March 15 Storm the White House

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• 1 March 2006, 07:54

  get ready the next government orchestrated 911 will send us into martial law and all desenters will be rounded up for civilian forced labor camps. If you can operate a shovel you got a job otherwise it’s off to the glue factories.

  • 1 March 2006, 09:28

    Glue factories? Not the gas chambers? The trick is, say the 15th and then do it on the 14th. Catch them as unprepared as they pretended to be on 9/11. Otherwise, they will be waiting for you.

  • 5 March 2006, 03:26

    so you’re telling me my glue stocks will rise?

• 1 March 2006, 13:37

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  Soldiers in Iraq know they are fighting and dying for a lie
  Posted at March 1, 2006 02:26 AM in The Rant .
  By DOUG THOMPSON

  Nearly three-quarters of the American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should withdraw within the next year and 29 percent feel we should get the hell out of the war immediately, a poll of military personnel serving in country reveals.

  This jives with emails I’ve been getting from soldiers over the past several months and it confirms that those serving on the ground in the war don’t share the rosy optimism painted by the Bush administration about the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

  "Man, this gig has FUBAR written all over it," says a Marine who has served in Iraq for seven months. "Morale is the pits and nobody in our unit thinks we should be here."

  The poll, conducted by Zogby International, offers a rare look into the mindset of fighting men and women serving in a war zone. That mindset is, to say the least, reflective of growing American unrest over a war based on false information and outright lies.

  Among the findings by Zogby:

  Only 23 percent agree with the President’s position that we should "stay in Iraq as long as needed."
  85 percent of those surveyed felt they were fighting the war "to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the 9-11 attacks," although the 9-11 commission in 2004 found "no credible evidence" that Iraq had cooperated with al-Qaida in the attacks.
  68 percent said they believed that the real reason for the war was simply to remove Saddam Hussein from power.
  40 percent say the Iraqi insurgency is mostly homegrown, with very little foreign involvement - a direct contradiction of claims by the Bush administration.
  55 percent flatly oppose using torture and other harsh interrogation methods on prisoners.
  Three quarters of the 944 troops interviewed by Zogby had served multiple tours and had a longer exposure to the conflict: 26% were on their first tour of duty, 45% were on their second tour, and 29% were in Iraq for a third time or more.

  "Ninety-three percent said that removing weapons of mass destruction is not a reason for U.S. troops being there," says John Zogby, President and CEO of Zogby International. "Instead, that initial rationale went by the wayside and, in the minds of 68% of the troops, the real mission became to remove Saddam Hussein."

  In another direct contradiction of stated White House policy, just 24% said that "establishing a democracy that can be a model for the Arab World" was the main or a major reason for the war.

  Zogby interviewed the 944 soldiers at various locations throughout Iraq. Three quarters of the troops had served multiple tours and had a longer exposure to the conflict: 26% were on their first tour of duty, 45% were on their second tour, and 29% were in Iraq for a third time or more.

  The Pentagon did not cooperate with Zogby in the survey and is trying to downplay the significance of the soldiers’ responses but offered conflicting responses. In one released statement, the military brass said the troop comments were not valid because "troops in a combat zone are likely to express negative views of their situation."

  Then Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Venable tried a different spin.

  "The poll’s findings certainly aren’t reflective of the attitudes we see displayed by the majority of troops, who are performing in a remarkable manner in a combat situation far from home," Venable said. I asked Venable’s office for any polls the military had conducted on troop attitudes and morale and they admitted they had not done any surveys but added that they based their conclusions on reports from "commanders in the field."

  Emails received almost daily from soldiers in the field confirm Zogby’s findings and say Pentagon claims of success and high morale are, as one National Guardsman said: "Pure unmitigated bullshit."

  Their emails, and now Zogby’s findings, show these men and women who put their lives on the line day in and day out do so for a war they fully know was based on false pretenses and they are fighting and dying for a cause that doesn’t exist.

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  I think most of us know that Iraq was invaded for reasons to do with the projection of American power around the globe, and in particular in the middle east, as recommended by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) during the Clinton years.

  But another reason was that Saddam had plans to sell all Iraq’s oil for euros, thus threatening the dollar as the world’s unofficial reserve currency - something calculated to make the rich and powerful very nervous, since the dollar might decline in value as much as two thirds were it to be replaced by the euro as the medium of exchange for oil sold on world markets, and as the world’s reserve currency.

  Iran plans to open an oil bourse - an oil stock-exchange - on March 20th, that will trade oil only for euros, meaning that all Iran’s oil will be sold for euros.

  So Ahmadinejad will likely suffer the same fate as Saddam for having the effrontery to sell oil for euros, for this could be the catalyst for other oil producers - like Russia and Venezuela - wishing to tweak the American eagle’s tail, to do the same.

  So it seems there will have to be regime change in Iran, by fair means or foul, and quite soon

  Posted by Richard J at March 1, 2006 03:59 AM

  Richard J’s on the button, perhaps those energy meetings with Dick that are so secret mean that this isn’t Dubya’s war after all but Huston’s fault . . . well, at some point he is going to get called out on this mess, I can’t wait for his excuses to start.

  Posted by JohnB at March 1, 2006 04:29 AM

  BURN BABY BURN

  Posted by yes at March 1, 2006 04:59 AM

  Diversion
  Diversion is the name of the Game. WMD’s, liberation of Iraqi people, spreading democracy in the Middle East are all diversions for the real purpose of armed conflict. America is establishing permanent military bases and military strongholds in the Middle East for the protection of corporate interest relating to energy and trade. The greater the demand for oil and resources by the industrialized countries in the world the greater the potential for profits for those who can control the movement of resources and this is the real purpose behind the American government’s activities. Multi-national corporations that are manufacturing and selling products worldwide and are in control of the most powerful military on earth are setting up their plan for the future. The horrible fact is: these corporations are loyal only to the dollar and are more then willing to sacrifice the lives of our military men and the wealth of the United States of America.

  Posted by Bruce at March 1, 2006 05:02 AM

  Amen, Richard, you hit the nail squarely on the head. Unfortunately our addiction to foreign reserves of US cash continues to grow with each passing year. The combination of the trade imbalance ($700,000,000,000) and government borrowing ($400,000,000,000) means that we must have a cool trillion dollars of foreign investment each year simply to balance the nation’s economy.

  This is also the reasoning behind the Bush administration’s stubborn defense of the DB World cargo ports deal.

  The question is not ’if’ but ’when’ the supremecy of the dollar will begin to unravel; this situation cannot be sustained forever.

  And, I’d like to thank every president - dem and rep alike - since Richard Nixon for getting us into this predicument.

  This war exsists because of one thing, money, as in billions, as in no-bid contracts, as in 8.8 billion given to government contractors just dissapearing (ie;60 minutes report),as in the largest defense budget ever, I believe that halliburton is rotten to the core, It seems that the problems are just so obvious, from the reasoning to go there in the first place, to this insanity that we are making anyone safer.

  Me personaly, I don’t want Mr.Bush protecting my family, my moral compass and that of Mr.Bush’s are worlds apart, and never shall the twain meet.

  Excellent. We know the reasons. They know we now know the reasons. Their knowedge that we are aware of the real reasons has done nothing to improve the situation. What must be done to correct the situation? More talk, more letters, more blogs, what?

  We need to get the Republicans out of Congress this November and put the heat on Dems to begin the impeachment process on Boy George. And we really need to let those elected oficials know that we mean business! Get your act together or your ass is out the door!! I truely believe many in Congress feel they have total "job security". It’s time we make them wake up and smell the coffee.
  jim

  I still say the fair and just way to solve all the problems in the world are to lock up everyone associated with the bush family and this fiasco that our congress are deeply complicit in and use their own inhumane laws against them for the next 25 years before we reevaluate their status.Imagine the revenue that could be generated by marketing these criminals on a ppv humiliation series daily for the next 25 years.The real marketing strategy though would be in using these thugs by selling lottery chances to be the lucky daily winners that get to wipe the smirks and sneers off these jerks and queers in dc. 20 trillion annually , I tell you , if only 5% of world population participated, I think alot more than that would enjoy watching this daily show.Talk about justice. This should be national policy.

  • 1 March 2006, 21:30

    Do you know we are still in Serejavo? Why are you not bitching about that? I know why. You idol Slick Willy did that. What about the 1 Million Hutu’s and Tutsi’s that were murdered in Ruwando while Bill, Madelan, and the UN did nothing? Why did you not protest during that genocide?

  • 2 March 2006, 00:56

    SWEET TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 15 March 2006, 02:25

    show your face there, then i’ll lock your ass up.

• 1 March 2006, 15:42

  Protesting outside the White House won’t do squat if the controlled media in this country won’t cover it. We need to recall anyone in Congress that has continually voted against the Constitution and get people with strong morals, integrity and character. That’s the only way we’ll see change. But with a morally-bankrupt society in this country, I fear the situation won’t get any better until people change.

  Also, I think you’re asking for a false sense of security to ask the UN to come save us. They have been huge violators of human rights whereever they get involved. This is a task best left to the American people alone. The American people are at fault for not making this change.

  It’s our home, our land, our job and our right to do this, not anyone else in this world.

  • 1 March 2006, 21:11

    why not run a contest for the 100 most extreme stories of where bush policies of secrecy have resulted in tragedy for the victims, these 100 could run with 335 other well qualified candidates in a consolidated grass roots party , if a door to door campaign getting notarized signatures that agree with the consolidated 435 candidates this would leave little room for diebold or any other electronic voting companies could disenfranchise us again, if the stories turned out extreme enough , you could run it like american idol and let the voting public determine who they think are the most extremes,this would garner instant national media for reform and redressing the undressable government that has seized power and ignored popular opinion of basic american morals of its constituents and has therefore deligitmized its ownself

  • 2 March 2006, 03:21

    Protest, sure, but OCCUPY?? Nonsense. Has ’Kent State" written all over it. Dont give them reason to kill you before you get your point across.

  • 2 March 2006, 04:13

    Exactly - a few months ago Cindy Sheehan was arrested for laying down on the sidewalk in front of the Whitehouse. If she had just set up camp across the street, they couldn’t have arrested her (without looking really stupid), but her laying down on the sidewalk gave them the reason.

    This keeps happening because Americans on the side of good are honest and kind, the bad guys keep using that against us. They play dirty, we don’t.

    Cindy can’t imagine that some of her best friends in the antiwar movement are agents (mk-ultra or otherwise) for the bad guys. "they’re so nice and loving.... how could they be bad?"

    (see The Manchurian Candidate- and think about the DC Sniper scare in 2002, just before the war vote- ie they have the technology.)

  • 2 March 2006, 18:03

    I think civil disobediance is necessary, but it has a time and a place. Be careful with plots like this hatched on the internet. Wouldn’t "storm the white house" be a great plan for the feds to have a paddy wagon waiting to round ’em up and drag ’em off to the internment camps? Be disobediant, but don’t be stupid. Don’t e-mail somebody your plans to break the law . . . duh. Don’t believe an organizer that you don’t know, or who is from an organization that is new. Be careful, be sane, but RESIST!

  • 3 March 2006, 02:48

    I agree Lets say there is 100,000 of you storming the White house. Half of you would be dead they will make up lies about the dead like they were al-Qaida. Gives them more of an excuse. You’d be helping there cause. Hey like you I want America back but have to play it safe. They will take your life away. look at the prisons they run. Also if you think the government doesn’t look at this site, better get off the drug your on. Hi Rumsfeld the murderer.

  • 5 March 2006, 16:32

    This revolt and eventual revolution will not be televised...

    Expect it - We don’t need the media anyway.

• 6 March 2006, 13:08

  While I might agree with _some_ of your ideals, your ideas leave much to be desired. Storming the White House would make you a ’clear and present danger’, and will result in many deaths.

  If you want to die to make a point... that this administration is corrupt and inept...a point that the Bush Administration seems to have little trouble making on its own... then have at it.

  I’ll be watching you die on CNN.

  If they cover it.