while taking care of everyone else. I’d be surprised if the authors of many of these left wing submissions would have even been born if US troops hadn’t pulled their ancestors rear ends out of the frying pan on some distant battlefield.

    Keep dreaming that someday you’ll get your way. You will only be preaching to those just like you and, by the way, you are the ones outnumbered.

  • Kerry lost the election because he was ment to. It wasn’t Bush and the Republicans who won, it was the Clinton Democrats who never really support Kerry. Kerry was the 2004 sacrifical lamb. He was ment to loose, and Hillary Clinton is all smiles.

  • The only humans that support Bush are either brain dead,retarded,in a religeous coma or just plain sadistic with no regard for human life.There,that about covers it.From this point on we should all give up trying to figure them out because theres no point trying to salvage the damned.

    • Contrare my friend...people who voted for Bush are PRO LIFE...it’s you side that could give a DAMN. Hollywood (and PETA) would just as soon save a seal than a baby...THINK ABOUT THAT.
      No wonder the Democrats lost!

    • PRO LIFE UNLESS YOUR AN IRAQI.HIPPOCRITE!!!!

  • What I see here is an enormous amount of Projection by one more Sore/Loserman Leftist. If we Americans wanted jerks like him or his Boy Ho Chi Kerry in charge we would move to France or Canada.

  • I’ll be the first to start the spark.

    This is beyond a democrat/liberal vs rebublican/conservative issue. This is a rich vs poor, black vs white issue. When will us Americans stand up and take to the streets and demand that liberty be returned to this country? Our troops are being told that they are in the middle east to make sure that Iraqi’s have a fair election.... then show the common courtesy and respect and DEMAND A FAIR ELECTION AT HOME. If there is a report of even ONE vote not counted, this is not a democracy and its a disgrace to what our troops are fighting for now, and what our uncles, fathers, grandparents, and great parents fought for in Vietnam, Korea, WWII, and WWI. Show the courage our troops are showing right now and fight against this injustice. Just rise up and start it!!!!

    What will it take? When will stom the white house? When will the american’s who didnt vote for Zionist agendas take back this country by force?

  • Do you know why Bush won? He won because he is a real person. Everyone could see him for who he was, including all his flaws. John Kerry is as phony as a boy-toy pop band, just as he has been all his life. He has spent his entire life trying to create himself into the image of other people. As a result there is no John Kerry the man, just John Kerry the pollititian. You see it every time his face shows up on television, the photo opps. There is John Kerry the wind surfer, John Kerry the snow boarder, John Kerry the biker, the runner, the hunter, the sporting clays enthusiast, and so on ad-nauseum. Come on, real people only do one or two things for activities and enjoyment: Bush bikes and jogs, Clinton jogged, Bush 41 hunted, Reagan rode horses, Carter did self-flaggellation, Ford liked to fall down, Nixon drank, LBJ liked to play general, and Kennedy self-medicated and indulged in recreational sex. Kerry always wore that stupid Carhart jacket (the one with the black collar, made of tan duck) while campaigning as if people would actually believe that he had walked into a Farm and Fleet or a feed supply store and bought it off the rack. Real men (farmers, ranchers, hunters, loggers, trappers, garbage men, etc,) wear carharts to work in outdoors. They always take them off before they go to town or to church because they are dirty and not fashionable in any way , shape , or form. My carharts are stained and torn with shiny elbows and dark stained rings around the sleeves. The impression Kerry gave with it would be the same one George Bush would have made if he had popped a yamaluka onto his head everytime he got off the plane.
    Real men wear carharts. Real men don’t drop their wives into insane asylums and divorce them. Real men don’t abandon their troops in a combat zone a third of the way through their tour of duty just because they can. Real men dont have to pretend they speak french (I heard Kerry addressing Haitians in Florida). Real men dont get $1200 hair cuts. John Kerry is only the image of a man, created for television and nothing else, and, just like a beer commercial, he can only hold your attention for 30 seconds, but it is only the image that they are trying to sell so that can be effective.

    You don’t know anyone who voted for Bush? Surely someone in the congregation of your church voted for him. Oh, you dont belong to a church? Most Americans do.

    How do the people in red states differ from the blue states? It is pretty obvious to the red staters but the blues wouldn’t notice these things in a million years. The red staters are much more likely to own property than the blues. The red states also have concealed-carry laws and shall-issue laws. Except for Pennsylvania(where the outcome was closer than in Ohio), none of the blue states do. Blues probably have no clue what these laws mean.

    • Those are interesting red state observations. In the states with concealed carry laws, the gun control debate has completely disappeared as people have begun to realize that guns make them safer. I expect that people in red states all have someone they love of at least someone they know serving in Iraq. You certainly can’t say that about blue states. You can bet that every single one of these folks know what Kerry did to the Vietnam vets.

      And what was this stupid nonsense about Kerry suddenly discovering he was Jewish? He had always claimed that he was Irish. Red state people know, as all civilized people do, who their father, grandfathers, and great-grandfathers were. I guess only blue staters, so many of whom have no idea who their fathers are, could believe that crap.

  • First off, stop complaining. Just because your candidate lost, you have to cry about it. Well, I can understand that, but stop. Denial about how bad Bush is? Sorry, but you’re in denial about the facts behind Kerry, and how bad HE really is. You’re the type of person to believe everything you hear on the TV and News. Just in case you never knew, the Television is extremely biased. You need to listen to more news sources, and have a greater knowledge of politics. I’ve been around politics since a very young age, so I can safely say I have as much experience as some candidates who run for Congress and such. I guess you missed the story about how Kerry almost killed his Limo driver and everyone in it. The driver was doing 60 in a 55, and Kerry told him to hurry up. When he said he couldn’t, because he was already going above the limit, Kerry reached over and stomped his foot down on top of the driver’s and he ended up flooring it, and they almost crashed. I guess you don’t realize that Kerry constantly changes his mind, and how will he ever keep an alliance with a foreign country, if they question his word. What if he was president when we went into Iraq? He voted for the support funds, before he voted against it. Well, what if we had invaded with him, and then a few months later, he had another "awakening", and said "I’m sorry we invaded Iraq, it was a mistake". Wow, that’d go real great with the soldiers who died over there. How about his Purple Hearts. The News didn’t even report half of the story. a Member of my family is a retired United States Navy Captain. The story about Kerry faking his wounds for the 3 Purple Hearts, so he could ditch his buddies in Vietnam early, well that was widely known amongst many in the Navy long before the ads aired on Television. But I guess you don’t believe in investigating that, or asking around. I also guess you don’t believe in Honor, and backing your friends then. If you have any piece of an opened mind, you wouldn’t believe the news as if it’s part of your religion. It’s very sad to say that nearly half the country is that way right now. Very closed minded, and blinded by the Media, like a smoke screen. I guess you also never heard about the poll Kerry fielded after the latest airing of the Osama Bin Laden tape, regarding the election as being in our hands. He held a poll, and asked people, what his response should be, and he responded in the exact same manner. Now if that isn’t pathetic for someone who is supposed to lead us, then what is. Regardless of whether or not you like Bush, as least give him the respect for standing up for what he believes in, and never backing down, despite some people’s opposition. That takes some serious courage, and if you don’t think so, then try doing it. As for the war in Iraq, most of the TV images of people protesting us there, is a VERY small percentage. Those are the ones who benefited from Saddam, which is not too many. Many of my friends went over there, and even they said the Media over here has it twisted. The majority of people over there were so excited to see us there, they literally went bouncing around the streets. Even this past summer, they still felt the same way. As for the war being pointless, we got rid of Saddam. The WMD’s, even Tommy Franks, the Commanding General, said he can’t believe how fast Americans "jumped off the ramp" the minute they heard that we didn’t find them. If you want proof, let me know, I have a picture of a Mig Fighter Jet buried in the Iraqi Desert, under 10 feet of sand. It was right under our noses, and we didn’t uncover it, by chance, until this past year. A Jet... A Missile or Warhead containing a Biological, Chemical, or Nuclear agent, is by far, not even close to the size of the Cockpit of the jet, let alone the entire plane. Just think of the possibilites. I guarantee you though, that you never saw that on your Nightly News. You also have no ideals of Military Strategy, because what we are doing in Iraq, is Military genius. I would go into the details, but terroists read the internet too, and Im not willing to broadcast the strategy. I am not telling you, what is right or wrong, but what I am saying is, open up your mind, and look into what I have just told you.

  • America safer thanks to Bush = Bullshit:
    "You Republicans will find out soon enough, as our manufacturing base continues to move overseas. You can’t convert warehouses to making weapons of defense in war time, and Rosie the Riveter’s grandaughter isn’t going to build tanks, planes, or ships by moving fork-lifted pallets of goods produced by impoverished nearly-indentured Chinese nationals around between four otherwise empty walls. Nor can you invent a new atom bomb solution when all your research facilities and technologically sophisticated jobs have been outsourced to India and other points free of fascism. I hope the rest of the world will remember that first paragraph when they "liberate" the US after four more years of the same stupidity the last four have shown. He’s even allowing outsourcing of spare part manufacturing for those precious planes and missiles and tanks, I bet. Think a country that has just declared war on you will continue to ship you spares? National security? Bush is an utter disaster for national security. Especially in the face of having next to no negotiating skills, nor the ears to listen to the least amount of reason." = the real truth. The rich are going to all move to China where they can hire serfs at $.30/hour with no health care at all while they let everyone here get rolled over as people around the world take it out on the "idiots that ’voted’ these M.F’s into office."

  • How are we safer? Is it because Bush kept saying we are safer at least 10+ times in his speachs? Heres a good one for you. The only reason America felt "unsafe" was because of 9-11. 9-11 was blamed on Osama Bin Laden. Well then why did Bush say he is not concerned with Osama? Dont believe it? http://www.internetvetsfortruth.org Listen to Bush say hes not concerned. The only time in my life that I have felt unsafe in America, is durning 9-11, after 9-11, and now.. after 2004 elections.

  • First off, stop complaining. Just because your candidate lost, you have to cry about it. Well, I can understand that, but stop. Denial about how bad Bush is? Sorry, but you’re in denial about the facts behind Kerry, and how bad HE really is. You’re the type of person to believe everything you hear on the TV and News. Just in case you never knew, the Television is extremely biased. You need to listen to more news sources, and have a greater knowledge of politics. I’ve been around politics since a very young age, so I can safely say I have as much experience as some candidates who run for Congress and such. I guess you missed the story about how Kerry almost killed his Limo driver and everyone in it. The driver was doing 60 in a 55, and Kerry told him to hurry up. When he said he couldn’t, because he was already going above the limit, Kerry reached over and stomped his foot down on top of the driver’s and he ended up flooring it, and they almost crashed. I guess you don’t realize that Kerry constantly changes his mind, and how will he ever keep an alliance with a foreign country, if they question his word. What if he was president when we went into Iraq? He voted for the support funds, before he voted against it. Well, what if we had invaded with him, and then a few months later, he had another "awakening", and said "I’m sorry we invaded Iraq, it was a mistake". Wow, that’d go real great with the soldiers who died over there. How about his Purple Hearts. The News didn’t even report half of the story. a Member of my family is a retired United States Navy Captain. The story about Kerry faking his wounds for the 3 Purple Hearts, so he could ditch his buddies in Vietnam early, well that was widely known amongst many in the Navy long before the ads aired on Television. But I guess you don’t believe in investigating that, or asking around. I also guess you don’t believe in Honor, and backing your friends then. If you have any piece of an opened mind, you wouldn’t believe the news as if it’s part of your religion. It’s very sad to say that nearly half the country is that way right now. Very closed minded, and blinded by the Media, like a smoke screen. I guess you also never heard about the poll Kerry fielded after the latest airing of the Osama Bin Laden tape, regarding the election as being in our hands. He held a poll, and asked people, what his response should be, and he responded in the exact same manner. Now if that isn’t pathetic for someone who is supposed to lead us, then what is. Regardless of whether or not you like Bush, as least give him the respect for standing up for what he believes in, and never backing down, despite some people’s opposition. That takes some serious courage, and if you don’t think so, then try doing it. As for the war in Iraq, most of the TV images of people protesting us there, is a VERY small percentage. Those are the ones who benefited from Saddam, which is not too many. Many of my friends went over there, and even they said the Media over here has it twisted. The majority of people over there were so excited to see us there, they literally went bouncing around the streets. Even this past summer, they still felt the same way. As for the war being pointless, we got rid of Saddam. The WMD’s, even Tommy Franks, the Commanding General, said he can’t believe how fast Americans "jumped off the ramp" the minute they heard that we didn’t find them. If you want proof, let me know, I have a picture of a Mig Fighter Jet buried in the Iraqi Desert, under 10 feet of sand. It was right under our noses, and we didn’t uncover it, by chance, until this past year. A Jet... A Missile or Warhead containing a Biological, Chemical, or Nuclear agent, is by far, not even close to the size of the Cockpit of the jet, let alone the entire plane. Just think of the possibilites. I guarantee you though, that you never saw that on your Nightly News. You also have no ideals of Military Strategy, because what we are doing in Iraq, is Military genius. I would go into the details, but terroists read the internet too, and Im not willing to broadcast the strategy. I am not telling you, what is right or wrong, but what I am saying is, open up your mind, and look into what I have just told you.

  • (RE: I can hardly beleive...) Where on earth did you get those stats on Canadian health care!?!? To more closely reflect reality, you may want to cut those #s by at least 2/3rds , which is still not very good, but it beats crazy insurance premiums and 4 or 5+ figure medical bills. As for the unemployment rate, tell me this, are people on disability NOT unemployed? are people who have exhausted their unemployment insurance benefits and/or have given up searching for jobs NOT unemployed? are people on welfare NOT unemployed? Shouldn’t these people be considered unemployed? Well they ARE in Canada (and the rest of the world), they are NOT in the US. Unemployment rates in the US are based on the number of people who are registered to claim unemployment benefits and are actively searching for work, totally ignoring people in the aforementioned situations. Can you say "Cooking the Books"? In reality, which you don’t seem to be living in, our two nations unemployment % rates are almost identical, with the US having maybe a 0.1% - 0.2% edge. Here’s another book-cooking example that’s related, high US job creation numbers forget to mention that %80 of the "New Jobs" created are temporary or part-time, accepted by people out of desperation. These "new jobs" are put in the same pile as real full-time jobs, artificially lowering unemployment #s... I will also refrain from discussing how much taxes we pay. I welcome any American who comes to Canada to get away from that criminal lunatic bobblehead... humm, George W. Bush Bobbleheads... there’s an idea that could create a lot of full time jobs in the US, oops too late!, the US company who makes them is outsourcing in China...

    • For such an unremarkable blowhard, Moore managed to insinuate himself rather prominently into the electoral process. First he produced one of the most egregiously dishonest political propaganda films seen since Triumph of the Will in Fahrenheit 9/11, which even sympathetic journalists found detailed fact-checking necessary to perform while reviewing. He received the embrace of Democratic leadership and occupied a prominent spot during their convention; in fact, Tom Daschle may owe his retirement to a literal embrace of Moore at the film’s DC premier.

      Moore traveled to Florida with over a thousand cameras, salivating over documenting incidents of voter intimidation on Election Day. Having discovered that those urban legends were just that, Moore traveled to Ohio in the afternoon to stir up whatever mischief he could make. And at the end of the day, Moore found himself soundly rejected by the American electorate, either in spite or as a result of his best efforts to sway them.

      So now they’re quiet as church mice while they absorb their complete failure on the political stage. Their silence is as sweet music to my ears, I must admit. I advise you to enjoy it while it lasts. Hollywood and Michael Moore won’t go away forever; they’re too convinced of their moral superiority to leave quietly.

      However, the Democrats may finally have learned to steer clear of them. Daschle learned that lesson one election too late.

  • Ben, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Check out the article on americanspectator.com, from the Washington Prowler titled, Tuesday’s Dirty Numbers - this is the real story behind what happened to the exit polling numbers. You cowards have been juicing the polls all year and tried to pull some shit in the exit polling...you deserve to wallow in your own self-pity, it’s hilarious to listen to you cry and whine like there is some conspiracy to control the voting machine software, hell we can’t even stop music downloads! Face it, you are the minority now and for a very long time - I was a government contractor working on a major software project, I’ve seen the government at work in dealing with IT - there is no way some kind of voting fraud could occur electronically half the people working for government can’t even figure out how to get a Windows update let alone implement a scheme for electronic voter fraud on a scale of mass proportion.

    • Isreal and the Zionist. I say no more.

    • Explain this:

      Why did we hire an atm maker (which have paper receipts) to produce voting machines that do not have paper receipts? Why? What possible reason is there other than to steal the vote?

      For both Bush and Kerry believers:
      Why did Kerry keep saying this was the most important election of our lifetime, then quit when he’s only down by 130,000 thousand with 250,000 uncounted votes? If he really cared about restoring our democracy, wouldn’t he have fought a little harder? If he really cared, he would have demanded a fair and transparent election.

      All I can say is, thanks Kerry, by caving so early you proved that Skull and Bones is not just a conspiracy- it’s a fact. Guess that means Kerry’s probably in a coffin with Marvin right now.

      Rise up America, a beautiful world awaits!

    • A quick note to all those people who purport to be the intellectuals of the Republican support base. I am an Australian (ally) and nobody (out of hundreds I talk to every day) remotely likes Bush. I would then like to postulate that the average American is simular to us. This means the election was fabricated. To tell dissenters in your fellow countrymen to leave your country, because they feel unsafe, will not resolve the issue. No matter where you run, the "all powerful" USA has it’s corporate and military roots digging into our combined back yards . If the dissenters leave USA, there will be no voice of reason or choice left to stop them. Think hard before you turn on your fellow countrymen, you may need them one day!

    • Re "Isreal and the Zionist. I say no more." —

      Despite your lack of English abilities (and IQ, I imagine), I do expect you to say more. "Sieg Heil," to be specific.

      Now take a hike, Adolf.

    • The only person in Australia who talks to HUNDREDS of people every day is probably your Prime Minister and he is definately PRO BUSH.

      Try that crap on someone else.

      PLEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZEEE.

    • HI FELLOW AUSTRALIAN.ALMOST NO-ONE HERE LIKES BUSH.YOU FORGOT ABOUT LITTLE JOHNNY HEAD UP HIS ARSE.

    • AND WHO ARE THESE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE,THE ONLY TIME HE SPEAKS TO THE ACTUAL CITIZENS IS ELECTION TIME AND VIA TV BROADCASTS.OTHER THAN THAT,NONE OF US LOWLY CITIZENS CAN GET NEAR HIM.

  • I agree. There’s no way that Bush won this election. It was handed to him by sleazy Republican operatives like the Ohio Secretary of State and pseudo-Democrats like Florida’s Brenda Snipes. Would be a good idea if you could erase all the nasty posts by the paid dirtbags though. No one should have to wade through that sort of crap.

    • The US is a CONSERVATIVE COUNTRY. It always has been. In the last 10 elections the REPUBLICANS have won 7.

      The only time the donkey won was against Ford in 76 (he pardoned NIXON and it was still CLOSE) and Clinton (92 & 96) Clinton won in three ways races and NEVER had a MANDATE or 50% or more of the American people vote for him.

      When Bush 1 and Dole lost in 92 & 96 I said we will get them next time.

      When Democrats lose it’s always about vote fraud and some conspiracy (made up of course).

      Face it Dems....quit hanging around losers like Hollywood and Stupid fat White Man Michael Moore and maybe JUST maybe you guys could win again...

      Oh and quit nominating losers from the state of Massachusetts!!!

    • AND WHERE IS BUSH FORM?IDIOT

    • Bush 1 is from Mass, Bush 2 is from Texas.

    • President Bush was born on July 6, 1946, in New Haven, Connecticut.

      THIS WAS TAKEN STRAIGHT FROM THE WHITEHOUSE OFFICIAL SITE.SO WE ARE BOTH WRONG,EVEN SO THE BUSH FAMILY ARE HISTORICALLY KNOWN AS THE MA BUSH’S

  • I don’t think Bush won this election, either! Remember the Diebold CEO who said he would make sure Ohio went to Bush...well, I guess he did have the machines tweeked!! The only thing I have to say to those idiots who voted for the moron in the White House is..you deserve everything you are going to get from G.W.!!!!

  • Too right Ben!! I like the Bug’s Life analogy; it’s one I’ve seen others using on the Net. Liz from UK. By the way, am I allowed to mention my new blog here? http://kasparpolitics.blogspot.com.

  • Bush won fair and square. Get over it or get out.

    • Bush did win fair and square. Just ask these guys:

      http://www.optruth.org

      And every time an american soldier dies...my defense contract portfolio soars, when they hit the oil pipelines, my oil contracts go tick, tick, tick, up, up, up.

      I want more war AND a draft...I have no job because I quit(I’m too smart for mcdonalds, leave that to the poor, uneducated, and minorities) I can only trade the market...and with him at the helm, it’s easy to know what to buy. OIL, Defense, and short the dollar! Just look at his dad and the barrick scheme, BCCI, brown...if you can’t beat em’ join em!

      Do I feel bad our soldiers are dying to kill *cough* terrorists...sure I do, but making money is the american way. CHA-CHING! One less tank, means another has to be built. DUH. Fighting osama is a waste because it has to be all covert and shit...can’t make money off a few dead green berets...but you can when you start invading countries. Daddy WAR-bucks...get it yet?

      Both republicans and democrats need to wake up to the game and cash in...phuq it, when in Rome as they say....bush and his boys are doing it...so don’t kill the messenger, I’m just making lemonade. If the wars end and we banish terrorists from across the land...I suppose I would have to get a real job...in the meantime, while I soak rays and trade options off my laptop sitting in my underwear...I’m hoping I make enough money to contribute to JEB BUSH so he will keep it up.

      This will give me a solid 12 years to play the game(like I have been for the last 4). You guys can debate all you want, follow the smart money as they say in the trading industry.(in fact, jump in to the market, you’ll make my portfolio increase)

      See, fascists understand this, gov’t and corporations go hand in hand, the father of fascism(god rest his soul) said so himself, in fact he even named it "corporatism". America is young and naive...that’s what’s good about dual-citizenship...while you guys whine to each other and play politcal football, we make money. When we give money to both parties...it’s called, hedging your bets...kerry wouldn’t have been that bad...but he would of slowed down the war machine a little, so the money would not be so easy to make. With bush, there is no guessing, you know what he’s going to do and pretty much when he’s going to do it...buy accordingly.

      BUSH/GIULIANI ’08!!!!! Republicans better start now, because the dems are getting just as dirty as you. But then again, we need you to keep wrestling each other...because ultimately, if you get hip to our little trick...we might wind up like the father of fascism...but then again, those with money will get out in time.

      Do us a favor, keep your focus on each other, this will set you up for our next "surprise", the crash of the dollar! LATWTTB laughing all the way to the bank.

      "there’s a sucker born every minute" - P.T. Barnum.

      Click this link to see what we’re doing to the dollar by manipulating M3 and oil...

      http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/M

      There you go kids, your first lesson in trading and geopolitics. I’m available for seminars for a small fee...

  • Where you guys are loons is in your belief that Kerry would have behaved any differently as president than Bush. You think the right-wing conspiracy is so vast that they have to cheat when votes are counted, that they have to nickel and dime the voting machines? Why cheat? How much easier is it to disguise themselves as opponents of the right wing? Why not buy billionaires and dress them up as champions of the underclass? Why not buy the boy-whore of the ketchup tycooness? Why not hire John Kerry or Good Old Boy Bill Clinton to pretend to be other than they are? And they are, get over it, Republicans. If the conspiracy is as big as you say, we’re screwed. Might as well light the bong and live well, bro. You are working up an ulcer over something that you cannot control.

    MM
    Everett, WA

    • If Kerry really wanted to fight for us, this was the moment to prove it- all sorts of irregularities combined with Republican goons intimidating voters in poor neighborhoods left the door wide open for a challenge. He could have proven himself worthy of being President by fighting for the millions Bush has screwed over. Instead, he proved something else- that the ’conspiracy theorists’ were right all along- he was just part of the Skull and Bones NWO script.

      kerry_bush_SB.jpg

      Why was he scripted to lose? Because they need the right wing wackos behind Bush and the next war. If it were Kerry in the Whitehouse, he wouldn’t have the support of the ’Christian’ right wing and the Global Holy War the neocons are trying to start would lose it most fervent backers. They want to continue installing the police state with more government spying, checkpoints, random searches, national id cards- total big brother. But with the right wing hatred of Kerry, they couldn’t continue taking us down that path- that’s why it was predetermined for Bush to win.

      Someone asked for proof- here you go:

      Too many irregularities to be coincidence

    • It’s so cute to see democrats and republicans hash it out....

      "it was stolen"...yeah, and???

      "ugh, no it wasn’t, stop whining"...here’s a bridge I have to sell you too.

      Please, few people know what’s up, unfortunately these are the type of people that "run" for office and we let them...the truth is, there is more of us, then both of your "groups"...if you guys didn’t have such phuqing huge narcissistic egos...someone would take you seriously.

      But when you start phuqing shit up and wanting to "change" things, that’s when the rest of us have to start phuqing with YOU. NO CHANGE, things were fine, no erasing sections of the bill of rights and constitution...what are you insane? Americans are so young and naive, ignorance is NOT bliss, Europeans learned they’re lessons and are trying to raise flags and warn you without causing conflict. How do you think it starts? First they have to take your rights or promise security for you to give them up freely, then you aint shit. For my kids, your kids, phuq the bullshit and grow up. What do you want to do, build a protective dome around america like some paranoid witch hunters wearing white wigs?

      government control is not good, the constitution...phuqing read it.

      Please don’t start any more wars, your just inviting more protests on the streets, which only leads to police brutality...for revenge? for freedom? for control? forget it. People die everyday, it’s sad, war is not the answer, we learned that, now get over it.

      We have the constitution and bill of rights, love it or YOU leave it.

    • I’m curious..did the Europeans really learn about the horrors of war as you suggest?

      Taking bribes from a ruthless dictator while Iraqi children died?

      Fact is the USA has always saved those WIMPY Europeans butts too many times as it is!

      Next time ya can all rot.

  • Unless these e-voting machines with no paper trail are eliminated......our Republic is finished. To all those Bush supporters out there, I hope you enjoy one party rule. Because if you disagree with them at some point, there will be no way to remove them from office.

    Think about that a while.

  • Hello friends,

    Yes the US "election" was indeed a fraud and you will continue to see such lies, until a restoration of constitutional law has been brought into play. Behind the scenes this is really happening and I would like to direct your attention to a couple of links that will explain more:

    http://www.nesara.us/doverpts04/October_31_2004.htm

    http://www.paoweb.com/sn110204.htm

    The National Economic Security And Reformation Act (N.E.S.A.R.A.) is the key to a much brighter future for all. And First Contact is the mechanism that changes our lives completely for the better. A resulting world free of political liars, banking cheats and corporate fat cats.

    The Dark Cabal that illegally stole both elections will be struck from office at the appropriate time and following this welcome event, the World’s people will enjoy sharing, justice, peace and a new technology, that will solve all current pollution transport and health isues.

    Kind regards to you all.

    I Am Omega

    Your Friend at the End of Time

  • I see most people here are idiots. the Democrats take your rights away because you are not smart enough to think for yourself. Republicans try to make you take care of yourself. That would cut into welfare peoples time I realize. That means you lazy people will have to actually work for a living. That was America used to be about. I know how hard it has been for people that need to be told how to live when no one is doing that now. I am sick of paying high taxes to watch a scum welfare case (that never works) drive better cars and have more expensive things then I have. Hey, I guess the dem supporters that do work like giving away their money and being herded like like cows. I am a strong supporter of the second amendment. Don’t you people think it was strange when Clinton was in there trying to ban guns, Kids in our schools were dying. Talk about brain washed programed kids. You people need to pull your heads out of your ass and wipe the shit off your ears.

    THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB RIGHTFULLY WON!

    • IT,S ANOTHER PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE EGO HATINGPERSON BASHING WELFARE ,UNEMPLOYED, LOOK AT ME I’M SO RIGHTEOUS .AND LOVING. KIND HELPING OTHERS WHEN THEIR DOWN.
      YOU AND YOUR KIND SHOULD NEVER SAY NOT ME!! I’LL ALWAYS HAVE AJOB AND WORK LIKE MY PARENT’S BEFORE ME ! NO ONE ! NO ONE TO DAY CAN SAY THAT TO- DAY IN THIS CLIMATE AS THE JOBS ARE FLYING OUT OF THE NORTHERN HEMIS FEAR ACROSS THE SEA!! THERE WILL BE NO MIDDLE CLASS ! REPEAT ! NO MIDDLE CLASS AT ALL! THE RICH DONT NEED YOU EITHER NOW ,THEY GO WHERE THE SLAVE LABOR IS OF CHILDREN AND PEOPLE WHO NEVER HAD ACHANCE TO EARN A little little MONEY TO KEEP THEIR FAMILYS.THEY DON’T TAKE A LOT OF HOLIDAYS, NOT AFRAID OF LONG HOURS. THEY MAY NOT LIKE IT NOW.BUT THEY WILL BE WORKING!! WILLYOU IN ANOTHER YEAR? I HOPE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO BUY THEIR PRODUCTS DEPENDS ON IF YOU ARE ON WELFARE, OR HAVE UNEMPLYMENT, PENSION,OR ORRR TAKE A MINIMUM WAGE IF THERE ARE ANY LEFT !! OH YOU COULD JOIN UP AND OR SOON BE DRAFTED! O HUMYOU WILL STILL HAVE TO HELP THE THE SYSTEM WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS ! EXCEPT NOW THIS IS A DANGEROUS JOB AS YOUR LIFE IS ON THE LINE AND YOU COULD BE WOUNDED AND NEED BEING CARED FOR ALLLL THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, NOT MUCH MONEY THERE COMING EITHER TO SUSTAIN YOU ASK ALL THE VETS OF TO DAYS WARS. 18 AND UP. YOU WILL BE FORGOTTEN AND LOST LIKE ALLTHE NONE WORKERS AND WELFARE PEOPLE AND EVEN VETERANS,THE GOVERNMENT ARE IN INTERESTED IN VERY YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WILL FIGHT AND OR DIE FOR THEIR CAUSE $$$$$$$ NOT FOR YOURS! DON’T WORRY EVEN THE UNEMPLOYED WELFARE YOUNG WILL BE CALLED, MALE OR FEMALE,CLUB FOOTS ONE EYE ,RETIRED ETC AS LONG AS YOU CAN HOLD AGUN OH YES !!EVEN YOUNG MOTHERS AND THE FATHERS TO- DAY OUR CHILDREN WILL BE IN THE CARE OF OUR GOVERNMENTS OR AND OUR GREAT FANATICLE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONAL SOCIETY ,ALL THIS WAY, ALL THESE YEARS,TO LEARN ALMOST HOW TO CARE FOR AND LOVE OTHERS , INSTEAD OF PRISONS ,STONING,HANGINGS TYRANNY ,BRUTALITYS. WE ALMOST MADE IT TO THE GOLDENS YEARS OF 1000. LET ME REMIND YOU! JESUS WAS LOVING .FORGIVING,AND PEOPLE WANTED TO FOLLOW HIM TO BE LIKE HIM HE NEVER HELD AGUN TO KILL ANY THING OR ABUSEDANYTHING HE FOR GAVE HE LOVED HIS MOTHER AND FATHER ANDHIS FAMILY AND RESPECTED WOMEN ANDMEN AND YET HE WAS POWERFUL AND WITHOUT AGREAT EGO.THERE WAS AREAL GENTLE MAN, AREALLLLLMAN.GOVERNMENTS WERE GREEDY IN THAT TIME AND PLANNED HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS IN FRONT OF ALL THE PEOPLE AND SAID YOU CAUSED THIS TO HAPPENFOR YOUR SINS! NOT THE GOVERNMENTS PEOPLES SINS? THEY WERE EXCLUDED FROM SINS? I DON’T THINK SO! JESUS ALREADY FOR GAVE THEIR SINS AND WAS HEALING THEM.FORGAVE ’FORGAVE ALWAYS.THAT IS TRUE LOVEAND TO DAY THEY STILL BIBLE THUMP THESE LIES. WE ARE IN HELL NOT GOING TO HELL FOR ETERNITY THE DAY YOU WERE BORN YOU WALK THROUGH THE VALLEY OF DEATH, HOW MANY TIMES SOME OF US COME CLOSE TO DEATH.OPERATIONS,ACCIDENTS.EVENALMOST MURDEREDAND SURVIVED.THIS IS THE HELL.PRIESTSAND MINISTERS KNOW THAT EVEN ISLAM MUSLIM, CONTROL FEARETC.THE BULLY ON THE BLOCK, THEY REMIND ME OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE OFF OF OTHERS FEARS FOR FREEHOUSING FREE MONEY ,DON’T PAY TAXESETC. ETC THEY GO TO SCHOOL TO BE COME THIS . AND TO LEARN THIS THEY ARE HUMANSLIKE YOU AND ME ITS ADAMN GOOD PAYING JOB LIKE THE GOVERNMENT AND IN BOTH OF THESE THERE IS POWER AND LOTS OF FREEMONEY. YOU WILL GO HOME TO AREAL LOVING FAMMILY WITHA LOVING MOTHER AND FATHER AND JESUS.MEN AND CHURCH DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT HER OR YOU TO EVEN KNOW’ YOU WILLKNOW ONE DAY.THIS WAY THE MEN HAVE THE POWERON EARTH FOR NOW.!!THIS IS THE NEWS OF THE ENLIGHTENMENT AND WE WLL KNOW HERSOON. DON’T BE SHOCKED THEY HAVE AMAN GOD THE MEN TELLING YOU THEY ARE THE CH OSEN BECAUSE MAN IS ALL OVER THE BIBLE. THE WORD HUMAN WAS TOO LONG TO PRINT AT THAT TIME AND THE BOOK WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO LARGE YOU CAN SPEAK TO HIM ANY TIME AND HE’LL BE LISTENING .BUT SOME TIMES IF YOU ASK IT TAKES AWHILE TO THINK ITOVER IS THIS GOOD FOR MY CHILD IF NOT OR IF YOU DO.? WE THANK GODOR MOTHER GOD IT DON’T MATTER THAT IS WHY WE ARE IN GODS SS IMAGENOT MANS ALONE.HOW AWFUL THAT WOULD BE. POWER AND MONEY HAVE MANY SECRETS TO HIDE. YOU MUST USE YOUR POWER TO NOT FEAR AND YOUR SOUL TO GUIDE YOU.HE KNOWS WE ARE ONLY HUMAN HERE AS THE BODY DIES WE JUST MOVE ON AND OVER TO HOME. NO MATTER HOW WE LIVE HERE IS TO LEARN ALL OF US ARE LOVED NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU GO TO CHURCH ,ITS AGROUP TO GATHER IN APLACE TO TALK AND PRAISE OUR HEAVENLY PARENTS AND NOT SCOURN, HATE ,FEAR,SCRUTINIZE HOW OTHERS ARE, THINK OF KILLING, MOLESTING OF ANY KIND ’HOWRICH YOU ARE AND THE POOR ARE NO BODY. YOU DIE ,I DIE WE WILL MEET AGAIN YOU MAY BE STRIPPED OF ALL YOUR POWER AND EGO, WE WILL BE ON THE SAME LEVEL AS SOULS, BUT MAYBE MY SOUL WILL HAVE RISEN HIGHER THAN YOURS ,CAUSE YOU WEREMEAN ERROGANT HATEFUL, KILLED ,NO RESPECT,LOVE FOR CREATURES OR HUMANS . EVERY THING HERE IS LIVING! THE GROUND YOU WALK ON,TREES .ON AND ON .THE EARTH IS AN ENTITY.!! THE SEAS , OCEANS WHALES DOLPHINS,FISHOF ALLKINDS. EVERY THING HAS ASOUL IS ALIVE AND IN ITS TIME DIES , FATHER MADE EVERY THINGAND MOTHER GAVE EVERY THING LIFE . HUMANS TO FATHER HELPS MAKE LIFE BE GIN AND MOTHER BREATHS LIFE INTO A FETUS UNTIL IT IS READY TO APPEAR IN THIS LIFE, SO MUCH WORK AND PAIN AND TEARS JUST TO DIE FOR OTHERS GREED AND SELFISH EGO. WE SHOULD ALL HAVE THE CHANCE TO GROW OLDAND DIE IN OUR OWN TIME . LIVE BY THE GUN AND DIE BY AGUN! UNFORTUNATELY THATIS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE TODAY . THE WEAPONS TO-DAY ARE NOT KILLING THEHOLDER SO MUCH ASTHE BEHOLDERAND INNOCENT. KILLINGS ARE NOT THE ANSWER. WE ALLHAVE THE RIGHT TOBE HERE.

  • IT’S FUNNY THE VOTE MACHINES THE DEMOCRATES WANTED ARE NOT WHAT THEY REALLY WANTED AFTER ALL !

  • Bush won! So what! It is more important to recognise that most who claim to be something are not. We must consider the true hero of his words, Pierre Salinger, the man who never won a bet. However upon Bush’s election in 2000 he moved to France as he said he would. A true man of his word. A hero amongst the Commie left.

    Unfortunately, those of similar small minds are not as inclined to leave this land of milk and honey. These folks who are so uncourageous, can put their heads down deep, between their legs and act as small as they possibly can. We will understand.

    Mundo Mike

  • A little bitter, are we?

  • “The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” — H.L. Mencken

    H.L. Mencken’s prophecy has come true...if ANY of you Bush fans are even smart enough to know who Mencken is. (Monkey trial ring a bell?) I’m only 11 and even I know that our current president and vice are morons. Just go to jibjab.com and click on "This Land". That should do the trick for all you Bush supporters, since the only thing you can seem to comprehend are comics, TV, or DVD’s.

  • Dear Chancellor,

    Considering your recent and most welcome elaboration of part of the planned worldwide debt relief programme I would suggest that the time has now come to place needed pressure on Blair to renounce his support of Bush, publicly. Time is fast running out for our world and the Dark Cabal in Washington continue to prevent the announcement of the U.S. Reformation Act (N.E.S.A.R.A.) that I’m confident you will fully support, once rolled-out globally.
    You have recently touched upon some of the preliminary debt relief programmes that once fully activated, will bring much prosperity to all nations and individuals across our wonderful planet. One of the necessary requirements in preparing the way for a roll-out of the planned international prosperity programmes, will be an official declaration of peace: To be thankfully announced by Bush’s successor, following the first re-instatement of constitutional governance since the notorious Emergency Powers act of 1933, which unconstitutionally placed America under Naval law.

    Following the needed demise of the illegal Bush regime, Blair will likewise have to be replaced, so that we can likewise prepare for global peace and follow this up by unconditional withdrawal from Iraq. Also we must back the Pound with precious metals and abolish income tax and unpaid debt: All to rectify years of banking fraud. The Rothschild/Rockefeller inspired banking fraud must end now with debt negation and the cessation of fiat currency. St Germain’s World Trust trillions, which matured in 2000, must immediately be shared with all peoples and nations. The IMF recognised Omega funding programmes must be activated.
    Act now, Mr Brown, to remove all supporters of the Bush/Cheney cabal in the British government. Blair and Hoon are making New Labour unelectable and putting millions of lives at risk.

    A most important decision at this critical time for you to make: And remember that many of us support worldwide debt relief and all facets of global sharing. We are fully behind good choices that lead to debt freedom and back policy that reclaims Common law. We will support all politicians that earnestly seek these same values.

    Good luck,

    Your Friend at the end of time,

    I Am Omega

    The One who veils and yet reveals