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Downing Street Minutes - Throw your congresscritter a life-saver
by Open-Publishing - Saturday 4 June 20054 comments
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STRATEGY SESSION: for when you call your Congressperson/Senator, who may have voted for the IWR, and, having done so, may be too fearful or ashamed to admit he or she made a mistake... MAYBE all they’re looking for is a graceful way out...
Please consider planting this seed.
Please hear me out -
ALL they have to say is TEN WORDS: "Because I TRUSTED my president. And he LIED to me."
Two little sentences. Five words per sentence. That’s ALL any of them have to say, if they voted for the IWR, if they bought into the fear and loathing and ghost stories being told by bush and his friends to scare people after 9/11, if they thought they were really trying to do what was correct for our country and to be patriotic and to "support our president" and give him every benefit of every doubt. They were being pressured BIGTIME to do this because of the climate at the time - straight after 9/11 - a climate of extreme fear that these lice exploited to achieve the goals they wanted. This is really not that complicated, and it’s a very clear-cut and simple way to save face as well - which is important when you consider that vanity and shame may be what’s really preventing any of this from moving forward at all. ALL THE DEMOCRATS AND ANYONE ELSE WHO FELL FOR IT HAVE TO SAY IS - "Because I TRUSTED my president. And he LIED to me."
It has the added benefit of being THE TRUTH. For a change.
Really. Could I be so bold as to ask people here on DU - when you call your reps, assuming they voted for the IWR or somehow otherwise enabled all this (or they know, do business with, or try to work with those who did), would you at least consider offering those ten words to their staffers? Offer it as a way out. Offer it as a face-saving statement for when these questions come up. YES, let’s be frank here, it’s passing the buck. It’s an excuse. But it happens to be a legitimate excuse - since it’s exactly what happened, AND it’s passing the buck to the exact place where the buck is supposed to stop: at the Oval Office.
Perhaps you’re represented by someone who really is trying to do good things, but has no face-saving way to step back into the light, and no way around the horrifying shame it means they have to face, in admitting they made such a stupid, grievous, negligent, thoughtless, impulsive, fear-motivated mortal sin of a mistake.
NOBODY likes to admit they’ve been had. NOBODY likes to admit they were suckered. NOBODY likes to face the fact that they’ve been played - played for patsies. NOBODY wants that for themselves. It takes bigger men and women than we’ve got representing us just now - to admit that freely and confess that openly. It’s just a suspicion of mine, but it’s bolstered by the reactions I’ve gotten from staffers of various congresspeople and senators (including but not limited to my own) when I present that ten-word solution. They react as though they’ve never thought of that before, and "...when you stop to think about it, hey - you know something? That actually makes sense. Hmmm... Gee. I never thought of it that way, but it’s, well, it’s - true... Gee, when you put it THAT way..."
I suspect strongly that if the proper, face-saving, and deftly-worded mea culpa is presented to them, like a talking point, SOME OF ’EM might actually use it, or start getting their minds around it, and maybe actually entertaining the thought. Maybe this might be enough to push some of the wavering ones over - those whose consciences have started to bother them over what’s happened, and who would LOVE a face-saving way out, something to say that will tell the truth, explain where they were at that time and what they were trying IN GOOD FAITH to do (’cause - remember back then, when the big drumbeat was that "we HAVE TO support OUR PRESIDENT!!!!!"). And if such a way out, that also happens to be THE TRUTH, is presented to them, it just might be the key domino that starts the whole row falling. It’s a tool to use to start getting them out of trouble, and absolving them of some of the blame and the guilt and the shame.
Truly, nobody can be faulted for trying to play along with a pResident who, at the time, many of them didn’t have a lot of reasons to distrust. It was still fairly early in the game. We’d just been attacked. We were out-of-our-minds with emotion and fear and anger and outrage and wanting to lash out against somebody, anybody, and make somebody pay. We were in raw-emotion mode, when there hadn’t been time enough to gain any perspective, and there was nothing but pure reactive-mode, non-rational, instinct stuff all over the place back then. SOMEBODY HAD TO DO SOMETHING. So this was what was presented to them, and it was presented to them in such a way that it sounded so legit. They were exploited and they gave this schmuck the benefit of the doubt without realizing at the time that he didn’t deserve it. They were railroaded. Now, what they need to do is STATE CLEARLY THAT THEY WERE RAILROADED.
I think there are some who would do the proper thing now if only they had one last little nudge: of a really good and useful tool that’s being plopped in their lap like a lifeline. For those who might stammer - "Good Lord, I don’t even know what to say... I wouldn’t even know what to say..." - YOU can say: "HERE! HERE’S what you can say. HERE’S something to say! It explains the state you were in at the time you made these decisions, and why you did so, and it’s the truth. It’s what happened with EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD who decided to support this war, even those with misgivings about it, who felt our hand was forced and that, well, we HAD to do something, and these are tough times and as Americans, we HAVE TO support our pResident. If he thinks that’s what we have to do, then we have to get behind him and trust him.
So they can say - "Well, we trusted him alright. He gave us every reason to trust him. We believed sincerely that it was our patriotic duty to do so, and he and all his pals told us this. We did it his way. We gave him the benefit of the doubt. And he led us down the garden path. All those reasons were lies. So yes, we fell for it. And it was a lie. And we were screwed." So what they get to say, basically, is that the real offender here is NOT themselves, but the guy who LIED THEM INTO THIS. It allows them to put the blame where it’s supposed to be. On bush.
TEN WORDS. All it takes. TEN WORDS.
I’m just trying to think strategically here. Face-saving is EVERYTHING with some people. Yes, it’s expedient. Yes, it’s not the purest motivation. But if it works, and it helps guide even a few people back into the light, what’s the harm? What have we got to lose? It might be JUST the key to push a few of the waverers over, and out of the Dark Side. If only they had the words to say...
Just a thought, anyway...
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Helpful list of lies...
Blair: March 2, 2003
"If military action proves necessary, it will be to uphold the authority of the UN and to ensure Saddam is disarmed of his weapons of mass destruction, not to overthrow him. It is why, detestable as I find his regime, he could stay in power if he disarms peacefully."
http://www.sundayherald.com/print31827
Bush: March 5, 2003
"We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq. But if Saddam Hussein does not disarm peacefully, he will be disarmed by force,"
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Mar/0309...
Saddam can stay if he disarms, Powell says
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002...
Rice and Powell Say that a Disarmed Saddam Could Stay in Power
http://www.intelmessages.org/Messag...
"How the United States should react if Iraq acquired WMD. The first line of defense...should be a clear and classical statement of deterrence—if they do acquire WMD, their weapons will be unusable because any attempt to use them will bring national obliteration."
– Condoleeza Rice, US National Security Advisor
January/February 2000 issue of Foreign Affairs
2/1/2000
"We are greatly concerned about any possible linkup between terrorists and regimes that have or seek weapons of mass destruction...In the case of Saddam Hussein, we’ve got a dictator who is clearly pursuing and already possesses some of these weapons. A regime that hates America and everything we stand for must never be permitted to threaten America with weapons of mass destruction."
– Dick Cheney, Vice President
Detroit, Fund-Raiser
6/20/2002
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."
– Dick Cheney, Vice President
Speech to VFW National Convention
8/26/2002
"There is already a mountain of evidence that Saddam Hussein is gathering weapons for the purpose of using them. And adding additional information is like adding a foot to Mount Everest."
– Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Response to Question From Press
9/6/2002
"We don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."
– Condoleeza Rice, US National Security Advisor
CNN Late Edition
9/8/2002
"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons."
– George W. Bush, President
Speech to UN General Assembly
9/12/2002
"Iraq has stockpiled biological and chemical weapons, and is rebuilding the facilities used to make more of those weapons. We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons — the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have."
– George W. Bush, President
Radio Address
10/5/2002
"The Iraqi regime...possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."
– George W. Bush, President
Cincinnati, Ohio Speech
10/7/2002
"And surveillance photos reveal that the regime is rebuilding facilities that it had used to produce chemical and biological weapons."
– George W. Bush, President
Cincinnati, Ohio Speech
10/7/2002
"After eleven years during which we have tried containment, sanctions, inspections, even selected military action, the end result is that Saddam Hussein still has chemical and biological weapons and is increasing his capabilities to make more. And he is moving ever closer to developing a nuclear weapon."
– George W. Bush, President
Cincinnati, Ohio Speech
10/7/2002
"We’ve also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas."
– George W. Bush, President
Cincinnati, Ohio Speech
10/7/2002
"Iraq, despite UN sanctions, maintains an aggressive program to rebuild the infrastructure for its nuclear, chemical, biological, and missile programs. In each instance, Iraq’s procurement agents are actively working to obtain both weapons-specific and dual-use materials and technologies critical to their rebuilding and expansion efforts, using front companies and whatever illicit means are at hand."
– John Bolton, Undersecretary of State for Arms Control
Speech to the Hudson Institute
11/1/2002
"We estimate that once Iraq acquires fissile material — whether from a foreign source or by securing the materials to build an indigenous fissile material capability — it could fabricate a nuclear weapon within one year. It has rebuilt its civilian chemical infrastructure and renewed production of chemical warfare agents, probably including mustard, sarin, and VX. It actively maintains all key aspects of its offensive BW program."
– John Bolton, Undersecretary of State for Arms Control
Speech to the Hudson Institute
11/1/2002
"Iraq could decide on any given day to provide biological or chemical weapons to a terrorist group or to individual terrorists...The war on terror will not be won until Iraq is completely and verifiably deprived of weapons of mass destruction."
– Dick Cheney, Vice President
Denver, Address To Air National Guard
12/1/2002
"If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world."
– Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Press Briefing
12/2/2002
"The president of the United States and the secretary of defense would not assert as plainly and bluntly as they have that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction if it was not true, and if they did not have a solid basis for saying it."
– Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Response to Question From Press
12/4/2002
"We know for a fact that there are weapons there."
– Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Press Briefing
1/9/2003
"I am absolutely convinced, based on the information that’s been given to me, that the weapon of mass destruction which can kill more people than an atomic bomb — that is, biological weapons — is in the hands of the leadership of Iraq."
– Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader
MSNBC Interview
1/10/2003
"What is unique about Iraq compared to, I would argue, any other country in the world, in this juncture, is the exhaustion of diplomacy thus far, and, No. 2, this intersection of weapons of mass destruction."
– Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader
NewsHour Interview
1/22/2003
"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."
– George W. Bush, President
State of the Union Address
1/28/2003
"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent."
– George W. Bush, President
State of the Union Address
1/28/2003
"We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more."
– Colin Powell, Secretary of State
Remarks to UN Security Council
2/5/2003
"There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more. And he has the ability to dispense these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massive death and destruction. If biological weapons seem too terrible to contemplate, chemical weapons are equally chilling."
– Colin Powell, Secretary of State
Addresses the U.N. Security Council
2/5/2003
"In Iraq, a dictator is building and hiding weapons that could enable him to dominate the Middle East and intimidate the civilized world — and we will not allow it."
– George W. Bush, President
Speech to the American Enterprise Institute
2/26/2003
"If Iraq had disarmed itself, gotten rid of its weapons of mass destruction over the past 12 years, or over the last several months since (UN Resolution) 1441 was enacted, we would not be facing the crisis that we now have before us...But the suggestion that we are doing this because we want to go to every country in the Middle East and rearrange all of its pieces is not correct."
– Colin Powell, Secretary of State
Interview with Radio France International
2/28/2003
"I am not eager to send young Americans into harm’s way in Iraq, or to see innocent people killed or hurt in military operations. Given all of the facts and circumstances known to us, however, I am convinced that if we wait, a threat will continue to materialize in Iraq that could cause incalculable damage to world peace in general, and to the United States in particular."
– Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader
Letter to Future of Freedom Foundation
3/1/2003
"Iraq is a grave threat to this nation. It desires to acquire and use weapons of mass terror and is run by a despot with a proven record of willingness to use them. Iraq has had 12 years to comply with UN requirements for disarmament and has failed to do so. The president is right to say it’s time has run out."
– Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader
Senate Speech
3/7/2003
"So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? I think our judgment has to be clearly not."
– Colin Powell, Secretary of State
Remarks to UN Security Council
3/7/2003
"Getting rid of Saddam Hussein’s regime is our best inoculation. Destroying once and for all his weapons of disease and death is a vaccination for the world."
– Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader
Washington Post op-ed
3/16/2003
"Let’s talk about the nuclear proposition for a minute. We know that based on intelligence, that has been very, very good at hiding these kinds of efforts. He’s had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
– Dick Cheney, Vice President
Meet The Press
3/16/2003
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
– George W. Bush, President
Address to the Nation
3/17/2003
"The United States...is now at war so we will not ever see what terrorists could do if supplied with weapons of mass destruction by Saddam Hussein."
– Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader
Senate Debate
3/20/2003
"Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes."
– Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Press Briefing
3/21/2003
"There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. And...as this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them."
– General Tommy Franks, Commander in Chief Central Command
Press Conference
3/22/2003
"One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites."
– Victoria Clark, Pentagon Spokeswoman
Press Briefing
3/22/2003
"I have no doubt we’re going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction."
– Kenneth Adelman, Defense Policy Board member
Washington Post, p. A27
3/23/2003
"We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
– Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
ABC Interview
3/30/2003
"We simply cannot live in fear of a ruthless dictator, aggressor and terrorist such as Saddam Hussein, who possesses the world’s most deadly weapons."
– Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader
Speech to American Israel Political Action Committee
3/31/2003
"We still need to find and secure Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction facilities and secure Iraq’s borders so we can prevent the flow of weapons of mass destruction materials and senior regime officials out of the country."
– Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
Press Conference
4/9/2003
"You bet we’re concerned about it. And one of the reasons it’s important is because the nexus between terrorist states with weapons of mass destruction...and terrorist groups — networks — is a critical link. And the thought that...some of those materials could leave the country and in the hands of terrorist networks would be a very unhappy prospect. So it is important to us to see that that doesn’t happen."
– Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
Press Conference
4/9/2003
"Obviously the administration intends to publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S. forces find — and there will be plenty."
– Robert Kagan, Neocon scholar
Washington Post op-ed
4/9/2003
"I think you have always heard, and you continue to hear from officials, a measure of high confidence that, indeed, the weapons of mass destruction will be found."
– Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Press Briefing
4/10/2003
"But make no mistake — as I said earlier — we have high confidence that they have weapons of mass destruction. That is what this war was about and it is about. And we have high confidence it will be found."
– Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Press Briefing
4/10/2003
"Were not going to find anything until we find people who tell us where the things are. And we have that very high on our priority list, to find the people who know. And when we do, then well learn precisely where things were and what was done."
– Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
Meet the Press
4/13/2003
"I have absolute confidence that there are weapons of mass destruction inside this country. Whether we will turn out, at the end of the day, to find them in one of the 2,000 or 3,000 sites we already know about or whether contact with one of these officials who we may come in contact with will tell us, ’Oh, well, there’s actually another site,’ and we’ll find it there, I’m not sure."
– General Tommy Franks, Commander in Chief Central Command
Fox News
4/13/2003
"We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them."
– George W. Bush, President
NBC Interview
4/24/2003
"There are people who in large measure have information that we need...so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country."
– Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
Press Briefing
4/25/2003
"We’ll find them. It’ll be a matter of time to do so."
– George W. Bush, President
Remarks to Reporters
5/3/2003
"I’m absolutely sure that there are weapons of mass destruction there and the evidence will be forthcoming. We’re just getting it just now."
– Colin Powell, Secretary of State
Remarks to Reporters
5/4/2003
"We never believed that we’d just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country."
– Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
Fox News Interview
5/4/2003
"I’m not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein — because he had a weapons program."
– George W. Bush, President
Remarks to Reporters
5/6/2003
"U.S. officials never expected that ’we were going to open garages and find’ weapons of mass destruction."
– Condoleeza Rice, US National Security Advisor
Reuters Interview
5/12/2003
"I just don’t know whether it was all destroyed years ago — I mean, there’s no question that there were chemical weapons years ago — whether they were destroyed right before the war, (or) whether they’re still hidden."
– Maj. Gen. David Petraeus, Commander 101st Airborne
Press Briefing
5/13/2003
"We said all along that we will never get to the bottom of the Iraqi WMD program simply by going and searching specific sites, that you’d have to be able to get people who know about the programs to talk to you."
– Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense
Interview with Australian Broadcasting
5/13/2003
"Before the war, there’s no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found."
– Gen. Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps
Interview with Reporters
5/21/2003
"It’s going to take time to find them, but we know he had them. And whether he destroyed them, moved them or hid them, we’re going to find out the truth. One thing is for certain: Saddam Hussein no longer threatens America with weapons of mass destruction."
– George W. Bush, President
Speech at a weapons factory in Ohio
5/25/2003
"Given time, given the number of prisoners now that we’re interrogating, I’m confident that we’re going to find weapons of mass destruction."
– Gen. Richard Myers, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff
NBC Today Show interview
5/26/2003
"They may have had time to destroy them, and I don’t know the answer."
– Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
Remarks to Council on Foreign Relations
5/27/2003
"For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on."
– Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense
Vanity Fair interview
5/28/2003
"The President is indeed satisfied with the intelligence that he received. And I think that’s borne out by the fact that, just as Secretary Powell described at the United Nations, we have found the bio trucks that can be used only for the purpose of producing biological weapons. That’s proof-perfect that the intelligence in that regard was right on target."
– Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Press Briefing
5/29/2003
"We have teams of people that are out looking. They’ve investigated a number of sites. And within the last week or two, they have in fact captured and have in custody two of the mobile trailers that Secretary Powell talked about at the United Nations as being biological weapons laboratories."
– Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
Infinity Radio Interview
5/30/2003
"But for those who say we haven’t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they’re wrong, we found them."
– George W. Bush, President
Interview with TVP Poland
5/30/2003
"You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons...They’re illegal. They’re against the United Nations resolutions, and we’ve so far discovered two...And we’ll find more weapons as time goes on."
– George W. Bush, President
Press Briefing
5/30/2003
"It was a surprise to me then — it remains a surprise to me now — that we have not uncovered weapons, as you say, in some of the forward dispersal sites. Believe me, it’s not for lack of trying. We’ve been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad, but they’re simply not there."
– Lt. Gen. James Conway, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force
Press Interview
5/30/2003
"Do I think we’re going to find something? Yeah, I kind of do, because I think there’s a lot of information out there."
– Maj. Gen. Keith Dayton, Defense Intelligence Agency
Press Conference
5/30/2003
"This wasn’t material I was making up, it came from the intelligence community."
– Colin Powell, Secretary of State
Press Briefing
6/2/2003
"We recently found two mobile biological weapons facilities which were capable of producing biological agents. This is the man who spent decades hiding tools of mass murder. He knew the inspectors were looking for them. You know better than me he’s got a big country in which to hide them. We’re on the look. We’ll reveal the truth."
– George W. Bush, President
Camp Sayliya, Qatar
6/5/2003
"I would put before you Exhibit A, the mobile biological labs that we have found. People are saying, ’Well, are they truly mobile biological labs?’ Yes, they are. And the DCI, George Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence, stands behind that assessment."
– Colin Powell, Secretary of State
Fox News Interview
6/8/2003
"No one ever said that we knew precisely where all of these agents were, where they were stored."
– Condoleeza Rice, US National Security Advisor
Meet the Press
6/8/2003
"What the president has said is because it’s been the long-standing view of numerous people, not only in this country, not only in this administration, but around the world, including at the United Nations, who came to those conclusions...And the president is not going to engage in the rewriting of history that others may be trying to engage in."
– Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Response to Question From Press
6/9/2003
"Iraq had a weapons program...Intelligence throughout the decade showed they had a weapons program. I am absolutely convinced with time we’ll find out they did have a weapons program."
– George W. Bush, President
Comment to Reporters
6/9/2003
"The biological weapons labs that we believe strongly are biological weapons labs, we didn’t find any biological weapons with those labs. But should that give us any comfort? Not at all. Those were labs that could produce biological weapons whenever Saddam Hussein might have wanted to have a biological weapons inventory."
– Colin Powell, Secretary of State
Associated Press Interview
6/12/2003
"Those documents were only one piece of evidence in a larger body of evidence suggesting that Iraq attempted to purchase uranium from Africa...The issue of Iraq’s pursuit of uranium in Africa is supported by multiple sources of intelligence. The other sources of evidence did and do support the president’s statement."
– Sean McCormack, National Security Council Spokesman
Statement to press
6/13/2003
"My personal view is that their intelligence has been, I’m sure, imperfect, but good. In other words, I think the intelligence was correct in general, and that you always will find out precisely what it was once you get on the ground and have a chance to talk to people and explore it, and I think that will happen."
– Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
Press Briefing
6/18/2003
"I have reason, every reason, to believe that the intelligence that we were operating off was correct and that we will, in fact, find weapons or evidence of weapons, programs, that are conclusive. But that’s just a matter of time...It’s now less than eight weeks since the end of major combat in Iraq and I believe that patience will prove to be a virtue."
– Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
Pentagon media briefing
6/24/2003
MS. BLOCK: There were no toxins found in those trailers. SECRETARY POWELL: Which could mean one of several things: one, they hadn’t been used yet to develop toxins; or, secondly, they had been sterilized so thoroughly that there is no residual left. It may well be that they hadn’t been used yet.
– Colin Powell, Secretary of State
All Things Considered, Interview
6/27/2003
"That was the concern we had with Saddam Hussein. Not only did he have weapons — and we’ll uncover not only his weapons but all of his weapons programs — he never lost the intent to have these kinds of weapons."
– Colin Powell, Secretary of State
All Things Considered, Interview
6/27/2003
"I think the burden is on those people who think he didn’t have weapons of mass destruction to tell the world where they are."
– Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary
Press Briefing
7/9/2003
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4 June 2005, 20:50
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Now that you read it—do you believe any politick in office-did not know? Sorry—they all knew it was a pack of lies.
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4 June 2005, 21:13
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Frost, Martin (D-TX) 31,300
Cantor, Eric (R-VA) 23,750
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Bennett, Robert (R-UT) 55,750
Wyden, Ronald (D-OR) 55,000
Brownback, Samuel (R-KS) 50,850
Shelby, Richard (R-AL) 38,500
Senate: Career
Daschle, Tom (D-SD) $533,635
Specter, Arlen (R-PA) 461,973
Lautenberg, Frank (D-NJ) 433,806
Durbin, Richard (D-IL) 326,671
Reid, Harry (D-NV) 318,801
Wyden, Ronald (D-OR) 255,562
Lieberman, Joseph (D-CT) 227,758
Boxer, Barbara (D-CA) 223,794
Dodd, Christopher (D-CT) 221,178
Conrad, Kent (D-ND) 201,939
Pro-Israel PAC Contributions to 2004 Congressional Candidates
2003-2004 Career
State Office District Candidate Party Status Contributions Total Committees
Alabama S Shelby, Richard* R I 38,500 193,325 A(FO)
H 2 Everett, Terry R I 6,000 15,000 AS, I
H 3 Rogers, Michael R I 5,000 8,000 AS
H 4 Aderholt, Robert R I 2,000 13,500 A
H 5 Cramer, Bud D I 1,000 44,800 A, I
H 6 Bachus, Spencer R I 2,000 12,500
H 7 Davis, Artur D I 6,500 68,067 B
Alaska S Murkowski, Frank R N 1,000 65,000
S Knowles, Tony* D C 5,150 5,150
S Murkowski, Lisa* R I 34,600 34,600
S Stevens, Ted R I 1,000 68,200 A(D)
Arizona S Kyl, Jon R I 1,000 78,525
H 8 Kolbe, James R I -1,000 43,000 A(FO)
Arkansas S Lincoln, Blanche* D I 30,500 43,527
H 3 Delay, Robert R C 4,000 5,000
H 4 Ross, Michael D I 2,500 14,000
California S Boxer, Barbara* D I 73,000 223,794 C, FR(NE)
S Feinstein, Dianne D I 1,000 114,842 A(D), I
H 5 Matsui, Robert D I 4,000 8,150 W
H 8 Pelosi, Nancy D I 20,650 57,450 I
H 12 Lantos, Tom D I 31,600 107,250 IR
H 18 Cardoza, Dennis D I 0 16,000
H 20 Costa, Jim D C 1,000 1,000
H 27 Sherman, Brad D I 4,500 43,330 IR
H 29 Schiff, Adam D I 6,500 23,417 IR(NE)
H 30 Waxman, Henry D I 1,000 33,832
H 32 Murray, Kevin D C 2,000 5,000
H 33 Watson, Diane D I 2,000 7,500 IR
H 36 Harman, Jane D I 11,500 86,271 I
H 39 Sanchez, Linda D I 4,450 8,450
H 47 Sanchez, Loretta D I 2,000 36,700 AS
H 52 Hunter, Duncan R I 3,000 36,350 AS
H 53 Davis, Susan D I 1,500 8,163 AS
Colorado S Campbell, Ben Nighthorse* R N 7,000 92,750 A(FO)
H 2 Udall, Mark D I 1,500 11,250
Connecticut S Dodd, Christopher* D I 38,250 221,178 FR
S Lieberman, Joseph D I 1,250 227,758 AS
Connecticut H 2 Simmons, Robert R I 2,500 14,500 AS
H 3 DeLauro, Rosa D I 2,000 43,400 A, B
H 4 Shays, Christopher R I 5,500 10,850 B
Delaware S Carper, Thomas D I 1,000 16,500
Florida S Byrd, Johnnie* R O 5,000 5,000
S Deutsch, Peter*# D O 18,000 45,941
H 1 Miller, Jefferson R I 1,500 2,500 AS
H 3 Brown, Corrine D I 3,000 8,600
H 5 Brown-Waite, Ginny R I 800 2,300 B
H 8 Keller, Richard R I 1,500 5,000
H 11 Davis, James, III D I 500 3,600
H 12 Putnam, Adam R I 1,500 4,500 B
H 14 Mack, Connie R O 1,000 1,000
H 17 Meek, Kendrick D I 4,000 7,000 AS
H 18 Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana R I 36,000 73,490 IR
H 19 Wexler, Robert D I 1,500 11,500 IR
H 20 Schultz, Debbie Wasserman D C 2,500 2,500
H 21 Diaz-Balart, Lincoln R I 5,000 10,000
H 23 Hastings, Alcee D I 2,500 23,850 I
H 24 Feeney, Tom R I 1,000 1,000
Georgia S Chambliss, Saxby R I 18,500 27,500 AS, I
S Majette, Denise*# D O 5,000 57,000 B
H 3 Marshall, James D I 1,500 8,000 AS
H 5 Lewis, John D I 2,000 69,250 B, W
H 6 Price, Thomas R O 500 500
Hawaii S Inouye, Daniel* D I 25,750 200,925 A(D, FO), C
H 2 Case, Edward D I 1,000 2,000
Idaho S Crapo, Michael* R I 16,000 30,000 B
Illinois S Durbin, Richard D I 2,500 326,671 A(D, FO), I
S Obama, Barack* D O 2,500 2,500
H 2 Jackson, Jesse, Jr D I 2,000 3,500 A(FO)
H 5 Emmanuel, Rahm D I 3,000 13,500 B
H 9 Schakowsky, Janice D I 1,000 14,750
H 10 Kirk, Mark R I 17,500 42,068 A(FO)
H 11 Weller, Jerry R I 2,000 26,400 IR, W
H 14 Hastert, J. Dennis R I 18,500 80,850 House Speaker, I
H 15 Johnson, Timothy R I 1,500 4,500
H 17 Evans, Lane D I 5,000 87,379 AS
H 18 Bean, Melissa D C 1,000 1,000
Indiana S Bayh, Evan* D I 56,500 81,750 AS, I
H 2 Chocola, Chris R I 1,500 8,000
H 5 Burton, Dan R I 3,000 70,000 IR
H 9 Hill, Baron D I 1,000 9,465 AS
Iowa S Grassley, Charles* R I 32,000 139,823 B
H 3 Boswell, Leonard D I 3,500 19,575 I
Kansas S Brownback, Samuel* R I 50,850 95,350 A, C, FR(NE)
H 3 Moore, Dennis D I 4,500 26,176 B
Kentucky S Bunning, Jim* R I 32,900 74,750 B
H 4 Clooney, Nick D C 2,000 2,000
H 4 Lucas, Kenneth D I 1,000 11,000
H 4 Thoney, Roger R C 1,000 1,000
H 5 Rogers, Harold R I 7,500 7,500 A
H 6 Chandler, Ben D O 13,500 13,500
H 6 Kerr, Alice Forgy R O 1,000 1,000
H 6 Miller, Jonathan D O 1,000 1,000
Louisiana S Terrell, Suzanne Haik* R O 15,000 15,000
S Vitter, David*# R O 3,500 18,000 A(FO), B
H 1 Jindal, Bobby R O 1,500 1,500
H 5 Alexander, Rodney D I 2,000 7,500 AS
Maryland S Mikulski, Barbara* D I 36,000 166,599 A(FO), I
H 2 Ruppersberger, C.A. D I 2,500 8,750 I
H 4 Wynn, Albert D I 1,000 10,250
H 5 Hoyer, Steny D I 37,500 92,275 A
H 8 Van Hollen, Chris D I 1,000 4,000
Massachusetts S Kennedy, Edward D I 1,000 67,120 AS
H 1 Olver, John D I 1,000 19,500 A
H 7 Markey, Edward D I 1,000 6,250
Michigan H 3 Ferguson, John, Jr. D C 1,500 4,500
H 7 Smith, Bradley R O 250 250
H 8 Rogers, Michael R I 1,500 2,250
H 9 Knollenberg, Joseph R I 1,000 23,750 A(FO)
H 11 McCotter, Thaddeus R I 5,000 10,000 B, IR(NE)
H 12 Levin, Sander D I 3,200 113,727 W
Minnesota S Coleman, Norm R I 8,000 34,980 FR(NE)
S Wellstone, Paul (dec’d) DFL N -1,000 18,472
H 2 Luther, Bill DFL C 1,000 27,913
Missouri S Bond, Christopher* R I 17,000 149,200 A(D,FO), I
S Talent, James R I 1,000 12,500 AS
H 3 Carnahan, John D O 1,000 1,000
H 4 Skelton, Ike D I 1,000 65,450 AS
H 5 Metzl, Jamie D C 2,000 2,000
H 6 Graves, Sam, Jr. R I 1,500 5,000
H 7 Blunt, Roy R I 11,600 30,850
Montana H Rehberg, Dennis R I 1,500 1,500
Nevada S Reid, Harry* D I 64,999 318,801 A(D)
H 1 Berkley, Shelley D I 35,100 201,455 IR(NE)
New Jersey S Lautenberg, Frank D I -272 433,806 C
S Torricelli, Robert D N -3,000 163,052
H 1 Andrews, Robert D I 4,000 35,250
H 3 Saxton, H. James R I 11,000 71,900 AS
H 4 Smith, Christopher R I 7,000 51,750 IR
H 6 Pallone, Frank, Jr. D I 5,150 50,550
H 7 Ferguson, Mike R I 8,000 14,500
H 9 Rothman, Steven D I 8,500 42,503 A(FO)
H 10 Payne, Donald D I 500 21,750 IR
H 11 Frelinghuysen, Rodney R I 1,000 6,250 A(D)
H 13 Menendez, Robert D I 15,875 35,483 IR
New Mexico S Domenici, Pete R I 1,000 50,600 A(D), B
H 1 Wilson, Heather R I -1,000 15,500 AS
New York S Schumer, Charles* D I 24,000 56,635
H 1 Bishop, Timothy D I 1,000 2,000
H 2 Israel, Steve D I 8,000 17,000 AS
H 7 Crowley, Joseph D I 23,000 41,500 IR(NE)
H 8 Nadler, Jerrold D I 1,000 19,000
H 9 Weiner, Anthony D I 1,000 14,000
H 14 Maloney, Carolyn D I 4,500 22,000
H 17 Engel, Eliot D I 19,000 137,918 IR(NE)
H 18 Lowey, Nita D I 20,650 109,738 A(FO)
H 20 Sweeney, John R I 1,000 2,000 A
H 24 Boehlert, Sherwood R I 1,000 6,500 I
H 25 Walsh, James R I 1,000 15,550 A
North Carolina S Bowles, Erskine* D O 13,500 23,500
S Burr, Richard*# R O 7,000 8,250
S Dole, Elizabeth R I 1,000 26,000 AS
North Dakota S Conrad, Kent D I 5,250 201,939 B
S Dorgan, Byron* D I 30,750 131,850 A(D), C
Ohio S Voinovich, George* R I 27,000 37,500 FR(NE)
H 3 Turner, Michael R I 0 1,250 AS
H 11 Jones, Stephanie Tubbs D I 1,500 4,500 W
H 12 Harmon, Phillip Ind C 1,000 1,000
H 13 Brown, Sherrod D I 2,000 28,750 IR
Oklahoma S Carson, Brad*# D O 1,000 11,000
H 4 Cole, Tom R I 1,500 5,000 AS
Oregon S Wyden, Ronald* D I 55,000 255,562 B, C, I
H 1 Wu, David D I 5,500 22,427
Pennsylvania S Santorum, Richard R I 2,000 47,750
S Specter, Arlen* R I 80,350 461,973 A(D, FO)
S Hoeffel, Joseph*# D C 2,000 24,454 IR(NE)
S Schwartz, Allyson* D C 1,000 3,500
Pennsylvania H 2 Fattah, Chaka D I -5,000 1,500 A
H 6 Gerlach, Jim R I 2,500 2,700
H 10 Sherwood, Donald R I 1,000 2,250 A
H 11 Kanjorski, Paul D I 1,000 16,600
H 13 Torsella, Joseph D O 750 750
H 15 Dent, Charles R O 5,000 5,000
H 17 Holden, Tim D I 1,000 9,500
H 18 Murphy, Tim R I -1,000 1,000
Rhode Island H 1 Kennedy, Patrick D I 2,000 27,650 A
H 2 Langevin, James D I 3,000 10,500 AS
South Carolina S DeMint, James*# R O 1,000 1,000
S Tenenbaum, Inez Moore* D O 2,500 2,500
South Dakota S Daschle, Tom* D I 70,500 533,635 I
S Thune, John* R C 1,000 6,480
S Johnson, Tim D I 1,000 159,837 A(FO), B
H At-L. Herseth, Stephanie† D O 8,000 12,900
Tennessee H 3 Wamp, Zach R I 2,000 2,000 A
H 4 Davis, Lincoln D I 1,000 3,000
H 6 Gordon, Barton D I 500 56,400
H 9 Ford, Harold, Jr. D I 1,000 10,000 B
Texas H 1 Sandlin, Max D I 2,000 2,000 W
H 2 Lampson, Nicolas D I 2,000 18,506
H 7 Culberson, John R I 1,500 1,500 A
H 11 Edwards, Chet D I 5,500 18,350 A, B
H 17 Stenholm, Charlie D I 1,000 3,250
H 22 DeLay, Tom R I 23,000 81,050 A
H 23 Bonilla, Henry R I 1,000 5,000 A(D, FO)
H 24 Frost, Martin D I 31,300 165,414
H 25 Bell, R. Christopher D I 13,500 15,000 IR(NE)
H 25 Doggett, Lloyd D I 1,500 4,500 W
H 28 Rodriguez, Ciro D I 17,000 17,000 AS
H 32 Sessions, Pete R I 1,000 2,000
Utah S Bennett, Robert* R I 55,750 97,750 A(FO)
H 1 Bishop, Robert R I 1,500 2,500 AS
H 2 Matheson, James D I 4,500 19,000
Virginia S Allen, George R I 2,000 10,400 C, FR
H 3 Scott, Robert D I 1,000 1,500 B
H 4 Forbes, J. Randy R I 1,500 2,000 AS
H 7 Cantor, Eric R I 23,750 74,980 W
H 8 Hanley, Kate D C 250 250
H 8 Rosenberg, Andrew D C 1,250 1,250
H 11 Davis, Thomas R I 1,000 16,000
Washington S Murray, Patty* D I 72,495 146,293 A, B
H 2 Larsen, Richard D I 1,500 8,500 AS
H 5 Barbieri, Donald D O 2,000 2,000
H 6 Dicks, Norm D I 1,000 23,850 A(D)
H 8 Alben, Alex D C 1,000 1,000
H 9 Smith, D. Adam D I 1,000 8,075 AS, IR
West Virginia H 2 Capito, Shelley Moore R I 1,500 4,250
Wisconsin S Feingold, Russell* D I 29,500 123,310 B, FR
H 2 Baldwin, Tammy D I 1,000 4,000 B
PRESIDENT
Bush, George W. R I 29,000 37,200
Dean, Howard D C 5,000 6,000
Gephardt, Richard D C 1,000 173,295
Kerry, John D C 2,000 5,752
Lieberman, Joseph D C 12,000 239,758
Sharpton, Rev. Al D C 2,000 2,000
Specter, Arlen R N 2,000 463,973
TOTAL for 2003-2004 Election Cycle
TOTAL 1978-2004 Funds to Congressional Candidates
TOTAL No. of Recipient Candidates, 1978-2004
$ 1,910,197
$39,532,465
1,897
KEY: The “Career Total” column represents the total amount of pro-Israel PAC money received from Jan. 1, 1978 through March 31, 2004. S=Senate, H=House of Representatives. Party affiliation: D=Democrat, R=Republican, Ref=Reform, DFL=Democratic Farmers Labor, Ind=Independent, Lib=Libertarian. Status: C=Challenger, I=Incumbent, N=Not Running, O=Open Seat (no incumbent). *=Senate election year, #=House member running for Senate seat, †=Special Election. Committees: A=Appropriations (D=Defense subcommittee, FO=Foreign Operations subcommittee, NS=National Security subcommittee), AS=Armed Services, B=Budget, C=Commerce, FR=Foreign Relations (NE=Near Eastern and South Asian Affairs subcommittee), I=Intelligence, IR=International Relations, NS=National Security, W=Ways and Means. “–” indicates money returned by candidate, “0” that all money received was returned.
4 June 2005, 21:17
????????????? are—where oh where does AIPAC jewish zionist lobby get the money to buy these scum balls?
could it be USA tax dollars? Does anyone know?
4 June 2005, 22:03
This has to be a hoax ( a deliberate, controlled leak)
1) The head of MI6 does not circulate memos like that to anyone.
2) The British government didn’t deny it.
3) The British government could have used a so called ’D notice’ to prevent publication and they DO when want to. Here is an example
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/ukcrypto/2001-October/017742.html
4) It was published in a Murdoch newspaper. That’s enough in itself.
5) The British government isn’t that stupid, they ran the world for 300 years and have never lost a war in their history except the so called American War of Independence against the French, Spanish and Dutch combined
6) All the US authorities have to do is deny it.
7) Congress would find it easier to get Elvis as a witness than the head of MI6.
cheers
Eric McCay