With up to 400,000 dead in Asia, why keep killing people in Iraq?

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• 31 December 2004, 21:07

  Where did you get 400,000 dead in Asia? Are you referring to the tsunami casualty count? If so, the last time I checked, it was approaching 120,000 And, where did you get the thousands of Americans killed in the tsunami? The State Dept. has the number at 17. Did you mean the five to six thousand Europeans that are still missing?

  Enough real people are dead, both in Asia and in Iraq. Why make up bigger numbers?

  • 31 December 2004, 23:40

    There are news reports now coming out that suggest that up to 400,000 may be dead in the Aceh province in Indonesia alone. Previously inaccessible parts of the country are being contacted and whole towns and villages have been levelled, islands washed away, etc... Do a google news search for +400,000 and you should find them.

  • 1 January 2005, 12:52

    I found one comment on Margot B World News, attributued to bernama.com quoting a Dr H. Rusdihardjo, Indonesian ambassador to Malaysia, who said that there MAY BE up to 400,000 dead in Aceh Province - "MAY BE" dead is not the same as "ARE" dead.

    Again, why take the leap in reporting AS FACT what is only one man’s opinion? Many of us are inclined to look with a jaundiced eye what is reported in conventional media as being Not True, but in this case, reporting as fact what is not true is no different. If it turns out that this 400,000 number is accurate, then so be it. But, can we at least wait until that time comes to pass? Right now, the number is 135,000.

• 31 December 2004, 23:49

  It never fails. Lefties can’t even resist using dead bodies to make cheap points.

  • 1 January 2005, 04:57

    It never fails, some one always enters coments like the one above everytime there is an article about compassion for the people of Iraq. Just doesn’t enter into their thinking, about what being a good Christian or good American means. Its not all politics, it is sometimes just caring about others who we are harming every day.

  • 1 January 2005, 05:03

    We earthbound misfits have been showed again what we are. Instead of emerging all the power to get life for all
    of us more pleasant, we mess around with our limited resources.
    I don’t like these different events: Iraq and Asia linked together. War is the choice of people, these human beings
    in Asia didn’t have much of a choice, except run or die.

  • 3 January 2005, 03:50

    Remember, WE, are not harming the people in Iraq. W., Cheney, Rummey, Powell, etc.. have ALL the blood on their hands! God forgive them, they know not what they do!

  • 3 January 2005, 06:27

    Caring has nothing to do with Christians...haven’t you noticed that they are bible thumping for their bloodthirsty God, who kills and maimes and destroys at will and they follow along behind him doing his sirty work every chance they get...what a religion.

• 1 January 2005, 21:58

  Well the killing will continue unless all good people stand up and speak out as well as take action. The name of the game is FEAR in almost everything now....the USA is on it’s path to a police state (as is the UK and rest of the world is following we will do anything to accept the false sense of security to fight the so called war on terror that includes giving all our freedom and rights away and to be on camera everywhere we go Big Brother is everywhere George Orwellian’s prophecy was correct the UK lives it day in day out with (Big Brother) CCTV camera all over the NSA GCHQ spy on us constantly they monitor all electronic communications from the UK to all over the world that’s all faxes, emails, phone calls, cell phone calls, you name it) it has been for a long time now and it’s patriot acts show how the U.S. constitution is being shredded apart people are losing their rights peaceful protesting is now classed as an act of terror as is food fights under patriot act I & II and several anti terrorism bills.

  Look up national records for your research to see that the Bush family has had Nazi links and funded World War II and money laundered using major US companies with companies in Nazi Germany while helping build the war machine the USA funded companies that killed slaves in concentration camps with lethal gasses these companies are now Biotech companies that genetically engineer your food I cannot cover all of this topic here because it would be literally hundreds of thousands of words if not millions. It is called the New World Order and is a real conspiracy just as the attacks on 911 was to enable the USA access all areas to secure areas that would fight against the NWO more than others and at the same time to steal the rest of the worlds natural resources. Remember if we all wanted to live like the US do then we would need 5 more planets to sustain us for all the resources.

  All the Nazis are in the USA now and even the UN are part of the New Word Order UN agencies such as UNICEF, WHO etc have already had their fair share of controlling world populations just a a test out trial they made some genetically engineered vaccine to make people infertile but only targetted certain races all of this has been proven by several universities in the UK and USA as well as independent Labs.

  There are many websites you can do your research on millions in fact and a lot are attacked by hackers that work for the feds and IBM etc. Many US companies are Nazi companies do your research most link back to funding WWII and now they want our population reduced by 80% certain politicians that are muppets for the NWO even speak of these things Bush and Kerry are both part of the same cult Skull & Bones that originated from Nazi Germany that was once part of their death squad they now sacrifice a child each year as part of their ceremonial cult evidence exists in video footage to prove this.

  International Laws have already been changed by the USA since 911 but recently laws in Iraq have been changing fast from farmers having to buy and sow new seeds every year and not use thier saved seeds which suits Nazi biotech companies and paves way for them to new laws that will allow the U.S. Military to kill Iraqi’s in Fallujah if they do not show their Biometric ID cards when they travel around the city.

  Like I say do look up national records and decent websites on the net then at least you can say you tried to disprove my claims that I share with hundreds of millions world wide rather than just shrug them off and laugh like you are brainwashed to do so.

  Some websites will be better than others at providing information and evidence while others will not cover all areas of the issues.

  http://www.infowars.com

  http://www.prisonplanet.com

  http://www.prisonplanet.net

  http://www.prisonplanet.tv/members/video/world_trade_center_seven.htm

  http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html

  http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO

  http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/290904buchanantranscript.htm

  http://www.freeworldalliance.com

  http://www.bilderberg.org

  http://www.new-enlightenment.com

  Go on do some nice web searches - millions of websites waiting that you won’t find in the controlled Nazi mainstream media.

  • 1 January 2005, 22:35

    Someone asked me to post my links again here they are.

    Hello, I hope some who view these web links will research into this to come to their own opinions and conclusions.

    Here are the web links again, remember to explore the websites in full. It is always a good idea to do your own web searches so you will find exactly what you are looking for, I always get multiple sources of news and make sure I get independent sources (as you know the Internet can be useful for this) to compare to the mainstream media, I see more news on the net than in mainstream media most is censored and controlled by corporate giants and government agencies so that it never reaches mainstream media. I awaited to see a protest of 70,000 which is larger than most protests but not by far big as others that reach 1 million plus but the point is it would have usually got into mainstream media with the protest being in London but because it was a protest against GE food it never even reached any mainstream media, absolutely nothing.

    I can’t guarantee that the web links I have provided are the best for sources of factual information that is available on websites that uncover the truth but it is a start for people who are looking for the truth and cold hard facts.

    http://www.cuttingedge.org

    http://www.freeworldalliance.com

    http://www.infowars.com

    http://www.prisonplanet.com

    http://www.prisonplanet.net

    http://www.prisonplanet.tv/members/video/world_trade_center_seven.htm

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/290904buchanantranscript.htm

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html

    http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/guantanamo_torture_continues.htm

    http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/guantanamo_secret_cia_center.htm

    http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/guantanamo_prisoner_experiments.htm

    http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/guantanamo_abuse_bolstered.htm

    http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO

    http://www.propagandamatrix.com

    http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm

    http://www.freeworldalliance.com

    http://www.bilderberg.org

    http://www.new-enlightenment.com

    Did any of you hear about that protest in Havana, Cuba showing a sign of photos of the torture the U.S. military had done in Iraq and saying Nazi USA?

    http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=4817

    The Nazi USA reference in this protest could not have been more truthful. When it comes to conspiracies the only ones some people may believe are ones such as mind control because even our governments admit they are factual only because soldiers have been brainwashed with them decades ago during the Korean war. The CIA has done thousands of mind control experiments in recent years in the USA and EU countries such as Sweden, UK and Switzerland but then lets think about it - who was it who formed the CIA back in the day? WWII Nazis formed the CIA (with permission from the FBI) that is who, oh and err the CIA even admit they have Nazi conections just as explicitly as they used to advertise on their website a few years back that they deal in cocaine.

  • 2 January 2005, 00:42

    Tsunami Relief

    Almost 7 days later Aid is finally reaching many in need of food, fresh water and shelter which will hopefully limit the risk of wide epidemics of disease and limit any more deaths as much as possible.

    Despite early criticism western countries have now donated enormously the USA have donated huge amounts now and the UK donated over 60 million in two days excluding government funding, many huge corporate giants have also donated large amounts to the Tsunami Relief including Exxon Mobil which enjoy polluting on a daily basis and still deny global climate change exists.

    Even though this recent disaster was triggered by an earthquake we have to face climate change (unless we do it will be irreversible in less than 50 years time so unless we take real action it will be too late, some scientists already believe it is irreversible because the icecaps are melting too fast in Antarctica and Greenland as well as Canada) it is all over and I think we will see many more natural disasters like this in the future in many areas of the globe. Australia has temperatures of 37 degrees Celsius at the moment (India now has summer temps of over 40c that kills many each year and France had a hot summer in 2003 followed by flooding and then droughts) and in Shanghai it has been snowing which is highly unusual, I recall it snowing a few years ago in Argentina also and in several other hot countries. As long as Bush is in power in the USA he will have disregard for nature and has said time and time again the U.S. will not join the Kyoto Protocol but much more reduction of emissions are needed to reduce global climate change around 80% which is possible if clean, green, efficient and durable technologies are used which have been available for many decades now but are held back by huge oil giant corporations and the nuclear industry which world government supports when they know hydrogen power is ten times more cost effective and more efficient, the alternative renewable sources are almost unlimited, there are many to chose from.

    No matter how much we speak up are governments will not listen to us, citizens have opposed genetically engineered food for as long as ten years or more yet EU countries still have not banned it because they want to keep the USA happy, corporate giants have more control and more rights than any citizen in any Nation, hundreds of millions were against the illegal war in Iraq but governments ignored us and still went to war but there are hidden agenda as to why they did and I do not just mean oil - yet again it is related to the New World Order in more ways than one.

  • 2 January 2005, 02:16

    The US Military and the State Department were given advanced warning. America’s Navy base on the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean was notified.

    Why were fishermen in India, Sri Lanka and Thailand not provided with the same warnings as the US Navy and the US State Department?

    Why did the US State Department remain mum on the existence of an impending catastrophe?

    With a modern communications system, why did the information not get out? By email, telephone, fax, satellite TV... ?

    It could have saved the lives of thousands of people.

    The earthquake was a Magnitude 9.0 on the Richter scale, among the highest in recorded history. US authorities had initially recorded 8.0 on the Richter scale.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO412C.html

  • 3 January 2005, 06:42

    It was God’s and Bush’s little secret, no fun to watch if there are no victims.