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President Bush offered encouragement to war-weary Iraqis on Monday but acknowledged they have paid a heavy price _ 30,000 dead _ as a result of the U.S.-led invasion and its bloody aftermath.
As Iraqis began voting in parliamentary elections, Bush said that no country has formed a democracy without "challenges, setbacks and false starts."
"There’s still a lot of difficult work to be done in Iraq," the president said, "but thanks to the courage of the Iraqi people, the year 2005 will be recorded as a turning point in the history of Iraq, the history of the Middle East and the history of freedom."
Bush unexpectedly invited questions from the audience and immediately was asked about the number of Iraqi casualties in the war.
"I would say 30,000 more or less have died as a result of the initial incursion and the ongoing violence against Iraqis," the president said. "We’ve lost about 2,140 of our own troops in Iraq."
White House counselor Dan Bartlett said later that Bush’s estimate of the number of Iraqis killed was not an official figure but that the president was simply repeating public estimates reported in the media.
Another questioner challenged the administration’s linkage of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks with the Iraq war. Bush said that Saddam Hussein was a threat and he was widely believed to have weapons of mass destruction _ a belief that later proved false.
"I made a tough decision," Bush said. "And knowing what I know today I’d make the decision again. Removing Saddam Hussein makes this world a better place and America a safer country."
The U.S. government’s Arabic-language television service, Allure, carried Bush’s remarks live, but it was not shown on Al-Jazeera or Al-Arabiya or any of the Iraqi television stations. Most Iraqis disapprove of the presence of U.S. forces in their country, yet they are optimistic about Iraq’s future and their own personal lives, according to a new poll.
More than two-thirds of those surveyed oppose the presence of troops from the United States and its coalition partners and less than half, 44 percent, say their country is better off now than it was before the war, according to an ABC News poll conducted with Time magazine and other media partners.
"Success will help the image of the United States," Bush said. "Look, I recognize we got an image issue, particularly when you’ve got Arabic television stations _ that are constantly just pounding America, saying America is fighting Islam,'
Americans can’t stand Muslims,’ `This is a war against a religion.’"
"We’ve got to, obviously, do a better job of reminding people that ours is not a nation that rejects religion. Ours is a nation that accepts people of all faiths, and that the great strength of America is the capacity for people to worship freely.
"It’s difficult," the president said. "I mean, their propaganda machine is pretty darn intense, so we’re constantly sending out messages. We’re constantly trying to reassure people."
The Pentagon has acknowledged paying Iraqi journalists and newspapers to print favorable articles. Bush also has appointed Karen Hughes, a longtime confidante, as U.S. undersecretary of state for public diplomacy. Her mission is to reverse anti-American sentiment around the world.
Bush said he came to Philadelphia to speak about democracy in Iraq because this city was the birthplace of the U.S. Constitution. Pennsylvania also is the home state of a leading Iraq war critic, Democratic Rep. John Murtha, who planned to speak on Bush’s heels and repeat his call to bring the troops home from a fight he says has become too violent and out of control.
"This week’s election won’t be perfect," Bush said.
"Iraqis still have more difficult work ahead, and our coalition and a new Iraqi government will face many challenges," he said.
Among challenges that the president said remain: ensuring Iraqi security, forming an inclusive government, encouraging Iraqi reconciliation and maintaining democracy.
"The past 2 1/2 years have been a period of difficult struggle in Iraq, yet they have also been a time of great hope and achievement for the Iraqi people," Bush said. "Just over 2 1/2 years ago, Iraq was in the grip of a cruel dictator who had invaded his neighbors, sponsored terrorists, pursued and used weapons of mass destruction, murdered his own people and, for more than a decade, defied the demands of the United Nations and the civilized world.
"Since then, the Iraqi people have assumed sovereignty over their country, held free elections, drafted a democratic constitution and approved that constitution in a nationwide referendum," the president said.
Bush acknowledged that things in Iraq did not always go as planned. He said U.S. officials have changed strategy when events on the ground warranted a different approach.
(AP)
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14 December 2005, 13:32
Much more than 30,000 Iraqis civilians were killed by the invasion !
Mr Bush has announced in a recent speech that about 30,000 Iraqis have been killed after the invasion of Iraq. This number is very little compared with the actual number of civilians killed in Iraq. The reasons are:-
1- The USA troops kill from the Iraqis and do not bother to keep an account of their killing. General Tomy Franks was quoted to say: "We do not do body count".
2- In the first few months after the invasion of Iraq there were no real government in Iraq, due to massive bombing which has devastated the infrastructure of many Iraqi establishments. Health offices were not in a position to give accurate statistics of the killed civilians.
3- The prevailing chaos in the first year after the invasion has forced Iraqis to simply bury their dead victims without reporting to hospitals or local authorities.
4- Those who were killed by USA troops in the resistance operations, were usually buried by their relatives with no reports to hospitals. The relatives are usually too terrified to report the death, so that the USA troops will not follow their families and imprison their relatives. In the first few months of 2005, Baghdad hospitals used to bury 260 unidentified dead person per month.
5- Civilians at small towns and villages, that are killed by American air raids are usually buried without being reported to hospitals.
Therefore, the 30,000 deads may represent those who were killed in the main incidents only and at large towns in Iraq but not all the civilian victims of the invasion. In a report by "Unknown NEWS" 30,000 members of the Iraqi army were killed, and 90,000 were injured in the first few weeks of the invasion. The study published by the LANCET JOURNAL estimated a 100,000 more deaths caused by the intervention in IRAQ and during the first 18 months after March 2003. In light of the above, Mr Bush is only trying to reduce the extent of the war crimes caused by his arrogant policies in Iraq.
Mohamed Younis
Mosul / IRAQ
15 December 2005, 21:05
Bush murdered those people with Shock and Awe, Bunker Busters, gunships, cruise missiles, giant tanks and cannon and rapid fire guns. He would joyfully kill twice as many because, for him, they are evil Muslims, with a false god, false Koran, false beliefs and false priests. His fundamentalist followers, like Falwell and Robertson, see no fault in killing Muslims wholesale, nor does Bush. He doesn’t feel any regret. When he takes "responsibility" what exactly did he take??? Will he make up for it by giving some kids gum or candy in some photo-op? Does he tell all the orphans he created, "get over it?" He is the worst president we have ever had, the most dangerous leader, and is still wanting to invade Syria and Iran. Check it out!