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Limbaugh worried: Attacks Kucinich exit plan "you don’t have a thing to say about this"
by Open-Publishing - Saturday 18 June 20055 comments
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RUSH: All right, get this.
A" conservative, a moderate and a liberal and a Libertarian teamed up in the House yesterday to prod President Bush to set a timetable to withdraw from Iraq.
This," as the Washington Post Mike Allen says, "strikes a rare tune of unity on a day when tensions about national security provoke marathon brawling on the floor.
" What do you mean, unity? Four members out of a 435-member body is unity? "The resolution sponsored by representatives Walter Jones, Jr., North Carolina, Neil Abercrombie, Democrat, Hawai’i, Dennis Kucinich, Democrat, Ohio, and Ron Paul, a Republican of Texas. The resolution calls for Bush to begin drawing down troops in Iraq by October 1st, 2006. But it does not set a date for complete withdrawal."
Why not next month? Why not August 1st? What is this, October 1st? That’s the month before the elections. (Laughing.) "Walter Jones, a congressman’s son who voted for the war sits in the Armed Services Committee represents the huger Marine base at Camp Lejeune says he believes that in the long run his constituents will think that we as a nation have the responsibility to take a fresh look at goals for Iraq. ’I think the president could really declare victory in the next six months if he wanted to.’" Okay, he could declare victory today. He could declare victory and get out any time you want. We have audio sound bites on this.
First up, Dennis Kucinich on CNN’s Inside Politics. Do you know what’s wrong with this, Mr. Snerdley, from a standard tactical position? What is wrong with this? Forget the politics of it, I don’t care about the politics? Exactly right! If you set a date certain that you’re going to start withdrawing people out of there, you know what’s going to happen? Insurgents will just go lie back and have some piña colada or whatever it is they drink. They’ll stop negotiating, they’ll stop any movement towards settlement if there is such a thing.
They’ll even roll back the hostilities. They’ll try to get us to move out even faster. The sooner that they think we’ll leave the better for them, if they know for certain we’re going to leave then they just wait for us to go and man they just run over and take over the country. Anybody remember Vietnam?? (a-a-ahem) So with that in mind here is dense Kucinich, one of the four representing the new unity in the House on inside conflicts yesterday. The host is CNN Tom Foreman said, "Do you think this thing can work? Will you make this happen?"
KUCINICH: Today with this resolution it’s the beginning of the end of the war in Iraq. Of course we can make it work because it’s a bipartisan resolution. The only way we can affect the beginning of the end of the war is to work with people on both sides of the aisle. That’s what this has done. You know, our troops have done everything that they can. It’s time to thank them and ask them to come home.
RUSH: Today with this resolution it’s the beginning of the end of the war in Iraq? What arrogance! Kucinich, you don’t have a thing to say about this. Not as one member of a group of four. You haven’t started the beginning of anything. The president is soon to make the rounds once again of the country. He’ll be making a bunch of speeches, powerful speeches on Iraq and why we’re there. It’s just one of these things, summertime comes along, people start thinking about driving around to grandma’s house, the beach or whatever, and so he’s going to remind people once again. It doesn’t sound like the president’s going to take the word of Dennis Kucinich and his other guys and look at it as the beginning of the end. So Foreman, anyway, Foreman said to Kucinich, "Look, many people out there — military families that I know — their immediate response is going to be, ’This is exactly what happened in Vietnam. The politicians got involved. They took control out of the hand of the generals, and it was disastrous.’"
KUCINICH: Well, the occupation is counterproductive. Our troops are being caught in the middle right now. Uh, I think that we owe it to them to thank them for their, uh, for their, uh, for their service to our country and to bring they will home. I think most of the American people today would agree that it’s time to the troops to come home. But what we’ve done is to put in place a plan that is actually in alignment with some of the metrics that the administration established. This plan would say that you have to start, uh, beginning to bring them home no later than October 1st, 2006. It’s a plan that provides — it’s a workable plan, it’s bipartisan, and it recognizes that the occupation at this point is counterproductive.
RUSH: It does no such thing. It "asserts" it. It asserts that four members of the House think this. It doesn’t establish or recognize that the occupation is counterproductive, and it isn’t an occupation to begin with, Congressman Kucinich. It’s a trick Democrat word thrown in there designed to fool people, but it is not an occupation whatsoever. [publisher’s insert "I wouldn’t be happy if I were occupied either" George W Bush]So once again, we’re learning just who among us has the stick-to-itiveness to see something that we starlight all the way through. Incipient that something you teach your kids: Finish what you start? Finish what you start. If you don’t teach your kids that, you might start. Finish what you start. Not these guys. "Oh, no, no, no! It’s counterproductive! We shouldn’t be there! We’re the evil United States of America! We’re causing the whole region to go south. We don’t need to be there at all. Counterproductive." The gentleman is clueless. He has no idea what he’s talking about. He’s just an anti-war lib — and the press, of course, eeeeats it up.
Forum posts
18 June 2005, 08:42
"Anybody remember Vietnam??"
How well we remember. Say, weren’t these the same excuses they were using back then, and didn’t they turn out to be misinformed?
It is interesting that Rush says Dennis doesn’t have a thing to say about it when he is a congressman and Rush is....well....anyway....does he know something we don’t?
The last poll I saw showed that 75% of the American people want to have an exit plan for Iraq and support this BIPARTISAN legislation so Dennis is speaking for we the people. Doesn’t Rush Limbaugh believe in democracy?
19 June 2005, 06:11
Rush is the one who doesn’t have a clue. Yeah, four members and the voice of American people will begin to vibrate through the streets of Washington very soon. Rush is still on drugs and the men who listen to Rush are so caught up in all his bs they can’t understand that this war was doomed from the beginning. You can’t expect the American people to continue to support this war.
20 June 2005, 02:09
This morning on Fox News Sunday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was asked if “the Bush administration fairly [can] be criticized for failing to level with the American people about how long and difficult this commitment will be?” Rice responded:
[T]he administration, I think, has said to the American people that it is a generational commitment to Iraq.
Vice President Dick Cheney, 3/16/03:
[M]y belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. . . . I think it will go relatively quickly. . . (in) weeks rather than months
Donald Rumsfeld, 2/7/03:
It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.
20 June 2005, 06:05
Limbaugh [it is reported] has great physical pain. Apparently this pain has caused him to run
afoul of the law in his schemes to obtain prescription pain killers. How his involvement with
the police and courts will turn out is not presently known. This is a serious situation for a man
who has succeeded in peddling "jingoism" disguised as patriotism. While this is a bad situation
for Limbaugh, his greater problem is being afflicted with "Tolstoy’s Syndrome" and passing
the mindset on to his unwary audiences. Overcoming this malady is very difficult, if not an
impossibility, for most victims of "Tolstoy’s Syndrome." Here is Tolstoy’s description of his
discovery: [Tolstoy’s Syndrome quote]:
"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives. [end of quote]
Scientists have discovered several important things associated with this Syndrome. One such
problem is the effects of "primacy in learning." Briefly, "PIL" impacts a person’s ability to learn
anew that which he has learned incorrectly[or falsely] already. Another problem for persons
with "Tolstoy’s Syndrome" is where their mindset is situated on the "continuum" of
"Concrete-Abstract Thinking." One salient feature of thinking ability is that Concrete Thinkers
can not understand Abstract reasoning while Abstract Thinkers can understand reasoning all
a long the continuum. This feature suggests that Concrete Thinking prevents a person from
even realizing his inability to understand that his reasoning is based on false beliefs. There
is much, much more to this subject for those interested in learning more about why a person
will continue to hold onto their false beliefs and continue to follow deceitful leaders.
20 June 2005, 20:49
With all his Hundreds of Millions in Media Money, this pompous ass is a true Patsy. He’s what we used to call a Dandy! A true snake with a Forked tongue. Thank goodness people will read below (as written by RUSH himself) and realize just how outrageous he has become (severely obtuse). He reminds me of the Odor that lingers at Garbage Dump!
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